Six talking points from South Sydney Rabbitohs vs Manly Sea Eagles NRL semi-final

By Scott Pryde / Expert

The South Sydney Rabbitohs have kept their NRL season alive, winning a thrilling, high-scoring semi-final over the Manly Sea Eagles to book a trip to the nation’s capital next weekend. Here are my talking points from the match.

The refereeing was perfectly fine – if you have a problem, it’s with the rules
Regular readers of my work will know that I don’t love talking about the referees, but unfortunately, there were enough calls last night that received debate both ways for it to be a point.

You only have to look at our live blog, seeing it got over 650 comments, to know there were some calls which the wider masses weren’t seeing eye to eye on.

However, I’m not here to bag out the referees. That is simply not warranted.

If you have a gripe with the way this first semi-final was officiated, then it’s a gripe with the rule book.

The three sin bins were the main contentious points from the evening, but on each occasion, the referees and bunker ruled correctly.

In the case of Cody Walker, sure, he was retaliating to a mad bit of play from Jack Gosiewski where he pushed the head of a tackled Adam Doueihi into the ground, but open-palmed slaps have been banned, so he had to go. Gosiewski’s wasn’t technically a slap, so he stayed.

Again, bad look for the game when the instigator gets less of a penalty than the retaliatior, but they are the rules in this circumstance.

Then there was the sin-binning of Brad Parker, which was the clearest cut of the night. He had to go, sticking a leg out to get the better of James Roberts.

It absolutely wasn’t a penalty try given there were other Manly defenders in the vicinity, but Parker is looking at missing the opening week next year, given his prior tripping offence earlier this year.

The Jake Trbojevic incident may have been the most up in the air of the game after he was ruled to have pushed Dane Gagai over off the ball when he was running a support play for what could have been a Bunnies try.

Did Gagai take a dive? Yeah, almost certainly.

But does that matter in the slightest? Absolutely not. The rules are black and white for a reason, and after years of “discretion,” they were changed due to outrage. You simply can’t have it both ways, and as they are written right now, Trbojevic had to go for a sit down.

Sure, the referees miss other blocking plays, other pushing plays and little bits of everything, but the semi-final in this instance was refereed well, and anyone claiming otherwise is on the sour grapes train.

This isn’t me agreeing with the rules either. I’m in the camp that some of these rules either need to be clarified or looked at and possibly changed.

But hanging abuse on the officials for following the book they are asked to follow is madness, and shows just how bad refsfault culture has become in the NRL.

It might just be time for fans to grow up and stop thinking the world is out to get their team in each and every game.

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Souths must fix up their defence, or next week will be a bloodbath
This point was originally just going to be about the right edge of South Sydney, which was shredded multiple times during the first half, but it was so much more than that as the 80 minutes progressed.

While Adam Reynolds’ two missed tackles in the first half to allow tries to Brad Parker and Corey Waddell were in the same basket as inexcusable, their defence got worse the longer the game went on.

While the Sea Eagles were hardly poor in attack, they were their own worst enemy at times, dropping the footy, bombing tries and making life easy for the Rabbitohs whenever they needed possession and territory most, particularly during a woeful last 20 minutes of the contest.

The bottom line is that, if they come out next Friday night and defend like they did against Manly, the game will be over at halftime, so long as the Raiders are somewhere near their best.

And if the Raiders don’t get them, the Storm, Roosters or Eels will. You can not win a competition defending like Souths did last night.

Most of the time, 26 points will win you a game. It just so happened that Souths attack down the stretch was good enough to get them over the line, but they have a mountain of work to do, given the amount of points they have let in over the last two weeks.

The right edge, particularly now with likely injuries, is of particular concern, but it’s all over the park where Souths need an attitude and commitment check and change.

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Manly should be more than happy with their season
When the 2019 season started, you would have been hard-pressed to find anyone who thought Manly were going to finish the year in the top eight with finals footy on the ticket at the end of the season.

If you had of offered most fans the chance to spend time in the top four, beat Melbourne in Melbourne, finish sixth and then beat the Cronulla Sharks will missing your best player in Week 1 of the finals before falling in a competitive, brilliant and entertaining semi-final, they would have bitten your hand off.

That’s the stark reality of 2019 for the Sea Eagles. They have overachieved and then some under the watchful eye and mentorship of Des Hasler.

This team with an unheralded pack of forwards behind two big names, and a backline with two stars but little else, have come good to a level no one was expecting.

They have caused upsets, turned themselves into a premiership dark horse, and then contender, and if it wasn’t for the crucial injury to Tom Trbojevic at the wrong time of year, it would have been intriguing to have seen where they ended up.

No one is suggesting they would have won the competition, but this is a club who have defied the odds all year long in what may be one of the best seasons for a club we have seen this century based on pre-season expectations.

They entered the year with a cold, hard and uncertain future ahead. By the end of 2019, Manly leave with a bright future, a new stable of rookies and one of the best coaches in the game.

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Cameron Murray is now the forward’s leader at the Rabbitohs
There is now no doubting who the man leading the Rabbitobs forward pack is – and it’s no longer Slammin’ Sam Burgess.

He might be fairly small in stature, but there is no one you’d rather be fighting behind than lock Cameron Murray.

There were plenty of questions in the pre-season about whether he was cut out to start in the middle and be an 80-minute forward, but while Burgess has been off fighting his own public battles at the judiciary, Murray has just been getting the job done.

He went to another level in the semi-final against Manly, and while his superman-style try will be what draws the attention, it’s all the little things he does, the things which won’t be shown on highlights packages which make Murray the player he is.

From his quick play the balls, to his smart thinking with the ball in hand and try-saving tackles in the middle third, all at a high-quality while playing big minutes, the breakout star is someone any club would love to have.

It’s no surprise he was handed a sky blue jumper this year, and it’s a jersey he will have for many years to come if he can hold similar form.

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Can Moses Suli maintain his breakout form in 2020?
If there is one player who will have had nightmares overnight, it was Rabbitohs centre Dane Gagai.

Matched up against Moses Suli in the defensive job from hell, the in-form Sea Eagles centre trampled all over the Queensland and Australian representative to the point where Wayne Bennett was forced into a positional switch.

Heck, Suli was even able to slip over 50 metres from home in this semi-final and create a try out of nothing for Daly Cherry-Evans.

Suli is a player who has always had the potential to be among the best in his position, and the back end of 2019 has begun to show that potential.

It took a lot of guts from Manly to sign the youngster given the somewhat failed start to his career, but his speed, size and athleticism give him an edge few others have, and he is just starting to put that into practice.

At his best, Suli is incredibly hard to stop or run at, but there is still a lot between his best and worst games, and that’s something which must be fixed in 2020 if he wants to get to the top of the league.

Following the big Manly centre, who is clearly another success story for Des Hasler at this point, throughout next year could be one of the stories to watch, particularly as the club will now go in with expectations following their much better than expected 2019.

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Adam Reynolds’ kicking game South Sydney’s only hope of a premiership
Just a quick one to finish off this game, and no I’m not talking about his goalkicking, which needs some improvement after last night.

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But rather, the general play kicking of Reynolds is incredibly important to the Rabbitohs chances moving forward.

When he did it well for the Rabbitohs last night, he had a knack of putting them on the front foot, and from there, others could take over the game and the way South Sydney were playing.

He didn’t overplay his hand, pulled the strings nicely with a 40/20, try assist and a couple of forced drop outs, and has confirmed that, if the forwards do their job, Reynolds can, on most occasions, kick his side to victory, even in this cuthroat finals series.

Roarers, what were your thoughts on the game? Drop a comment below and let us know.

The Crowd Says:

2019-09-22T10:03:52+00:00

Yesjeff

Roar Rookie


Totally agree with the sinbinnings, unfortunately for Manly. In saying that more of a clear cut case no one seems to be talking about was Sam B. taking out Parker around the 7.30 minute mark on a Walker kick through. Definitely a binning offence if we're talking consistency. Manly youngsters, Jack & Parker also were ill disciplined which cost Manly field position & numbers.

2019-09-22T03:27:56+00:00

Insider

Roar Rookie


GC, thanks for the time you have taken to debate this I appreciate it, just for the record I don’t personally have a issue with what the refs did, I have an issue with the consistency though , I would like to add the uneven penalty count on Friday was not balanced nor reflective of south discipline, moving forward it would be easier to accept a even approach from the whistle no side is capable of 40mins without fault. If you follow my posts last week I stated any contact regardless to the head deserves a bin / send off that said the facial from Manlys forward was not acceptable, if I had the power I would give all attacks to head regardless 4 weeks , Manly very lucky

2019-09-22T02:50:51+00:00

Gold Coast Bunny

Roar Rookie


Well done then. You would be one of the few to bag the refs when their team gets the penalties so heavily in their favour. Having said that I don’t believe they cost you this game. The refs made decisions which impacted both teams ( I thought Gosiewski should have been binned also for head slam and Roberts should have been a penalty try) and these differences of opinions between people will always be there given we all have our own perceptions. We won’t change each other’s minds. You certainly should be proud of your team this year. A lot of people say they over achieved but I disagree. The previous years they under achieved and played closer to their potential this year.

2019-09-22T02:10:01+00:00

Insider

Roar Rookie


I did I always have been critical of all refs regardless of team playing and if you read my posts you wouldn’t have asked this twice, last night again one team in 40mins didn’t concede a single penalty that’s just improbable

2019-09-22T01:19:52+00:00

Gold Coast Bunny

Roar Rookie


So as to my question “did you bag the refs for the manly tigers game”? And more importantly did Des?

2019-09-22T00:49:16+00:00

chris

Guest


Oh well ...better luck next year.

2019-09-22T00:17:33+00:00

chris

Guest


Take a deep breath and carefully read the measured responses to your continual "in the modern game no team ...."

2019-09-22T00:10:02+00:00

chris

Guest


Gagai did not take a dive. Things are done with split second timing, at full speed. If a player UNFAIRLY unbalances you or impedes you even in the slightest, the whole move breaks down. It didnt matter if Gagai was pole axed or slightly impeded. It had the same affect. It was done unfairly so hence the sin bin.

2019-09-21T22:25:57+00:00

Gags

Guest


Sick of the refs having unwarranted and undue influence on the game. This is our game and they are ruining it. Swallow the whistle, go back to one ref, let the game go. Annersley berates a ref for no sin bin one week, the next week the refs ruin games with sin bins. It’s a farce but killing it for lovers of the game at the business end of the season.

2019-09-21T21:56:17+00:00

Insider

Roar Rookie


GC, I pride myself on fair regardless, I’d rather watch a contest than a miss match, don’t confuse my total dislike of Souths as bias that’s purely tribalism, that game to mention was a farce just like our 8/2 penalty count when we played Souths earlier this year

2019-09-21T21:04:07+00:00

Gold Coast Bunny

Roar Rookie


Only just noticed the above responses so sorry for the late reply. As I said in my response no it is not conceivable for a side not to give away a penalty in 40 mins of footy. I was merely pointing out the refs didn’t penalise either side for general infringements and that souths didnt commit the offences that manly we penalised for. However just wondering given that I didn’t read any comments about Manlys round 22 win over the tigers. Were you also up in arms about the the refs in this game given the penalty count was 8-2 in favour of Manly with the Tigers not receiving a penalty in the second half?

2019-09-21T12:56:07+00:00

tisme

Guest


as much as their defence,the bunnies have to fix their ball control & their resilience after scoring points & conceding possesion.four of the five manly tries were as a direct result of this. on another note,the bunnies should move sam back into the middle & bring jaydn su'a on the right side.

2019-09-21T11:00:32+00:00

John Erichsen

Roar Guru


Yep. Grabbed the jumper and yanked on it.

2019-09-21T10:50:23+00:00

Insider

Roar Rookie


Manly didn’t receive a penalty in second half , what game are you referring to? I’ll repeat myself just for you In the modern game is it conceivable a side could play 40 mins of footy and not concede a penalty

2019-09-21T10:42:45+00:00

Nate

Guest


Yeah, but this comment ignores that all 4 penalties given against Manly in the 2nd half were directly from dirty play or the missed drop out. Not one in general play. Had the Rabbitohs committed a couple of professional fouls, tackled a player in the air, and missed a drop out, the penalty count would have been exactly 4-4 in the 2nd half. Those penalties were directly on Manly, not the refs.

2019-09-21T10:42:26+00:00

buttery

Roar Rookie


Scott, no mention that Souths played with adversity, 3 players off with HIA's, forwards having to play in the backline, then with a few minutes to go there was only 1 player on the bench, but he couldn't go back on the field because he hadn't finished his HIA, that was one gutsy win.

2019-09-21T09:02:44+00:00

Big Daddy

Guest


Sutton was right in his decision just ask Annesely. To confirm it he will give a press conference on MONDAY outlining the decision complete with video and pointer. I can live with the decision but what disappoints me is having to watch Annesely explain it.

2019-09-21T08:43:33+00:00

Jason Hosken

Roar Guru


Haha. I had flashbacks too GCB...not to be. Enjoy next week mate, I reckon it’ll something special at a full house.

2019-09-21T08:28:56+00:00

Randy

Roar Rookie


Classic finals game, controversial penalties and all. Manly are going to be a force again in the coming years, you just can't keep the Sea Eagles down for long can you? Great turn out by their fans too, but where the hell have all the Souths fans gone? Souths are going to have to improve a lot to beat Canberra next week but if any coach can get them up its Bennett.

2019-09-21T08:09:15+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


But before their ankles clipped Jurbo grabbed Gagai’s jumper...that’s the point it’s an instant penalty and to my mind a professional foul and sin bin. The reason why Gagai fell over is irrelevant. If Jurbo tugs his jumper and Gagai keeps his feet, it’s still a penalty once Jurbo has grabbed his jumper It’s not a mistake at all

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