Why the hell do I have to support the Sydney team in the grand final?

By Ryan O'Connell / Expert

As the Sydney Roosters and Melbourne Storm played out a brutal, tough and entertaining preliminary final on Saturday night, much of the Harbour City breathed a large sigh of relief when the final siren eventually sounded, due to the realisation that a grand final between two interstate teams was an impossibility.

For many Sydneysiders, the thought of an NRL grand final without a Sydney team in it was just too much to contemplate, and the Chooks’ victory was as good as a victory for their own team.

I’ll be blunt: I find this line of thinking downright bizarre.

If my team – the Canterbury Bulldogs – isn’t in the grand final, I honestly could not care less where the premiers come from. Oh, and seeing as the Dogs haven’t won the comp since 2004, I’ve had plenty of experience in this department.

Although I find the thought of having a second favourite team the height of lunacy, I do recognise that certain years there may be a narrative you buy into that means you have a spot soft for one of the grand final combatants.

From fairytale finishes for magnificent careers, long-time hoodoos being broken, popular players deserving a premiership, massive underdogs, or simply pure loathing for the other team in the grand final, I can appreciate how certain angles or storylines can see you supporting a team that isn’t yours on the first Sunday of October.

What I can’t understand is the notion that you must get on the bandwagon of the Sydney team that’s in the grand final for the simple reason they are… from Sydney. How does that make any sense?

(Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

Perhaps it’s just me, but I hate every team that I don’t support.

Sure, there’s levels of hatred. For some teams it’s quite mild, and I merely hope they win the wooden spoon every season. For others, it’s a little more vitriolic and I hope the club catches leprosy and burns in hell for eternity, where Pitbull is on 24/7, and only non-alcoholic beers are on tap.

Either way, it’s hatred all the same.

I’m not sure why I’m meant to support the team from Sydney – that I’ve hated all season long – just because they reside in the same city as my team. What exactly is the logic here?

If anything, I actually hate the neighbouring teams even more, as I’m highly likely to know their fans, and it’s therefore highly likely that I’ll encounter them cheerfully celebrating a grand final win. No one needs that in their life.

The joy of winning a grand final is like sex. Fantastic, if it’s me. Otherwise, I don’t want to see it. Keep it behind closed doors, thank you. Or in this instance, far away and interstate.

This concept of us all banding together against the interstate interlopers isn’t confined to the NRL either. Every year, the same basic sentiment exists in the AFL when a non-Melbourne team makes the grand final, and it makes just as much sense south of the border as it does in Sydney.

I get why the NRL themselves, the broadcasters, and the media, would all prefer a Sydney team in the grand final. Sydney remains a heartland for rugby league, and it naturally drives up interest and ratings to have one (if not two) Sydney teams in the big dance. That makes complete rational, commercial, business sense.

Yes, I used the term “the big dance” just then to annoy people. It really does seem to set a lot of people off!

If, however, you tell me that the reason to support the Sydney side is more to do with the opposition, it begins to make a little more sense.

For example, given that Melbourne are guilty of salary-cap cheating, have contained some all-conquering Queensland players, allegedly introduced wrestling/grappling tactics into the game, and are captained by a player that the Sydney media have brainwashed everyone into hating, I can totally comprehend why a Sydney team playing them becomes an overwhelming sentimental favourite.

I don’t subscribe to that Storm strategy myself, but I do understand it.

There’s also the small point that Melbourne win, and win a lot. That’s always an important ingredient in hatred.

Yet this Sunday’s grand final has an interesting twist to the whole ‘support the Sydney team’ narrative.

The Sydney team in the final is the Roosters, and though I have no empirical evidence of this, I suspect they might be the most disliked of all the Sydney teams.

(Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

Manly, Cronulla and Canterbury may all take umbrage at that opinion, but the Roosters have one significant advantage over all of them: like Melbourne, they win. Which means they’re far from the loveable Sydney darlings that everyone will get behind by default.

To complicate matters further, their opposition on Sunday will be the Canberra Raiders, and while even the densest Sydneysider would know Canberra isn’t in Sydney, I’m willing to bet many think it is in NSW.

Technically, they’re right – the ACT is located within NSW. This deep, high-level, geographical analysis means many fans don’t truly consider the Raiders an interstate intruder.

Combine that with Canberra’s plucky underdog status, and the fact they haven’t won a premiership since way back in 1994, and the Green Machine will be riding a wave of goodwill against the Roosters, even in Sydney.

This just highlights how irrational the whole ‘support the Sydney team’ malarkey is.

Support whoever you want, but spare me the silliness of cheering on a team because they kind of, sort of, nearly, are located near your team.

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Grand final prediction
The physicality of the Roosters versus Storm preliminary final would have made many a person happy in the nation’s capital. The Chooks will be very sore this week, that’s for sure, and how they recover could well decide who wins the 2019 premiership.

Canberra can be pretty physical themselves – led by big, bad Josh Papalii – and one Raiders strategy may be to capitalise on the Roosters’ intense preliminary final by bashing them up again early.

To be honest, that’s most team’s strategy against most teams, so it’s not rocket science, but could it be enough for Canberra to upset the Roosters?

Sadly not.

The Raiders’ defence has been awesome all year, but it will need to be against a Roosters outfit that combines the methodical precision a Cooper Cronk-led team always has with the individual attacking brilliance of players like James Tedesco and Latrell Mitchell. It’s a lethal combination of smarts and talent, and the Roosters’ back line in full flight – with players running onto the ball at extreme pace – is rugby league poetry.

When you consider the Roosters are also great in defence and the Raiders can struggle in attack, I just think the Eastern Suburbs club will be too good, and deservedly win this year’s premiership.

Roosters by ten.

The Crowd Says:

2019-10-07T22:29:49+00:00

clipper

Roar Rookie


That's semantics, Nat - he stated there is little effect on crowd numbers when 2 non Sydney teams play - whereas, there is quite the effect. Selling out and not selling out are are quite different. Google is your friend for the other section.

2019-10-04T14:05:42+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


So you're using the "It's a tough man's game" argument as a defence for dirty play. Can you explain why the referee let Rod Reddy hit Price high throughout the grand final replay? I've never heard of John Andrew and I don't know of the Arthur Beetson incident but they don't change the fact that Ray Price put Mark Shulman out of the game with a broken back. It was dirty play even if you don't think that makes him a dirty player.

2019-10-04T11:06:36+00:00

Noosa Duck

Roar Rookie


I did not see the incident, so I cannot comment as to it being deliberate or accidental. However I did not consider that Ray was a dirty player. It was a tough era in the 60's & 70's and played a lot differently than it is to day. As I said John Andrew got a broken neck in a deliberate spear tackle and one Arthur Beetson belted a Manly player in a game and broke his jaw so badly he never played again so I suppose Arthur was a dirty player too...

2019-10-04T10:58:44+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


Yes in my opinion a player who drops his knees into a player laying on the ground is a dirty player. Do you find it hard to believe that Price would do such a thing? Do you think I'm making it up?

2019-10-04T10:23:57+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


1995 was the year Super League appeared and brought change leading to the NRL in 1999. The 1995 final series was a joke with the players who signed with the ARL clubs for $11Million also received favourable refereeing decisions as part of their deal. In the St-George V Canterbury-Bankstown game St-George lead for most of the 2ndhalf and stopped C-B from scoring many times until close to full-time when a desperate bulldog was allowed to run as a blocker in front of the ball carrier and take out the St-George defender. The referee who was an employee of the NSWRL ignored the obstruction and ruled a try. It was a Super League joke.

2019-10-04T06:03:13+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


Can't see where he said "always sell out" or 'sell out' at all for that matter and you cannot answer the other about the non-Vic GF so show me again where he was wrong?

2019-10-04T02:49:12+00:00

Noosa Duck

Roar Rookie


In your opinion ...

2019-10-04T02:43:35+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


Ray Price was a great player but a dirty player as his knees in the back ending the playing career of Mark Shulman shows. It has nothing to do with the fact that Ray Price was a neighbour of yours. It's a Rugby League discussion group and this is about Price a rugby league player not Price your neighbour.

2019-10-03T03:48:24+00:00

clipper

Roar Rookie


Yes, Nat, he was wrong on 2 counts. The NRL doesn't always sell out for the GF and the MCG was being refurbished so could not sell 100,000 tickets. I think they sold all that was available, but I'm not sure.

2019-10-03T02:48:51+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


Was he wrong? Did the MCG sell out all available tickets? Not every statement is a code war. Any comment on the topic at hand - ever, or is it always just code war garbage?

2019-10-02T23:54:05+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


Yep – but: 1. I’m not sure the dragon’s fans will be much of an issue unless I’m doing a post match pub crawl to Kogarah 2. I think they officially changed their name to remove that confusion. They used to be the dragon slayers but may have changed when informed they would have to then have to slay Reg Gasnier

2019-10-02T10:59:14+00:00

Gauss

Roar Rookie


Didn't St George kill a dragon?

2019-10-02T05:31:35+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


If that’s the way you want to interpret the game, I guess it can mean anything...

2019-10-02T04:39:07+00:00

WarHorse

Roar Rookie


I was so disgusted with the refereeing that day I have not watched a replay of that game since. I remember immediately wanting to go out and hire a cement truck. I will try and review the replay one day, but at this point I will only agree to disagree with you on those points. Could not scoring a try simply mean the ref allowed the dogs to be offside and in the faces of the opposition all game?

2019-10-02T03:09:52+00:00

Timmuh

Roar Guru


"Every year, the same basic sentiment exists in the AFL when a non-Melbourne team makes the grand final, and it makes just as much sense south of the border as it does in Sydney." Only in the media. Most Victorians will back the non-Victorian team most of the time. They might struggle a bit more when its Adelaide or West Coast, but generally would take any other non-Vic side unless there is a reason (usually a premiership drought). Maybe its stronger in Sydney because RL hasn't killed State of Origin, instead thrives on it. There is a state mentality mid-season, and perhaps for many people that plays a part in backing the Sydney (or at least NSW) team. Or is it just the Daily Telegraph, etc, knowing their sales are higher if a local team wins; and actual people don't buy into it (the same as in Melbourne, the Feral-Scum was all for Richmond unlike everybody outside the media).

2019-10-02T02:50:12+00:00

clipper

Roar Rookie


If reality upsets you so much, don't read my posts, Nat - just setting the record straight.

2019-10-02T02:16:35+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


Seriously, do you just haunt the league threads waiting for any mention of AFL? Are you so precious about your game or just a closet league lover and this is your only way to contribute?

2019-10-02T01:51:01+00:00

farkurnell

Roar Rookie


Bears got nothin .. Go the Jets

2019-10-02T01:33:45+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


The Dogs dominated them that day though. Even Fatty in the commentary was saying the Dogs were too good. The Dymock pass for Price’s try was questionable but there was no forward pass in the other try. Matt Ryan also had a fair try disallowed. Manly got more penalties than the Dogs through the game - the count evened up at the end when the Dogs were steamrolling Manly. The most damning thing is Manly didn’t score a try on the day!!! I’m not sure you can claim ‘we wuz robbed’ when you can’t score.

2019-10-02T00:37:57+00:00

Larry1950

Guest


Yet a heap of people I know, mostly sydneysiders, concur that the 2015 GF between a Brisbane based team and Townsville based team played in Sydney was the best rugby league spectacle in 20 years?

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