The plan that will boost rugby in the Pacific

By NorthernPom / Roar Pro

This week, New Zealand Rugby chairman Brent Impey spoke with Radio New Zealand about the performances of Fiji, Samoa and Tonga at this year’s World Cup.

Impey is of the opinion that these countries would have been stronger had players such as Charles Piutau and Steven Luatua had been allowed to play for their country of origin despite having previously represented New Zealand in multiple Test matches.

I agree with this idea. Other than the fact that I’m guessing he meant heritage rather than origin, the concept is clearly sensible and is the general way of thinking around the world. Players should be allowed to represent a tier-two nation in line with their heritage even if they have already represented a tier-one nation. A mandatory stand down period should be in place – at least two full years – and this arrangement should simply be a one-way relationship.

No player should be able to flip-flop between tier-one and tier-two countries on a whim, and a player should not be allowed to represent a country, like Tonga, and then go on to pull on a France shirt, for example.

So that is where myself and Impey agree.

Where Impey diverges in to the ludicrous is when he begins to suggest that the rest of the world – primarily those in the northern hemisphere – hold players ransom from representing their country on the international stage.

I am not naive enough to think that this does not happen. It clearly does and you just have to look to the French leagues to see a number of players who have been unavailable to represent one of the Pacific Island nations in the World Cup.

(Photo by Jason McCawley/Getty Images)

But to suggest that it is a tactical ploy by the Northern Hemisphere unions is, frankly, ridiculous. He should consider the fact that clubs in England and France – the two leagues most flush with cash – are in no way owned by their respective unions. Bath Rugby, for example, could pick a full team of players from Latvia if they so wished and there couldn’t be any punishment dealt to them. Bonus money would be withheld but there are alternative ways to reclaim this.

The Nations League idea that was put forward earlier this year was being championed, particularly by NZR, as the beacon of hope to save rugby across the globe. It was supposed to provide those developing nations with a chance to play tier-one countries and benefit from some much-needed funds. But that’s not strictly true, is it?

Funds would have been evenly distributed, yes, but if I was in charge of Wales, Ireland, Scotland or England then I would argue that it actually punishes those countries that built stadia to become a country’s home of rugby, which has then generated increased revenue.

In New Zealand, for example, All Blacks Tests are scattered across the country, meaning that multiple high quality stadia need to be maintained simultaneously, increasing expenditure. The case is different for both South Africa and Australia given the sheer size of the respective countries so this does not apply.

Another issue I have is that New Zealand don’t exactly travel to play against tier-two nations. Yes, they hosted Tonga prior to the World Cup, they have played in the USA and the occasional Super Rugby match is played in Samoa, but how often have they toured Georgia, Romania or Italy? Do they host these nations in June and July? Have they looked to tour the Americas with games against USA, Canada, Uruguay and Chile? Didn’t think so.

The NZ Maori have but they don’t quite have the same pulling power, despite NZR’s claims.

The solution for the global game is for World Rugby to make games against tier-two nations mandatory during each international window. For example if England are coming to Australia for a series, then they must also play Samoa in at least one game. When New Zealand travel north in November they must play against Spain. Not in Spain, but against them.

Playing in a country is not the same as playing against that country. And seeing as NZR are so virtuous, they should have no complaints with the finances of this plan.

In addition, the number of international games should be limited to strictly being within the given windows. No extra games for England, Wales or New Zealand in November as a bonus. No extra match played in Japan to vacuum up some yen. This would then mean that countries have to take the matches against the tier-two nations seriously as they would know that they have limited game time in each World Cup cycle.

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The third change is domestic. The inclusion of a Pacific Island nation in Super Rugby, privately funded or not, is a must. Tongan and Samoan teams should be included in the NPC in the same way that the Drua have within the NRC. And NZR should not threaten players with withdrawing Super Rugby contracts should a player choose to represent their country of origin or heritage. Sevu Reece, please stand.

It may not be the best solution. It is better than the current situation, and it is also better than New Zealand Rugby pointing the finger at the rest of the world, blaming them for not developing at a faster rate. Rugby union is a small sport. We love it and we want it to grow but this will take time.

So, New Zealand Rugby. Are you willing to help us, or hinder us?

The Crowd Says:

2019-10-18T15:38:53+00:00

Richard

Guest


Just to be annoying... Frank Bunce? he admits he has no Samoan heritage. Nuiean I think?

2019-10-18T12:46:14+00:00

Die hard

Roar Rookie


terrance with a little t for your own reasons. Your somewhat insular and cringeworthy logic is breathtaking. If you told my Brisbane born Wallaby fanatic of a son he was a kiwi to his face he would ‘snot you one’ then bounce you out the door and up the road. Remove the tree sized chip from your shoulder so you can fit into a cold shower. Do you not realise how pathetically jealous your snipes are seen as. You are forever reaching for evidence that someone other than yourself is hard done and forgetting that they are individuals that can and do make their own choices. Are you going to be the one to tell Ardie Savea he can’t play for the All Blacks but instead can only play for Samoa. A fine country but one that he has little association with.

2019-10-18T06:36:40+00:00

ChrisG

Roar Rookie


So I'm a scot because my grandparents came from there?

2019-10-17T23:32:24+00:00

Atlas

Roar Rookie


Is this the same Angus Ta'avao who was eligible for the Wallabies by virtue of his Australian mother? Add smiley face here.

2019-10-17T19:08:17+00:00

terrence

Roar Rookie


no..both parents of angus taavao, ardie savea and nepo laulala are samoans who migrated to nz..lienart brown's dad and uncles all played for manu samoa..and sonny bill's dad was a middle-weight boxing champ in samoa in the 1960s..they're a big family in apia..

2019-10-17T19:02:50+00:00

max power

Guest


that would also severely weaken tonga and samoa as they are the ones who benefit from the grand parent rule

2019-10-17T18:59:24+00:00

max power

Guest


kiwis with a samoan grand parent

2019-10-17T10:47:14+00:00

Joe King

Guest


Don't stop advocating for it. It's the real solution. NZ has the players, Australia has the market

2019-10-17T10:00:08+00:00

The Late News

Roar Rookie


Yep...complex. No doubt. But the conversation is important.

2019-10-17T09:55:55+00:00

The Late News

Roar Rookie


Ken that's an interesting idea.

2019-10-17T09:09:27+00:00

Atlas

Roar Rookie


80k bought a one-man report from accountant Jeremy Curragh. It went nowhere: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/105044525/new-zealand-govt-report-into-pacific-island-super-rugby-team-suggest-usa-link 80k just a drop of the $400 million NZ provides in development spending to the Pacific Islands annually.

2019-10-17T08:23:07+00:00

Cadfael

Roar Guru


Scotland?

2019-10-17T07:59:48+00:00

jimbo

Roar Rookie


until recent years held their own against most tier one teams...

2019-10-17T06:53:00+00:00

Kevin

Roar Rookie


I have also been advocating this for a long time. SR should be like the IPL, each franchise can bid for players in a pool, (effectively what happens in NZ atm), but should also be allowed to have any other SANZAAR player in the squad, including any PI player, without them being ‘taken’ from their own international team. Also any player in Eng or France club should be allowed to be released for internationals without penalty, maybe WR has to subsidise the insurance? As for a global season, the first thing would be to move the July tests to late Sept/October so they run at same time as RWC in calendar. Move the November tests forward as well, so there is a single international window of 7/8 weeks in mid Sept/Oct. solves problems of SR break and also allows club season in Europe to run non stop as well, (they would start at the end of the international window), although they could play a ‘warm up event’ such as the Premiership Cup in this window.

2019-10-17T04:36:02+00:00

Timbo (L)

Roar Guru


It is a large problem to Chew on. I have a couple of Mods, I don't think that the top 4 Tier 1 (Tier 1a) nations should be under any obligation to play the bottom 12-16 teams (Tier 2b) - Call it the Spoils of War. The Logic cascades, Tier 1b only plays as low as Tier 2. Call it a sliding relegation system. Could be done on rankings points as well. If the team can't improve their rankings with a win against a team, then they don't have to play. I think the gap is 10 rankings points. Compulsory 1 low tier game per test window. GRR might solve the Pacifica problem, but at this point, it is still Hypothetical. The N in NPC and NRC should discourage inclusion, Pacifica should have their own comp. It comes down to geography. Have a tri-nations with the winner of each comp playing 1 home and 1 away.

2019-10-17T03:58:32+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


I see where this is coming from, but it does need to be taken with a bit of caution. NZ go on their spring tour to Europe each November. They take a compliment of about 27-28 players to play 4 high intensity matches. Now, if they followed your example and played Spain, then there's simply no way they are going to put out a full strength team against the Spanish. That exposes NZ players to the risk of an injury before the big games and it's also exceptionally dangerous on the Spanish. They would get physically pummeled. Which means NZ are going to be asked to take upwards of 40 people to Europe. It's too expensive. A PI team in super rugby is a good idea. Don't know where they will play out of though...again, there are cost issues at play. It might work in Fiji, but Tonga and Samoa are just too small.

2019-10-17T03:57:16+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


The experiment failed because it wasn't given enough support. NZ and Australia instead chose to cherry pick the talent away from the three islands rather than boost them.

2019-10-17T03:05:02+00:00

Paulo

Roar Rookie


We trained and bred most of the PI players, It’s not our fault they went to play club rugby in the NH, blame the paymasters in NH :silly:

2019-10-17T02:07:54+00:00

ChrisG

Roar Rookie


How many did play for a NZ team, and then moved "North" (for more money) as they didn't make a NZ squad?

2019-10-17T02:05:59+00:00

terrence

Roar Rookie


where you're born is beyond your control mate..they're samoans..

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