Why it's time to ditch percentage from the AFL ladder

By Ruairidh MacDonald / Roar Rookie

This article is another contribution to the annual state-of-the-game hand-wringing festival, so if you’re over that already, I totally understand and you’re free to go.

As for everyone else, who’s up for some unscientific musing?

Here we go.

My basic idea: ditch percentage and use only ‘points for’ to separate teams on the ladder. Before getting to the reasons, though, I’ll start with some assumptions.

I should first say that I mostly agree with the claim that the overall style of play in the last few years of AFL has not been as flowing or exciting as it could be. I’m saying that not as a comparison with how it was played in some supposed glory years – mostly because I’m too young to have seen all that – but as a comparison with itself.

We all know modern footy is not actually 100 per cent congested 30-man scrums or boringly predictable long kicks down the line – that in fact there are still passages of play that are scintillating in the speed of the ball movement and engrossing in the battle of the one-on-one contests.

So the issue is not that fast, exciting footy is impossible; it’s just that it’s not the structural norm and we only get it when the structure is temporarily broken, either by a fresh young team with new tactics, which will probably get figured out before the end of the season, or in the dying stages of a match when everyone’s too knackered to keep to their positions.

(Daniel Kalisz/Getty Images)

So the aim shouldn’t be to recreate dreams or nostalgia of the past but to point to the brief moments we already have and say: make that the majority, make that the structural norm.

The obvious barrier to that is the coaches. However much AFL House wants to tinker with the rules, the coaches will always rule the structure of the play itself and, as we’ve seen time and time again, they will work around the rules for their own ends.

That’s completely fair enough -they’re not paid to make the game look good; they’re paid to have their team finish as high up the ladder as possible. Nothing new here. Coaches dictate the play of the game and coaches choose certain styles based on their lines of own pressures, so fiddle with the coaches lines of pressure in order to effectively fiddle with the play of the game.

I described the coaches’ main pressure as ‘finishing high up the ladder’ and not ‘winning games’ for good reason. With the current set-up coaches can’t focus solely on winning matches; they need to win matches in a certain way, to improve the team’s percentage.

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Given how often teams end up on the same number of wins, percentage becomes crucial for determining one’s ladder position. This can determine if you host or travel to a final (last year’s top three all finished on the same number of wins) or if you even get into the finals at all (Melbourne missed out by 0.5 per cent in 2017).

Playing with percentage in mind requires coaches to balance both attack and defence, whereas I think I’m safe in assuming most fans want more attack than defence. I’m guessing most people would prefer 110-100 (percentage 110 per cent) matches to be the norm instead of 75-50 (percentage 150 per cent), but coaches will always structure their team and tactics to go for the second option.

Instead of focusing entirely on scoring goals, this inevitably produces a style of play whereby scoring goals is only prioritised to the extent it doesn’t damage one’s defence. This is exactly what we’ve seen in the past few weeks, with coaches adopting styles that aim to restrict the other team first and only then score goals (if possible) that aren’t too risky and that favour structure over freedom.

We can do away with all of this by using points scored instead of percentage as a ladder separator. Replace the incentive to produce safe and balanced footy with an incentive to score. Obviously defence will still be important – coaches still need to make sure the opposition doesn’t score more than them, but that’s all. They no longer need to win by a certain amount; they just need to win.

Defence no longer becomes a burden on coaches by demanding equal attention as the attack; it becomes secondary to attack. It’s still there but not warping the structures.

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Having put defence to the back seat, I think we’d see coaches adopt much more attacking tactics to both win games and boost their points tally. It wouldn’t be safe for them to aim for final scores of about 70-80; they’d need to work out ways to get closer to 100 or more on a regular basis. Defenders and the overall idea of defence would still be important, but I’m sure we’d see more goals scored and therefore more ball movement to allow this.

It would also be a more understandable metric than percentage to keep an eye on as the season progresses, easily checking if your team has enough points or how much they need to score in the final few rounds to sneak in. Incidentally, that Melbourne team of 2017 would have made the finals with their superior tally over West Coast. Sorry, Demons.

There are a couple of nice effects I think this could produce, including variety of tactics and variety throughout the season. By fiddling only with elements outside the game itself we’re not dictating, imposing on or restricting the way the game can be played, as some rule changes have done (6x6x6, ahem). Coaches can find their own way to score goals, which could produce a great variety of more unique team tactics and therefore more interest when they clash.

It could produce a variety in game styles not only across clubs but also across the season. Knowing that they need to rack up more points than their competitors, coaches will come up with different methods to accumulate them. Do they use hyper-attacking tactics in the early rounds to bank points and coast through the later rounds with more defensive tactics or do they focus on winning games first and only crank up the scoring at the end if they need to?

This would really reward flexibility in both the coaches and the players and create more interest as these differing storylines clash throughout the season.

(Photo by Graham Denholm/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

There are some potential faults people might find with this overall idea, three of which I think can be dealt with and one of which is pretty valid.

First, what about teams lower on the ladder, the no-hopers? Teams who know they’re not going to make the finals at all? Precise ladder positions aren’t important to them, so this incentive wouldn’t work on them. Well, my response is that at the start of the season not many teams would truly nominate themselves as no-hopers. In any given year I’d say the number of clubs who genuinely think they have absolutely no hope of making the finals would be about four or maybe five? That’s 13 or 14 clubs who have designs on the finals and need to seriously consider the way they play to get there. Heck, even when two-thirds of the season is done there are still ten or even 11 teams still in with a chance.

With all these teams playing in a definitively attacking style and looking to score, say, at least 100 points a game, I’m pretty sure the other teams would not be able to ignore it and would need to buy into it to some degree.

What about defensive-minded coaches? The Ross Lyons of the world, the ones who truly believe the best way to win games is to prioritise defence over attack. Would this get rid of the art of defence and lead to manic sloppy attack at any costs?

Again, I think this will be fine. The ultimate priority is still to win games – that still comes before points. So coaches can still focus primarily on winning games, using defensive tactics if they want, and hope that they get high enough up the ladder that their low points column doesn’t hurt them. Fremantle 2013-15 is a perfect example of this.

Next, what about finals? The ladder incentive goes out the window come finals time, so could we see a four-week relapse where the styles snap back to dour rolling mauls? I think that’s nothing to worry about for two reasons. One, finals bring their own unique tension through their sudden-death nature that home-and-away games simply don’t have. Finals don’t need high scores to be exciting.

Second, I doubt teams would spend an entire season adapting to a certain tactic only to ditch it and hope a completely new and untested one will get them through the most important matches of the season. I think it’s unlikely.

Finally, there is a flaw that could well be valid. What if some coaches flip it on its head and instead of trying to increase their points tally as much as possible try to limit everyone else’s by playing very defensive footy? I could definitely see that happening, especially with the more defensive coaches out there. Perhaps they’ll find they scupper themselves by not boosting their own tally and watching as everyone else climbs high above in the other matches, who knows.

I’m sure there are many more potential faults with this idea, so please crack in and point them out. I’d love to hear them all.

Before finishing I want to say that this isn’t my original idea. I remember glancing at it a couple of years ago and thinking it was a good idea. I have no idea who first proposed it, but I reckon it’s a good time to have a proper think about something like this.

The Crowd Says:

2020-07-21T11:01:38+00:00

malevu

Roar Rookie


Like any new system it will always be hamstrung by the inequitable AFL fixture. In a normal 22 round season your proposal would be greatly affected by who you play twice. If a team was fortunate to be given a soft draw with return games against the cellar dwellers, they could get an unfair boost to their "points for". Whilst the same obviously applies to traditional percentage it would be even more pronounced under your proposal. Sorry, but it's a no from me.

2020-07-16T23:01:05+00:00

Bruno

Guest


I don't know, this doesn't seem like as much of an issue as the article implies. Unlike the 3rd man up rule, it doesn't feel like coaches and teams are deliberately playing in a certain way to benefit off the non-existence of a rule. I personally feel as though the ladder is fine. Let's look at the ladder now Team GP Pts % W L D PF PA 1 Port Adelaide 6 20 164.6 5 1 0 456 277 3 Geelong Cats 7 16 116.7 4 3 0 502 430 In a hypothetical scenario where the points for and against remain like this but both teams had the same record, Port have done extremely well to limit their opponents to an average of around 46 points per game, while Geelong on the other hand have let through almost double (though with an extra game played.) It just feels a bit unfair to discredit and basically nullify the importance of defence to this extent. As it currently works, percentage is a great way to factor in both offence and defence rather than your proposal to just look at PF. I appreciate the concept though.

2020-07-16T05:59:14+00:00

JamesH

Roar Guru


I spitballed this points-for idea last year in one of those articles that seem to crop up from time to time about limiting interchanges, and this exact issue was raised by someone in response. Having since had more time to think about it, differences in venue could potentially be balanced out mathematically by giving each venue a modifier based on the average team score at the venue in the preceding five years. Marvel would have a modifier 1 modifier. This isn't a perfect solution of course, as it doesn't account for weather or night vs day, and it would be of limited use at venues where not much footy gets played (e.g. Alice Springs). You'd also have a lot of punters struggling to comprehend how it works. Something to ponder, perhaps. Your general point is spot on, though. No matter how many rule tweaks the AFL makes, coaches won't shift their approach to the game until there is some incentive to encourage freer, higher scoring footy. The carrot works better than the stick.

2020-07-15T11:07:28+00:00

Naughty's Headband

Roar Rookie


Yes they create a different percentage but the team with the biggest points difference will still have the bigger percentage

2020-07-15T10:34:30+00:00

Seymorebutts

Guest


Interesting, all sports have some sort of points differential to split teams that finish on equal points. How about this? One point for each quarter you have won, plus 4 bonus points. So if you thrash a side, and win all 4 quarters, you get 8 points. Conversely, if you win by one point in a thriller, the losing team can still get some reward in points. It does seem unfair that a team that wins 3/4 of a footy game can go home completely empty handed when they other team end up winning with only one good quarter ;-)

2020-07-15T08:07:12+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


I know what you meant

2020-07-15T07:27:59+00:00

DTM

Guest


Interesting numbers. I would be surprised if Optus didn't get closer to the average after a few more years. This goes to show that there is not really that much difference between grounds. Maybe to even things up a little more, the AFL could allocate an extra night game (or two) to the highest scoring grounds of the previous season.

2020-07-15T06:58:54+00:00

Titch

Guest


Instead of percentage why not award a team a goal every time they have 300 handballs a game. Another goal at 400 then 500?

2020-07-15T06:02:23+00:00

Rich_daddy

Roar Guru


Interesting concept but has some flaws. One is difference is weather/ground conditions which has already been raised and other other is would probably lead to more score blow outs and tanking. A 100 point flogging is proportionally likely to be far more damaging to a team's percentage as opposed to a "Points For" system. This could encourage coaches to bench the top players when the game is lost or rest them entirely from matches if they remain in front of clubs on the same number of wins but ahead on "Point For". Percentage keeps teams more honest. People understandably loath low scoring matches, but remember when alot of goals are kicked it is often only one team that is kicking them.

2020-07-15T05:26:55+00:00

David

Roar Rookie


That argument can be used in reverse way to current system too. Percentage rewards winning by low scores over winning by higher scores. So basically, today’s system rewards more wet-weather matches, where that kind of results are more likely to happen. Extra point for kicking certain amount of goals or scoring a minimum of points can also be argued to be unfair due to weather.

2020-07-15T05:18:09+00:00

David

Roar Rookie


An unbalanced fixture is a flaw by itself, regardless how you sort the ladder. Even the competition points are flawed by an unbalanced fixture. It was one of the weird things I discovered when I was introduced to AFL/NRL competitions

2020-07-15T03:29:11+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


Yeah, I get the theory - and in many ways support it. It would completely close off any avenue for Ross Lyon to get a future coaching job which is a good thing. But there does need to be some fairness attached. Personally, I'm a fan of bonus points for kicking 16 goals or more per match. Encourages open scoring and preserves the fairness of using percentage, in fact, it will encourage percentage boosting. Instead of putting the cue in the rack by the 4th quarter, you'll go hard all match.

AUTHOR

2020-07-15T03:05:46+00:00

Ruairidh MacDonald

Roar Rookie


So I just looked up the average points for each currently used stadium, here they are: Perth: 82.1 (small sample size) – Adelaide: 85.6 – Kardinia: 87.9 – Syd Showground: 88.2 – MCG: 89.7 – Carrara: 89.9 – Docklands: 96 – Gabba: 96.4 – SCG: 97.8 So of course you’re right there’s variation, with 3 stadiums in particular having definitively higher scores than the others. However playing at those venues a lot won’t automatically make you a better team or win you matches, which is still the most important metric. The idea is just that this dangling carrot of offensive points will influence coaches’ tactics, not ultimately decide the ladder

2020-07-15T01:37:30+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Faster increases congestion. The congestion stops when the ump penalizes someone who jumps on a fallen player to lock the ball in. It is alway 'in the back'. Penalize that and there is no congestion. Goals will be scored if frees are given for that and for chopping the arms in marking duels. The rules are there. Umpired correctly, the skills are on display again. Don't change the game. Get rid of Covid-19 so teams can resume full contact training and then the skills will improve.

AUTHOR

2020-07-15T01:27:18+00:00

Ruairidh MacDonald

Roar Rookie


I don't use twitter, so I haven't seen what you're referring to, but as I said in the article I know it's not my original idea. I just like it and think it would have some positive effects I agree though that defence is important and that tight, low-scoring games can be just as entertaining as high-scoring ones. I'm really focused more on the style of play, getting it faster and less congested, and I think encouraging more scoring would help with that. So the goal-scoring is just a means to an end

2020-07-15T00:56:43+00:00

GGG

Roar Rookie


Correct - those clubs playing under the roof more often or in sunnier parts of the country would be advantaged.

2020-07-15T00:35:28+00:00

DTM

Guest


I don't think anyone is arguing that this is "fairer" than the percentage system. The argument is about entertainment and refocusing football on attack rather than defence. At the moment, football is all about defence and this idea would encourage coaches and players to attack in circumstances where they currently defend. If you look back over the last 5 seasons there would be only s few minor changes to the AFL ladder. Of course this is applying a rule in hindsight and if the rule applied, the results might have been different. Currently, the best way to maximise your percentage is to stop the opposition from scoring. Under this system, teams will still play for the win first, then consider the points for. However, even when teams are well behind in the game with no hope of winning, they are still encouraged to attack by this system.

2020-07-15T00:16:20+00:00

DTM

Guest


So let's play Richmond and Collingwood on a Sunday afternoon and St Kilda vs Gold Coast on Friday night? Given also that the fixtures (normally) are set before the season starts, you would have to reward/penalise clubs for last year's performance. No consideration for new coaches or players who would change the team's game plan completely from one year to the next. Your stupid idea would cost the AFL millions over a season and is unlikely to get the desired result. Ruairidh's idea is much, much better.

2020-07-15T00:06:55+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


It's not actually. Basic maths. 1000-800 is a PD of 200, and 125%. 600-400 is the same PD of 200, but percentage of 150%.

2020-07-14T23:55:32+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Scores vary each week, each game. There is nothing wrong with footy this season. If some games are ugly its because teams have had to train in groups instead of full contact whole groups. It's like watching a band playing without rehearsal. No thinkering with stage or admission price will improve the performance; only full practice will. Re Rossy. Not fanboy love...just admiration for someone who was achieving what he...and the club...set out to do. The inexperienced Peter Bell convinced the board to blink.

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