Seven talking points from NRL Round 12

By Scott Pryde / Expert

Another week is in the books, with impressive contenders all picking up victories and some very high-scoring games making for an entertaining weekend. Here are my talking points from Round 12.

The Panthers are the real deal
In a game that had a Manly ambush written all over it, it was instead the Panthers who extended their winning streak to seven games.

Brookvale is a hard place to play at the best of times, but Penrith took to the old ground like a duck to water. And yes, Manly didn’t have Tom Trbojevic or a full 17 for most of the game, but their defence normally holds strong.

It was no chance of doing that with the Panthers attack in full flight.

Apisai Koroisau’s return was a big boost, and to run on 42 points shows this team is clicking on all cylinders with no sign of slowing down.

Nathan Cleary continues to settle into his role, while possibly the most underrated forward pack in the game continues to eat their opposition alive each and every week.

To keep their run of form going despite all the distractions surrounding the competition makes it even more impressive for the men from the foot of the mountains, and it would appear the only way they will be slowed down is if they have peaked too early.

With Ivan Cleary at the helm, this team moving into the beginning of a premiership window look unbeatable.

(Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

The Rabbitohs must play free-flowing footy
At 16-0 down within the first 15 minutes and Adam Reynolds sitting on the bench, it was looking like an uphill battle for the Rabbitohs to come back and beat the Dragons on Thursday.

But it was almost as if it was exactly what they needed to throw the shackles off and play free-flowing, attacking rugby league.

Dragons fans won’t agree, but it was a joy to watch from a neutral perspective as Latrell Mitchell found significant form, Alex Johnston continued to put himself in the shop window for a new contract, and Cody Walker took over the team.

Walker was the star of the show, playing his best game in two years. He dominated on the left side, scoring a double and setting up others, proving dangerous against the, at times, flaky Dragons defence.

Walker’s performance wouldn’t have been possible without the forwards doing their job. The Rabbitohs have always looked at their best when Damien Cook and Walker have space to work in and combine. With Reynolds out and a forward pack who won the battle, that’s exactly what they were able to do.

It was the first time in a significant period the duo were able to rekindle that pace to their game, and Souths looked all the better for it.

The Rabbitohs sit just inside the top eight at the end of Round 12, but if they want to play finals footy, the blueprint for how they must play was clear for all to see on Thursday.

(Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Payne Haas must be the future of the Broncos
Another week, and another loss for the Broncos. It’s a broken record at this point.

This was a different kind of loss, though. A game where they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory against the Sharks, who once again proved beyond all reasonable doubt that their attack with Shaun Johnson in form is hard to stop.

There might have been some positive signs for the Broncos, but ultimately another loss plunges the struggling side closer to a full-scale rebuild.

That rebuild must be centred around giant representative forward Payne Haas. The club might have lost David Fifita, but Haas is the future.

He turned in another remarkable performance in the front row on Friday, playing 66 minutes for 217 metres from 18 runs with 111 of them post-contact, to go with 43 tackles at almost 92 per cent efficiency.

It’s not even a surprise to see. Despite Brisbane’s forwards meekly surrendering for much of the season and their backs providing nothing, Haas has been the only shining light.

While he is on contract with the Broncos until the end of 2024, he is a future club captain, and the man to take them forward from what has been a shambles of a 2020 season, in which they have lost eight of their last nine.

(Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

Put him on a different team and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck could be as good as James Tedesco
If you were to ask most rugby league fans who the best player in the game is right now, the immediate answer would be Sydney Roosters fullback James Tedesco.

While there is no doubt that, based on the form he has maintained over the last two seasons, Teddy is the NRL’s top player, Warriors fullback Roger Tuivasa-Sheck gave a reminder that he should be in the conversation during the Warriors’ shock win over the Tigers.

There are plenty of negatives to take out of it for Wests, but it’s hard to stop Tuivasa-Sheck when he is in form. The fullback was a constant threat as he made 279 metres, seven tackle busts, provided a couple of offloads and had plenty of involvement in the Kiwis’ attack.

Amidst all the gloom and doom for the club, their captain always seems to be the bright spot.

He won’t drag his club into the top eight this year, but you’d think if Tuivasa-Sheck was playing just about anywhere else, with other talent around him like Tedesco has, he may well be challenging the Roosters custodian for the mantle.

(Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

The Eels are on cruise control, and it’ll bite them
The middle of the season always tends to be when top teams can get by not playing at their best. The Roosters haven’t been, probably for six weeks, but it’s a trend which is starting to hit the Eels.

The difference between the top teams is that the Roosters have been here before. They know exactly how to get out of a rut.

It’s not a major cause for concern yet, but the Eels haven’t played a complete game of footy in a month.

In that time, they have scratched past the Knights and Tigers, lost to the Sea Eagles without Tom Trbojevic, and today only just held out the fast-finishing Bulldogs.

They aren’t playing badly, but they just aren’t at the level which had a majority of pundits inserting them as one of the teams to challenge for a spot on grand final day.

While they have had their own share of injuries, habits can be hard to break, particularly when the standard of opposition isn’t the greatest.

That’s exactly what stands in the next fortnight for Parramatta, with the Sharks and Dragons their next two opponents. After that, it’s Melbourne.

Brad Arthur’s side desperately need to find their best form again before that match, or the doors could be blown off in spectacular fashion. Premiership teams have shown in the past the ability to get out of lean periods, and we are about to find out whether the blue and gold have it.

(Photo by Daniel Pockett/Getty Images)

Newcastle’s premiership window isn’t open… yet
The Knights aren’t far away, and the rapid improvement they have shown this year has been special, but they aren’t a premiership contender yet.

Sunday afternoon’s game against Melbourne was a litmus test, particularly after some indifferent form over the last month which included losses to the Bulldogs and Eels.

They failed.

It wasn’t just the loss which stings, but the manner of the defeat. They were never really in the game despite the illusion the scoreboard provided at times. Yes, injuries played their part, but they did too for Melbourne, with Cameron Smith and Jahrome Hughes both going down.

The difference in class between Melbourne, who could go on another deep finals run, and the Knights, was obvious.

This shouldn’t take anything away from what the club has achieved this year, and they will certainly be better for a run through the finals, but being able to challenge the Roosters, Storm, Panthers or whichever other contender sticks their hand up looks a little way off.

The Knights will have a premiership window, with their forwards all better for this season, and creative combinations gelling. It just won’t be this year.

(Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Reece Robson can become one of the game’s best hookers
It’s rare to talk so positively about so many teams who were defeated, but there are individual players like Haas who deserve it.

Another is Reece Robson, the Cowboys hooker who went to the club seeking first-grade playing time behind Jake Granville and has since turned into a consistent starter.

Not just a consistent starter, but an excellent one, who is quickly living up to all the high-potential calls which accompanied his rise to first grade when in the Dragons system.

The 22-year-old has proven to be rock solid in defence, only failing to make 40 tackles twice in the eight games he has started, missing just 11 in that time, while his attack has brought something to the listless Cowboys.

Like his teammates, it’s not consistent, but Robson always seems to be a threat near the line, with five tries, a pair of assists and a handful more involvements to his name.

Robson has cemented his hold on the number nine jersey, and while it’s not good news for Granville, it is for Cowboys fans.

The Crowd Says:

2020-08-03T10:23:59+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


Jack was simply awful - just wish he would pass sometimes instead of trying to bust the line every time he gets the ball. Jack just needs to add a bit of variety so he's not so predicable. He used to be good with those sweeping plays on the left hand side when he played at FB but we haven't seen enough of that from 5/8 this season.

2020-08-03T10:16:54+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


Yeah - seems to be the way it works now - used to be two or three penalties for each side in the first 20 minutes - unless the ref took a shine to one side in particular like the Storm and gave them 3 or 4 in a row - and then evened up the count in the second half when the result was already decided.

2020-08-03T08:55:37+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


Well since the club seems to be happy with the last two games I guess 3 wins out of 13 games is a great return.

2020-08-03T08:45:03+00:00

Matt

Guest


Can’t wait for finals where Fisher-Harris will play the part of Piranha ,and Smith’s dicky shoulder with play, Flesh wound.

2020-08-03T06:20:59+00:00

JOHN ALLAN

Guest


You need to explain to her that people who know nothing about the game succeed in tipping comps while "knowledgeable" followers of the game struggle. I regularly finish mid table. I pick upsets however pick the wrong ones.

2020-08-03T05:09:08+00:00

Dirk Diggler

Roar Rookie


great read Scott although not sure many people would consider the Panthers pack underrated this year. I'd have them on level pegging with the Roosters/Eels with the Storm a fraction under these. They are the real deal but as we know its' peaking at the right time and playing a defence first mentality in finals that will make the difference. The Eels need to find another gear, and th Roosters could be in real trouble if they get any more serious injuries

2020-08-03T02:55:35+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


But other than that we are doing fine :laughing:

2020-08-03T02:47:26+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


THey were saying grade 1 AC joint. So that's "normally" 1-2 weeks. so knowing SMith he'll play next week and for the next 8 seasons

2020-08-03T02:41:01+00:00

Matt

Guest


Talking point #1 for me is the Smith shoulder - will it be 2/3 weeks or will it be more? Parra and Roosters to play in that period and who knows, might even drop them out off the top 4.

2020-08-03T02:40:02+00:00

Nat

Roar Rookie


I don't like it either but I'm in a family comp and losing to my 12yo niece.

2020-08-03T02:39:16+00:00

Nat

Roar Rookie


No mate, your biggest talking point is the crowd. We are discussing the game/s. Did you watch any games? Were you one of the half dozen who tuned into union on the weekend?

2020-08-03T02:34:05+00:00

Nat

Roar Rookie


I'm not as harsh as some of the stories I've read. It was their best, most sustained performance since resumption there's no getting around the ability to find a way to lose. That last 10mins - what can you say. Any number of basic errors, not just mistakes but decision making dragged them into a position to win. I'll happily acknowledge that trying to stop Uele or Talakai from that close is very tough but why were they standing on the line waiting? Especially Talakia, there was a good 5 seconds between PTB and him receiving it and yet Haas was caught on the line. Being better doesn't mean being good otherwise it rewards mediocrity.

2020-08-03T01:54:36+00:00

Nick Symonds

Guest


BIGGEST TALKING POINT: The commentators for the match between the Storm and the Knights said the crowd was only 6,000 to comply with social distancing. Well it was packed full and was well over that. If the hill was under 50 percent capacity as the stadium officials said, then regular capacity must mean that they have to stand on each others shoulders to watch the match normally. It must be the first time ever that NRL crowd counters have lied to say that a crowd was smaller than what it actually was! #2020

2020-08-03T01:51:36+00:00

souvalis

Roar Rookie


How can we say the Broncos aren’t trying or blame the coach for that ? Was Staggs not trying the other night ? Panga’s bothersome offloads look lethargic to you ? Boyd and Milf turned the clock back 4 years only to inevitably get beaten by that pass, main man Haas not handling Talakai, Offenhauge not giving it to Uele and Wade Graham being on the other team.

2020-08-03T01:40:09+00:00

kk

Roar Pro


Bingo! Nat. Add that to the list.

2020-08-03T01:28:49+00:00

Nat

Roar Rookie


I was close to that sideline. Had Fleg caught him, I would have been reminding Ronaldo for the next 35mins. :laughing:

2020-08-03T01:24:53+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


I don't tip though.

2020-08-03T01:24:25+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


I don't think so.

2020-08-03T01:20:12+00:00

Nat

Roar Rookie


Aside from those ISP teams that have direct links to BRL it's a little hard to follow who went where. Has Linc Port signed with Melbourne? He was running around for Carina.

2020-08-03T01:14:07+00:00

souvalis

Roar Rookie


Flegler had no right to have the audacity to turn and chase one of the fastest guys in the Sharks club and humiliate him, just not on from a 17 stone prop..there was no try celebration from Ronaldo after that one for some reason or other.

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