Different year, same story

By Chip / Roar Guru

Another season has ended ignominiously for Collingwood, and supporter angst is still at record levels.

However, for the sake of perspective, how does the loss to Geelong last week compare with some of the finals defeats over the last 50 years?

Before considering this it should be noted that Collingwood’s success rate in grand finals since 1970 has been 18 per cent, and for finals 48 per cent. Compare that with 71 per cent and 62 per cent respectively for the benchmark team of the ages, Hawthorn.

In order from worst to least worst of the Magpies’ finals performances, I suggest the following.

1. 1977 grand final number one versus North Melbourne
Contrary to the popular belief that the 1970 grand final was the worst of all time, I regard this one as the most hideous. Throwing away a 27-point lead at three-quarter time (and having the first shot on goal in the last quarter) is, in crude mathematical terms, even worse than 44 points up at halftime in 1970. This game in 1977 seems to fly under the radar in terms of the pantheon of great losses simply because it led to a draw. It is right up there however because Collingwood had the week off, thrived on the mentorship of a highly successful premiership coach in Tom Hafey during the season, while their older core of players seemed revitalised. North Melbourne had to take the long road to the big one, and were woefully inaccurate on the day.

2. 1970 grand final versus Carlton
Of course, this one has been heavily examined and gone into folklore, with Ron Barassi’s “handball” speech at halftime reaching mythical, messianic proportions.

3. 1973 preliminary final versus Richmond
This game is the heir apparent to the 1970 debacle, with a halftime lead of six goals tossed away in the remaining quarters under the onslaught of Richmond’s robust style of play, an inspired Royce Hart from off the bench, and Kevin Bartlett creating havoc. Sadly, this was the debut game for Rene Kink, who all things considered played well.

4. 1984 preliminary final versus Essendon
In terms of sheer numbers, this one takes the cake. After a reasonably bright start by Collingwood Essendon went on a rampage to the tune of a 133-point winning margin. To say that Collingwood resembled witches hats would indeed be an insult to the latter.

5. 2020 semi-final versus Geelong
The very fresh memories of this debacle has it right up there among the worst. Simply, everything that could go wrong did: a poor start, lack of system, confidence and run, apparent disinterest, game plan that came unstuck if was adhered to at all. But to be fair, the mental and physical aftermath of the previous week’s heroics against the Eagles appeared to play a role.

(Photo by Paul Kane/Getty Images)

6. 2003 grand final versus Brisbane
In some quarters, the Magpies were favourites for this game, having disposed of Brisbane in the qualifying final a few weeks earlier. However, the Anthony Rocca-less Pies, missing their vice-captain through suspension, folded under the physical pressure and skill of the Lions. The ungainly attempt by the current North Melbourne coach to evade a tackle, and then managing to slip and stumble in abject fashion, epitomised the day.

7. 2019 preliminary final versus GWS
Everything was set up for a second consecutive grand final appearance. A week off after a convincing win against Geelong a fortnight earlier, home ground advantage, and the significantly depleted GWS outfit should have seen a Magpies victory. However, under sullen skies, Collingwood stumbled badly, with the real question being what could have been? Fifteen minutes of a form revival in the last quarter was almost enough to pinch the game.

8. 1981 grand final versus Carlton
Comfortably among the top teams in the home-and-away season, this performance was reminiscent of so many others. A good lead during the third quarter was tossed away, followed by goal-less last quarter. Yet again in a big game Carlton had Collingwood cornered. Late Carlton goals in the third quarter pegged back a 21-point lead.

9. 1980 grand final versus Richmond
This game ranks not as badly as others. An environmentally-friendly Collingwood team made up of a great number of recycled players from other teams was simply no match against a powerful and physically menacing Richmond team boasting an awesome forward line and stars on all lines.

10. 2018 grand final versus West Coast
This game was a classic lost opportunity. A five-goal early lead (and two-goal lead early in the last quarter) on home turf with massive crowd support was not enough to get Collingwood over the line. The frenetic last quarter in which the ball was mostly in the Eagles’ forward line was like a dripping tap – slowly, slowly Collingwood’s lead ebbed away, culminating in that famous Jeremy McGovern mark, and infamous free kick not paid against Willie Rioli.

(Photo by Cameron Spencer/AFL Media/Getty Images)

Although these heartbreaking losses span five decades, there have been some common themes.

• SMS: Small-man syndrome. How many times has Collingwood been tormented by smaller forwards in other colours?
• Poor recruitment: No one can suggest that Bernie Quinlan, whom Tom Hafey was keen on, would not have made a difference in the losses in 1979 and 1981. When selective recruitment based on specific needs was employed, hey presto, the 1990 and 2010 flags materialised.
• Player ill discipline: Phil Carman’s suspension in 1977 before the grand final and to a lesser extent Rocca in 2003.
• Game plan at odds with successful teams: For example, Collingwood’s short-passing game style seems less equipped when compared with the long-striding and kicking game of Richmond in the 1970s, while in recent years the game plan has faltered when confronted with finals pressure.

As they say, there is always next year!

The Crowd Says:

2020-10-17T22:43:21+00:00

ChrisH

Roar Rookie


Looks like Pete has some roses coming his way! Good luck next week Yattuzi. Should be a cracker. Hoping the Cats can get the job done.

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2020-10-17T19:11:46+00:00

Chip

Roar Guru


Thanks Sven

2020-10-17T14:17:32+00:00

sven

Roar Rookie


great article chip, lots of interesting facts & analysis, & very well written

2020-10-17T08:32:37+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


No, just a question mate. I tend to stay out of the blog when Pies playing big games. I’ll probably stay out and just watch the footy.

2020-10-17T08:25:17+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


Is that what you think of me?

2020-10-17T08:20:28+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Good luck mate. As you know I admire the Cats for putting yourselves out there. I think you’ll be playing the Tigers in an epic Grand Final. You staying out of the roar blog for the game?

2020-10-17T08:12:40+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


I am nervous and I suspect all the Cats fans are too. Nobody around to talk about it. I am hoping it is not as close as last night. I would take the 27 and send you a bunch of Roses.

2020-10-17T08:08:56+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


I tipped the Cats by 27 points Yattz. My boys are doing better than me in finals tipping though and all think the Lions in a close one. You were confident against the Pies and proven right. How you feeling about this one? Tip and margin?

2020-10-17T08:01:36+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


Do you rate the Cats tonight?

2020-10-17T07:51:27+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Every side has hard luck stories in finals, especially if you include preliminaries. Take the Cats, I recall a couple of the GFs we lost included close preliminary wins against the Cats. We lost the 2011 GF but only just made it in a very close win against the Hawks in the preliminary. Even a Swans flag was only possible thanks to Nick Davis single handedly beating Geelong in the final qtr of a knockout final, another one that got away from the Cats. Then they had 89 of course, 92, 94, 95…and of course they were 20 points up at three qtr time in the 2013 preliminary won by Hawthorn by under a goal. They still have had three flags this century and are in another preliminary. Keep putting yourself out there.

2020-10-17T07:38:30+00:00

Leo

Guest


Very well written Chip, this brings back some awful memories.

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2020-10-17T05:29:40+00:00

Chip

Roar Guru


Peter. Hi. Agree but hoping for a better win loss ratio in a GF

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2020-10-17T05:28:47+00:00

Chip

Roar Guru


Many thanks Mooty. Yes given what GWS served up the next week definitely a missed opportunity for the Pies

2020-10-17T04:40:17+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


My personal opinion is to prefer to not make Grand Finals in case you lose them is the most defeatist, awful way to live your life. You get a hell of a ride along the way to a GF. I’d rather make ten in a row and lose every one than be thinking of draft picks by round 12 every year and watching other sides play finals. The Pies are incredibly frustrating but you have to be in it to win it. Life isn’t a spectator sport.

2020-10-17T03:31:51+00:00

Fred Bear

Guest


So long as Eddie Everywhere is in charge of the Pies, long may this misadventure continue....

AUTHOR

2020-10-17T02:41:53+00:00

Chip

Roar Guru


Chris, thanks. Agree and the last quarter when the eagles went forward time and again and kept missing was like a slow dripping tap

2020-10-17T02:40:57+00:00

Mooty

Roar Rookie


Your analysis of the 2019 preliminary final is the best I’ve read. It puts it further into perspective when you consider how badly GWS performed the following week. IMO Collingwood were already cooked going into that game, and GWS were playing on adrenaline, which from the look of it they ran out of.

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2020-10-17T02:39:21+00:00

Chip

Roar Guru


Kane thanks too true

AUTHOR

2020-10-17T02:38:57+00:00

Chip

Roar Guru


Jimmy Thanks possibly better to make it I guess

2020-10-17T02:00:34+00:00

Kane

Roar Rookie


I believe if you lose a grand final but then don't make another one in the next 2-3 years then it's a waste. If you win it then you have a bit of an excuse to not make a follow up granny.

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