Six talking points from the NRL preliminary finals

By Scott Pryde / Expert

The top two teams have booked their spots in the NRL grand final, with the week off doing wonders. Here are my talking points from the preliminary finals.

Nathan Cleary’s kicking game holds the key next week
The Panthers are going to the grand final for the first time since 2003.

I don’t think that is a sentence anyone was expecting to write before the first ball was kicking in anger all the way back in March, but in mid-October, that is where we sit.

It has been a chaotic season, and while some will shout asterisk to anyone who could listen, the fact the Panthers have overcome everything to make the grand final on the back of 17 straight victories proves beyond all reasonable doubt they deserve to be there.

Whether they can challenge the Storm next week is another question altogether, and frankly, not a very easy one to answer.

You see, the Storm are just a different beast (more on this in a bit). They have beaten almost everyone, and when it comes to big games, there is no team you’d want to avoid more.

They just find a way to step up. Craig Bellamy gets them firing, Cameron Smith manages the game on-field and they roll to a plan.

Most of these Panthers players have never played in an NRL grand final either apart or together (although many have played in junior finals with the Panthers), they simply don’t have the big-game experience which next Sunday will be.

If they are going to win, then a good start will be critical. They can’t be conceding the first try, particularly early like they did against Souths on Saturday night. The Storm won’t be as easy to peg back.

But not only is getting a good start critical, Nathan Cleary’s kicking game will also be of utmost importance. He has a huge role to play in the territorial battle, and if the forwards hold their own, then Cleary’s impact could well decide the game as it could be argued it has done many times this year.

(Photo by Brett Hemmings/Getty Images)

Melbourne are the ultimate NRL club
When it comes to a record of success, it doesn’t get any better than what the Storm have dished up over the last decade and beyond.

Under Craig Bellamy, the club from a non-rugby league heartland have found a way to turn themselves into the best, full stop.

Sure, people will point at back-to-back premierships for the Roosters as something special over the last two years and granted it is. It hasn’t been done for more than two decades.

But the Storm are just something else. This will be their ninth grand final appearance since 2006. In a salary-capped league (and yes, I know what’s coming), that is a remarkable achievement. Even taking it after the scandal of 2010, this is their fifth grand final in the last ten years.

In fact, 2010 is the only year they haven’t made the finals since 2003. That is success like we have never seen before, and not just in the NRL, but almost all of Australian sport. The only record better is the Perth Wildcats in the NBL, who have made the semi-finals 35 years on the hop.

It puts the Storm in elite company, and the structure they have built means that more often than not, it is done with a couple of superstars to go with players they have bought who were outcasts or battlers at other clubs.

Their squad is full of them, to go with the players who they have brought their own ranks, using a talent scouting system that goes far and wide, and it has to given Melbourne isn’t a rugby league hotspot.

Already they have potentially the next Cooper Cronk on the books in Noah Griffiths to go with the youngsters you have already seen this year running around and steering a ship which just doesn’t look like it’ll ever sink.

If Cameron Smith goes, it’ll be another hurdle for the club to overcome, but based on all the evidence available, you’d be a brave man to say they aren’t going to be able to do it.

(Photo by Ian Hitchcock/Getty Images)

Preliminary final? Wayne Bennett overachieves again
Craig Bellamy might have built his very own dynasty in a rugby league outpost, but Wayne Bennett, who is one of the all-time great coaches, continues to impress.

It doesn’t matter where Bennett goes, he makes his clubs better than they should.

Mid-season, the chance of the Rabbitohs making a run in the finals looked next to nothing. Heck, making the finals was going to be a stretch at certain points.

But, in true Bennett fashion, his team hit their stride at the right time of year, then made a charge into the finals where they knocked over a few teams, before pushing the minor premiers, unbeaten for four months, all the way to the finish line.

That deserves recognition. He somehow found a way to get the cardinal and myrtle firing, and it may not have been enough for a premiership, but this man is a master at squeezing every drop of potential out of all of his players.

You only need to look at his career to know what he is capable of. While the argument has been made the game has passed him by, even recently, where he took the Broncos to a grand final in 2015, the Knights to a preliminary final during his stay there and the Dragons to a premiership in 2010, he still has what it takes to be an elite coach.

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Why would Cameron Smith retire?
This is the topic which has divided the rugby league universe. Is Cameron Smith selfish for refusing to announce a decision? Is he selfish for even thinking about playing on? Or should he be able to do what he wants?

After all, the future immortal has given 430 games of service to the competition and is undoubtedly one of the greatest players in history. Not just in his on-field smarts, but his longevity and the tenaciousness with which he plays the game.

Sure, he divides rugby league audiences over some of the methods he uses, but anyone who doesn’t have at the very least begrudging respect for the Storm captain is just pushing an agenda.

And if you look at some of the plays he made on Friday night, you’d swear he wasn’t a day over 20, still trying to impress and keep his spot for the following week.

Of course, Smith’s spot is his for as long as he wants it. The only reason he doesn’t play representative footy anymore is that he retired, and it’ll be the same in giving up his club spot.

He is an unreal talent, an almost once-in-a-generation player and someone who is still performing at close to the top of his game. While the wait goes on for him to slow down, the fact he may hold back or potentially cost the Storm Brandon Smith and Harry Grant is a concern to fans, but Smith of the Cameron variety has the right to do what he wants to do.

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Penrith’s outside backs win them games
The role of fullbacks and wingers in the modern game has changed beyond belief. No longer are they simply try-scorers. Now, they must be good defensively, find ridiculous ways to score, set up tries and run the ball back from kicks like madmen.

In this new era of rugby league, where momentum is so hard to gain, but so, so important to have, the outside backs play a monstrous role in the ascendency of the contest.

More often than not, Penrith’s have been close to perfect this year, and they were again on Saturday.

While Dylan Edwards and Brian To’o had a try apiece, add Josh Mansour in and the trio ran for a staggering 604 metres between them, with 123 of them kick return metres and another 180 of them being post-contact metres.

They are staggering stats to be shared between three players, who have the potential to flip a game on its head in a matter of minutes.

Compare that to South Sydney’s efforts where the back three trio of Corey Allan, Alex Johnston and Jaxson Paulo could only manage 358 metres with 74 kick return and 77 post-contact between them, and you start to get an idea of why the Panthers were able to dominate the territory and momentum battle.

It’s so, so important, and might just have been the difference at Homebush.

Canberra’s premiership window isn’t shut yet
The Raiders were never supposed to go as far as they did this year.

When Josh Hodgson went down in Round 9, the grand finalists of last year were written off by a vast majority of pundits, this one included in the list of their doubters.

More injuries followed for the green machine, and like the Rabbitohs, there were times when they looked like they’d be merely making up the numbers.

They ended up doing anything other than that, with a gallant run to the preliminary finals before falling in the impossible challenge of playing a refreshed Melbourne Storm side after a physical win over the Roosters seven days prior.

(Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

The fact both Melbourne and Penrith came away with victories will prove the week off was the most important factor in this year’s finals series, but Ricky Stuart’s men can hold their heads high.

It was a performance which may not have been their best, and the doors were blown off early but with the only substantial loss being John Bateman, and Josh Hodgson to return to the side, a side which is now stacked with another year of experience and handy back-up options all over the place, the Raiders may be better balanced than ever before to make a charge at the crown in what should be a slowly getting back to normal 2021 season.

The side have a hard-hitting forward pack who can challenge most in the competition, and a backline which, when it gets going, is a thing of beauty to watch, led by the ball-running wizard Jack Wighton.

Again, he may not have gotten to show that in the preliminary final, but if the Raiders get a decent hand with injuries next year, there is no reason they won’t be once again challenging for the title.

The Crowd Says:

2020-10-21T12:56:02+00:00

WarHorse

Roar Rookie


Can’t agree. Canberra were woeful against storm. Timid in defence and flat in attack. Not the usual Canberra. Plus everything storm touched turned to gold that night. I don’t think storm will have it the same way on Sunday.

2020-10-21T12:44:20+00:00

WarHorse

Roar Rookie


Does his goal kicking help justify his spot?

2020-10-21T08:06:06+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Bellamy has had a top 2 or 3 roster pretty much his entire whole career, so has Robinson By your rationale there’s nothing special about their records either

2020-10-20T22:40:52+00:00

Nat

Roar Rookie


So by "experts", are you referring to Laurie Daley? The article that is posted on the Manly fans forum? They finished 8th the year before and with the return of Snake, most punters had them around the bottom of the 8th - as your $22 would suggest. Because they went on to win it, that was an over achievement? In 2015, many experts had both NQ and Broncos 8th -9th (SMH, NRL.COM, LU) The same with the 2013 Knights. Those two teams finished their respective seasons with a GF and GF qualifier. Is that not an over achievement by your own standards? https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2015-the-experts-predictions-for-where-each-team-will-finish-20150302-13sqoa.html

2020-10-20T09:22:58+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


All he had to do to win the 2019 grand final was pass the ball

2020-10-20T09:18:43+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Baby steps

2020-10-20T07:20:22+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


In that case I don't know why you are arguing because I've always said his results are largely in line with his rosters give or take the odd year of over or under.

2020-10-20T07:12:31+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


So when all the experts believe Manly will probably miss the eight in 11 but go on to win the title we'll just ignore that and pretend you are always correct? You were the odd one out in 2011 were you who predicted a Manly win?

2020-10-20T07:01:53+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


The question is why do so many keep saying Bennett over achieves all the time and always mention the Knights . In several years there he over achieved once by missing the GF. In his first year he was expected to make the 8 and possibly challenge for the crown but finished 12th. Manly in 11 were expected to miss the 8 by most and Bennett's Saints were clear favorites at $6 while Manly were $22. Going thru the finals series and smashing teams on your way to winning the title when you aren't meant to be in the 8 is overachieving in my books and it just proves my point. When has Bennett ever won a title when he's meant to miss the 8? The big overachievers this year are the Pennies , Titans and Warriors.

2020-10-20T04:38:10+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Plus eight of the 2011 starting lineup in the GF were in the starting lineup for the biggest grand final win of all time just three years earlier He doesn’t know what he’s writing one post to the next

2020-10-20T04:34:02+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Don’t worry about calling them over achievements then Just call them achievements Even without winning a GF in the last decade, his teams have made the semis 8/10 seasons. He’s made the grand final once, the prelim final four times and week 2 twice Forget whether it’s an OVER achievement, those results, short of a premiership, stack up better than all but a couple of coaches

2020-10-20T03:59:09+00:00

Nat

Roar Rookie


Why do you keep referring to 2011 as an example of over achieving? 10/13 had rep'd for either State or Country before that season.

2020-10-20T01:43:47+00:00

Forty Twenty

Roar Rookie


Hasler in 11 is a very good example of a coach overachieving yet when Bennett makes the finals at the Knights with a strong roster he assembled it's touted a some sort of miracle. I don't need to list all the other examples of coaches over achieving hugely because I can't be bothered , it's obvious to any open minded fan. Bennetts so called over achievements get plenty of air time when his rivals do much better you almost never hear about it again. It's a simple point and there is no need to expand.

2020-10-19T21:17:43+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


You’re not called a lightweight because you have a different opinion...you’re called a lightweight because you can’t substantiate your opinion The sum total of your response to “Bennett is a very good rugby league coach” seems to be 1) Bellamy is better 2) some bloke wrote a paper a decade ago that says Bellamy is better and 3) what about Hasler in 2011

2020-10-19T20:28:26+00:00

Rob

Guest


After 2006 GF Storm lost David Kidwell (NZ captain to Eels), Chris Walker, Nathan Friend, Scott Hill. Over the following years the Storm lost players to salary cap which benefited a lot of other clubs success. Some won Premierships at other clubs? Players like Inglis (Broncos but then Souths), Filou (Broncos), Mallony (Warriors to Roosters), Cronk (Roosters), Jeremy Smith (Dragons), Ben Cross, Brett White, Matt King , Adam Blair (Broncos), Antonio Kafusi, Tagatease (Sharks), Dallas Johnson, Hoffman. Without Milford poached from Raiders the Broncos don't make 2015 GF. You're delusional about Broncos success being pure and Storm being salary cap related IMO Andrew Gee.

2020-10-19T17:18:45+00:00

Flashagogo

Roar Rookie


In rugby union the prop would feign injury. You are on point Panthers need to find touch to slow the game right down in that first 10-20min. Also think about moving ball 2 or 3 passes from ruck to avoid Storm 3 man tackle and get faster play the balls. The alternative would be too much to change in one week. - Agressive defence line to cut down Storm space (you know the way Storm does) - Dont be put on back when tackled

2020-10-19T11:57:41+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


Fine mate, well perhaps you can direct me to where the actual paper is located these days. It's conspicuously missing from his list of published papers, it was super important so it must be kept somewhere (and please don't direct me to an SMH article published on April 1st).

2020-10-19T08:39:56+00:00

Cameron Warner

Roar Rookie


I think Souths might have a bit more talent than you're giving them credit for, or maybe it's easy to focus on the talent on the sideline (Latrell, Jimmy Roberts) But they've still got a great team, I think a prelim isn't over or underachieving it's pretty much on the money. I think not going further than a prelim next year would be an underachievement.

2020-10-19T08:32:36+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


Are you suggesting that Steveng is actually Peter Psaltis?

2020-10-19T08:30:51+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


Don’t worry Sam, [INSERT TEAM NAME HERE] will get their act together one day.

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