Six talking points from Super Rugby AU and Aotearoa

By Oliver Matthews / Expert

This weekend was a real combination of good, bad and ugly rugby. There were redemption stories, unlikely wins and some really boring play.

Amongst it all there was, as always, plenty to talk about, so let’s get stuck in….

Tahs better but not because of Penney’s absence
Let’s be clear – the Tahs were better this weekend but a good 40 minutes in the second half in no way justifies the firing of Rob Penney.

It would be interesting to hear what was said in the sheds at halftime and you wouldn’t be surprised if it was something along the lines of “We owe this to Rob, lads.”

But the improved performance from the NSW side is not evidence that they are better off without Penney. Instead it shows how much they’ve missed Jake Gordon over the opening five matches. With their captain and scrumhalf back in action, the Tahs had much more direction and control about them.

Their set piece was better, their running game was a bit more direct although they did try and go wide too early in their sets but they looked better, and their discipline was good too.

Their defence is still an issue with 20 per cent of their tackles missed and 20 turnovers is always going to make things difficult, but the Tahs are so much better with some experience and leadership in a key position.

Makes you wonder what they could achieve with both Penney and Gordon?!

Side point – will we see Michael Cheika back at the Tahs sometime soon?
There’s been plenty of debate about who should and who will get the gig as coach of the NSW Waratahs. Michael Cheika made it very clear that he wouldn’t be applying for the job. So clear in fact that you wonder whether he might be protesting a bit too much!

Conspiracy theorists might read between the lines and feel that his comments that he didn’t think it was the right time for him to come back with the new Wallabies set up still fresh, might be interpreted as “If you can assure me that Rennie and Johnson will be gone, then I’m in and I’ll get you that trophy you want so badly.”

Maybe Cheika is thinking ahead a bit and feels that whoever takes on the job first is doomed to fail as the big issues that haunt the Tahs will still be very present. Maybe he’s thinking about a year or so down the line when another new coach is needed and he can return as the saviour of NSW and Australian rugby.

He’s baaaaack (maybe). (Dan Mullan/Getty Images)

Highlanders find a very unusual blueprint to defeat the Crusaders
You’ve got to love Tony Brown. In the week that his team is facing the unbeatable Crusaders and staring down the wooden spoon, he makes the decision to ban six of his players, including stars Josh Ioane and Tomkinson.

His reward? A very rare win over the reigning champs and a place in club history.

The players that earned the win on Friday managed to execute a plan that many clubs have failed to time after time with one key aspect being that they held onto the ball well. The Crusaders have an excellent back three and talented ball players all over the park – but these guys struggle to be an attacking threat if they don’t have the ball to attack with in the first place. The Highlanders were able to dominate possession and they turned this into points.

Yes they scored three tries which is great but they also took shots at goal frequently, knowing the importance of keeping the scoreboard moving.

You might also assume that to beat the Crusaders you have to have a near perfect defence but in fact, the Highlanders missed over 20per cent of their tackles. But while they might have missed tackles, their defence was effective at two things – they made it really hard for the Crusaders to settle and find any rhythm by making sure the ball carrier was always under pressure, and they forced the champs to make an unusual number of errors – 22 by the end of the game.

So other teams take notice – the key to beating the Crusaders is to make a strong statement about club culture in the lead up to the game and then batsman the men in red and black with unrelenting pressure for 80 minutes. Simple!

Richie Mo’unga. (Photo by Kai Schwoerer/Getty Images)

So many stars, so little entertainment!
The Hurricanes match up against the Blues was a really difficult game to watch. There were so many stars on show and yet the game stuttered and stumbled along with an infuriating lack of creativity or attacking rugby on display.

At one point you couldn’t blame a couple of the wingers for just having a sit down, so small was the chance that they’d actually get to see the ball any time soon.

The Blues will be relieved that they picked up the win but they would be kidding themselves if they thought that they had got their season back on track with a performance like that.

Their set piece was poor – losing two out of six scrums and two out of eight line outs really isn’t good enough – and their ball retention was poor.

So many aimless passes were thrown and it’s not surprising that they turned the ball over 14 times in the game – worrying when they only had the ball for 44 per cent of the time.

The Canes though weren’t much better. They had a lot of ball and plenty of territory but created so so little time after time. Last week we were celebrating the impressive performance from Jordie Barrett where he scored all 30 points in the win over the Highlanders.

This week, fans should be concerned that in 160 minutes of rugby, the Hurricanes score sheet reads:

Jordie Barrett – 42 points
Rest of the entire Hurricanes squad – five points

The common factor? Both sides are without top quality halves. Whilst Japanese rugby is enjoying seeing the talents of TJ and Beauden, the Canes and Blues are really missing some direction and pace from their #9s and #10s.

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Speaking of #9s, Dave Rennie must be happy
If a lack of scrumhalf talent is causing issues for Kiwi clubs, Super Rugby AU is seeing an exciting competition between its top four scrum halves.

This weekend saw Jake Gordon, Nic White, Tate McDermott and Joe Powell all playing and it was great to see the different styles out there as they all fight for a Wallabies starting place against France this July.

Both White and McDermott have caught the eye this year but as we all know, things are much easier when your pack is dominant and going forwards. Gordon has sadly been missing with injury for the past few rounds but he made a big difference to the Tahs this past weekend so let’s hope he has a strong final few games as that’s good for the comp as a whole.

One thing that did stand out is the difference in styles of play and in particular the passing v running skills of McDermott. He has been playing well this season and really has come on at the Reds. He’s more of a threat than ever before with ball in hand and his darting runs from behind the ruck are causing many defences problems. But his passing from the ground isn’t quite as crisp as the others.

McDermott often takes a step with the ball before releasing his pass and that can give defences a crucial bit of time to get up on the intended recipient. Watching Powell this weekend for example you can see that he gets his passes away to the likes of Matt To’omua without that step and gives his flyhalf a little bit of extra time.

So that raises an interesting question – who would you pick as your two match day scrum halves for the Wallabies and why?

Are we seeing some poor refereeing in New Zealand?
There has been little if any discussion in these weekly articles about the standard of refereeing in the comps this year.

There was a bit of debate about how often the refs were blowing the whistle in the early rounds for offside, but it was apparently a deliberate tactic from the officials to give the teams a sharp shock in rounds one and two in the belief that it would keep them honest for the rest of the tournament.

However there has been growing frustration with the referees in the Aotearoa comp and this past weekend threw up a few flash points.

In the opening minute of the Crusaders v Highlanders game the ref decided that an obstruction from a Highlanders’ winger was more serious than the foul play of Will Jordan tackling an opponent in the air.

Whilst obstruction can be penalised, it doesn’t feel like it trumps dangerous or foul play and Will Jordan got away with hitting an opponent in the air scott free.

Meanwhile, when the Blues took on the Canes, the Canes received two yellow cards, both of which drew debate. Du’Plessis Kirifi was sent to the naughty step for hitting Otere Black high at a ruck but in the replays it seemed pretty clear that Black was not involved in the ruck at all, was on his knees besides the breakdown and got hit to the side of the head. In today’s game, isn’t that a red?

Then when Aardie Savea got yellow carded and the Blues awarded a penalty try, there were many who were confused as to what the Canes skipper had done so wrong as he tried to stop the Blues driving maul getting over the try line. The ref felt that he’d deliberately brought the maul down but that wasn’t clear from initial replays and there had been no warning given from the ref previously.

Of course, there doesn’t have to be a warning but in plenty of other games this season, refs have gone out of their way to warn teams after they’ve already given away three or four penalties in the red zone.

So this is another question for the group – do you think the officials are getting it right or are we seeing few too many important mistakes?

The Crowd Says:

2021-04-07T07:54:32+00:00

CUW

Roar Rookie


NZ n Aussy players will struggle under European refs even Europeans are struggling under their refs :silly contrary to popular belief - some of the Gallagher and pro 14 teams are playing very fast rugger so the refs also have to adjust to the pace of the game but ofcourse there are some errors at crucial times - Pat lam went ballistic last weekend heinecken game.

2021-04-06T07:34:37+00:00

The Neutral View From Sweden

Roar Guru


Even guys who are no fans of DuPont would have him among the five best scrumhalf's in the world.

2021-04-06T04:15:47+00:00

Hazel Nutt

Roar Rookie


Interesting point regarding the number of tackles the Tahs missed. A cursory glance at the SANZAR stats for the game (yeah I know the stats sites are rarely 100% accurate), Newsome missed the most tackles (5 from 6 attempts - shocking!) followed by Ramm (3 from 9 attempts). While Ramm has generally been below the standard he set himself last year, Newsome seems a stop-gap at best and I'd like to see someone else given an opportunity, particularly given the Foketi/Perese combo could be worth sticking with for a while. Does anyone know if Triston Reilly is fit? Perhaps it's time to give him a chance while Newsome warms the pine as centre/wing cover?

2021-04-05T23:55:21+00:00

joe

Guest


Black has been around for a few years now , and in my view has cost the Blues quite a few games with his poor kicking at times and general poor decision making . He is a club rugby 10 nothing more .

2021-04-05T23:52:45+00:00


CUW the refs in the UK are reffing different law interpretations to the NZ refs but Im 100% with you on the very low standard in the NZ comp this year.....What will make me angry is if we have the same as last year when the RC got reffed very differently by the same refs.....Its hard enough on the players having to swap and change their play all the time but the Refs just arnt coping with everything changing all the time and all we get is a concentration on the new laws/interpretations rather than all aspects of the game...Very frustrating!!!

2021-04-05T23:46:11+00:00


In this wekends round....NRL winners 282 points...losers 73.......A very lopsided comp with the haves and the have-nots......Thats an average of 35-9 across all 8 games.......

2021-04-05T23:40:48+00:00


100% agree...In fact I dont see a halfback issue in NZ at all...Even TTT didnt get mentioned.....Not a concern from my POV

2021-04-05T23:32:51+00:00


TWAS stop watching 2019s rugby and watch McD this season and all those issues you mention are much improved.....

2021-04-05T23:31:14+00:00


White only just makes top 5 in a TT comp.....Smith, Weber, Fakatava, McDermott, White...

2021-04-05T22:38:15+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


It depends on the infringement. Sometimes blokes are sent instantly with no TMO. Happened last week from memory. Team had a warning, sacked the maul. Someone got sent.

2021-04-05T19:59:12+00:00

Paulo

Roar Rookie


Someone must have really hurt you badly in the past. I’m sorry you had to go through that.

2021-04-05T18:54:08+00:00

Rassy2020

Roar Rookie


Is there another way to better use the sin-bin by making it more arbitrary and reducing time wasted by the TMO and ref watching umpteen replays whilst trying to master big words like “mitigate”. Possible solution is automatic yellow for every 5 penalties conceded by a team (15 penalties = 3 yellows) and AFL-style citing rather than red cards with the offender dealt with after the game. Discuss?

2021-04-05T14:39:11+00:00

CUW

Roar Rookie


one of the biggest disappointments is not using the tmo when its available. in the savea try mr Pickle went with the touchiew Williams decision he could have easily taken a look with tmo and decisied if the penalty try was warranted. specially as pickle was on the left of the maul and had no view of the whole incident. also had the other foul play been looked at in europe - it will have been a red card easily. there is little connection between number of penalties and cards in NZ compared to gallagher or pro 14.

2021-04-05T14:34:03+00:00

CUW

Roar Rookie


the issue with Svea yellow was that it was decided by touchie. the ref was positioned on the left of the maul and touchie was on the right. usually in gallagher matches - the ref stands behind the maul - which gives him a better view of the ball one big issue in NZ right now ( i only get to see NZ matches on rugby pass ) is that the refs are not following the same Laws or variants or what not the refs in europe do. in gallagher for eg they are penalising everything to do with off side , slowing the ball, high tackles, scrum pulling down and early engagements , closing gap in lineout etc etc. in fact i think last week of gallagher saw 16 yellows and 3 reds. they are strcit on the 5 seconds rule at ruck - tho still it feels like 5 seconds on saturn !!! on the other hand the game in NZ is super slow now - they do everything in slo mo , perhpas becoz of the big Blues pack that needed to rest , just like England pack does. its a pity ref exchange cannot happen in these corona times - but perhaps maybe NZ shud try to get hold of some europe refs - like retired guys like JP Doyle and Nigel Williams et al. otherwise when it comes to test rugger - they are going to have a rude shock how the europeans ref rugger :silly:

2021-04-05T12:54:24+00:00

elysiusrugby

Roar Rookie


Talk about deserved recognition and exclude DuPont from your top 5 halfback :laughing: He's arguably the best player in world

2021-04-05T11:26:51+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


Great service as always OM! Been quite a bad errors of judgement, with our best refs too. The Chiefs' failed captains challenge when Weber clearly touched Mo'unga's hand not the ball was another example. It's a worry. The Blues are also worry. Too many of the old bad habits. Really, the standards are poor everywhere except the Crusaders this year, especially in the basic decision making. Hopefully it's temporary as the likes of Hunt, Fakatava, Trask and Black get more experience and Barrett, TJP, Christie and Booth come back from Japan or injury.

2021-04-05T11:13:03+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


I think Weber is still ahead of Fakatava, who noticeably tired before Smith came on, and I’m sure that for the kid’s development it is good for him to learn from the master. Roe from the Waikato is very promising too. The Canes have their two best 9s either in Japan or injured, they will be much better next year. Drummond I’m very unsure about, I thought he could have made better use of his forwards on Friday. And don’t forget about Finlay Christie who is just coming back from injury. Things aren’t as bad as they look!

2021-04-05T11:09:51+00:00

Bodger

Roar Rookie


He was good in the first game last year then average for the remainder. He's a good 9 but top 5 you're dreaming.

2021-04-05T10:23:33+00:00

Jimbo81

Roar Rookie


Nz playbook

2021-04-05T10:02:40+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


Pete he's a 9. That's part of his job description! Did you see Faf loving it this morning when mouthing off with an angry Welsh forward grabbing his metaphorical lapels, just like White and ALB last year?

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