Richmond Tigers vs Geelong Cats: AFL Friday night forecast

By Stirling Coates / Editor

What better way to kick off another weekend of footy than with a mouth-watering grand final rematch?

What’s more, both Richmond and Geelong come in to tonight’s blockbuster not quite having enjoyed the form they thought they would at this stage.

It’s far from doom and gloom; the Cats humiliated West Coast by 97 points two weeks ago, while the Tigers ended the Western Bulldogs’ unbeaten start to the season last Friday night.

But both teams are out of the top four as it stands with 4-3 records – and the journey to double-chance territory will be made that much harder for whoever goes down.

Richmond fans will point to last season’s slow start and scoff at any suggestions they’re in peril and, when you’re the back-to-back reigning premiers, we’re obliged to take their word for it.

However, 3-3 was technically Richmond’s worst start to a season since the pre-Hardwick premiership era and those three losses have come against teams sitting above them on the ladder – two of them being fairly hefty defeats.

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Geelong, on the other hand, have clearly pushed all their chips to the middle of the table after an aggressive offseason spent trading in everyone they could sign. So far, they’ve looked (with notable exceptions) pretty clunky.

Two of their four wins have come by under a kick – one in controversial circumstances and one against an opponent who had no right to push them that far – while they looked very uninspiring in their comfortable win over North Melbourne.

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Chris Scott addresses his Geelong side. (Photo by Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

Three burning questions

How much of a difference does Jeremy Cameron make?
Before last year’s decider, I wrote that the only way Geelong were going to knock off Richmond was if they played a second key forward alongside Tom Hawkins.

They didn’t do so in that match, losing by five goals, but then went out in the trade week and nabbed themselves one of the very best in the modern game.

The article I wrote last October discusses at length how the Cats know the exact style of game they need to play to counter Richmond, but it constantly falls apart going inside 50.

We haven’t seen a lot of the Hawkins-Cameron monster in 2021, but ten goals from two games is a pretty decent base to work off and they’ll take great inspiration from the combo of Jack Riewoldt and Tom Lynch at the other end to know this caper can work.

Last year’s finals series proved beyond doubt that it’s virtually impossible to beat the Tigers with a solo key forward setup. Hawkins averaged 12 disposals and 2.4 goals a game in 2021 – he had ten touches and one goal in the decider.

In the preliminary final, Charlie Dixon was held to nine touches and a goal after kicking 33 in his 17 matches beforehand.

You need more than one target – or a completely unpredictable setup – to worry the Tiger backline. You can understand why they weren’t comfortable picking Esava Ratugolea or Josh Jenkins as that option in the past, but now they’re out of excuses.

Cameron needs to be the difference-maker for the Cats tonight.

(Photo by Darrian Traynor/Getty Images)

Are the Tigers really back to their best?
One swallow does not make a summer but, if you’ve won three flags in four years, one good game can be enough to signify you’re back at full speed.

Especially when that’s a fairly comprehensive shutdown of the undefeated flag favourites sans Dustin Martin.

As one of our many crowd contributors pointed out midweek, it’s silly saying “the Tigers are back!” – they never went away in the first place.

Richmond continue to make a mockery of modern statistics and, whenever you think you’ve found a deficiency, you invariably discover they were just as ‘bad’ in that area as a flag year.

Third-last in clearances? They were second-last in 2020.

13th in contested possessions? Exactly the same as last season.

Third-last in marks? That’s actually a new one.

It’s not a lot, but last season the Tigers took 3.1 fewer marks per game than their opponents, whereas this year that’s ballooned out to almost 19. The Swans chipped their way around the MCG to a big win in Round 3 and the Demons enjoyed a 25-mark advantage in their five-goal win two weeks ago.

I’ll keep plugging my article from last year until I’m blue in the face, but playing patient, uncontested marking footy is the only way to avoid falling into Richmond’s traps. We all pinned our hopes on West Coast a few years ago for this very reason and, although it’s a small sample size, other teams look to be clueing in. This could be worth following.

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Where to from here for the side that goes down?
Can you make the top four from 4-4? Of course you can.

There’s probably some nerd on Twitter who can crunch the numbers and conclude that it’s impossible for whatever reason – but it’s not. It’s not game over for whoever tastes defeat this evening.

The Tigers have got GWS (MCG), Brisbane (Gabba), Adelaide (MCG), Essendon (MCG), West Coast (Optus), St Kilda (MCG), Gold Coast (Metricon), Collingwood (MCG), Brisbane (MCG), Geelong (MCG), Fremantle (Optus), North Melbourne (G), GWS (Showgrounds) and Hawthorn (MCG) from here on out. There are 11 games there, by my count, where they start very warm favourites.

So, if they fall to 4-4 tonight, they’re still looking at 15-7 come September. The last team to miss out on the double chance (outright) with that record was the Western Bulldogs in 2016. They were pretty good, from memory.

As for Geelong, they’ve got St Kilda (Marvel), Gold Coast (GMHBA), Collingwood (MCG), Port Adelaide (Adelaide), Western Bulldogs (GMHBA), Brisbane (Gabba), Essendon (MCG), Carlton (MCG), Fremantle (Optus), Richmond (MCG), North Melbourne (Hobart), GWS (GMHBA), St Kilda (GMHBA) and Melbourne (GMHBA). Hmmm, not as simple.

I’ve got them as favourites in nine of those contests, which means they’d finish 13-9 with a loss tonight – that won’t get you top four. However, I’m giving them home losses to the Bulldogs and Demons – the Kardinia Park factor could easily make that 15-7 which is top four town.

So, long story short, the Tigers are doing just fine and, while the Cats will need to fight a bit harder, top four is very much in reach for them to.

Put it this way, if either side misses out on the double chance, they won’t be looking back at this match as the one that got away.

Quick stats

The Tigers are confident they can cover Trent Cotchin’s absence. (Photo by Robert Cianflone/Getty Images)

Prediction

The Tigers are who we thought they were. That’s why you take the field.

Yes, they’ve still not quite reached the lofty heights of recent seasons just yet, but they’ve got their heads well above water and served us all a timely reminder against the Bulldogs that, when push comes to shove, they’re still the team to beat.

Geelong may be 4-3 as well but, in my books, they’ve only played one or two really good games this season and seem to be very under Richmond’s spell.

Tigers by 21 points

That’s my Friday night forecast, what’s yours?

The Crowd Says:

2021-05-11T03:25:47+00:00

Dangersphere 10

Roar Rookie


So what exactly happened this week? Was it the umps gifting it to them, or did they just barely hang on against another "cellar dweller?" Also last I checked the game wasn't at GMHBA stadium either, nor was the opponent from interstate, so please enlighten us, how exactly would you underrate them now?

2021-05-11T03:19:17+00:00

Dangersphere 10

Roar Rookie


"Geelong are not young and fit enough to take the game on for 4 quarters like Melbourne and Sydney did." :laughing: GREAT CALL

2021-05-09T11:22:30+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


Been absent cobber.

2021-05-09T03:33:54+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Yeah no doubt. Won several flags there before. No big deal.

2021-05-09T03:27:42+00:00

sven

Roar Rookie


whatever dude, u win the argument, enjoy your little boutique ground with its unique dimensions, good to see the cats have finally learnt to play at the mcg cause thats where the flag will be decided

2021-05-09T02:26:49+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Okay so let’s build a 5 million capacity stadium. That way everyone in Victoria can attend. No wait that won’t do. Let’s make it 25m so everyone in Australia can attend. No wait that’s unfair to international travellers. Let’s just make it an 8 billion seat ground so anyone and everyone can attend and no one will ever miss being able to attend. Just make sure it’s expandable because the world population keeps rising. Sarcasm aside, someone will always miss. That’s life. That is reality. Even if GMHBA reserved half the capacity for Tiger supporters SOME will still miss!!

2021-05-08T23:58:53+00:00

1dog

Roar Rookie


Is the internet still not working in Richmond?

2021-05-08T23:35:46+00:00

sven

Roar Rookie


even if we all did as u suggest, there would still be heaps that miss out ... but as long as youve got your ticket it dont matter i guess

2021-05-08T12:45:30+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


No, I don’t. Buy a membership. Get a reserved seat. If getting a seat is so important to you do something about it instead of acting entitled. Last game I missed was 2008 GF. I’ve never missed a H&A game I wanted to be at. If you wanna be there bad enough log into Ticketmaster as tickets go on sale and get them. Don’t be last and wait. Just like going to an A list musicians concert. You want tickets be fast.

2021-05-08T12:05:41+00:00

sven

Roar Rookie


u dont see a problem with people not being able to get into a game of footy ? oh its a vic thing this sense of entitlement ?

2021-05-08T11:40:40+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


and? What’s wrong with that? Victorians have to drop this sense of entitlement. Getting to go to a live game is a privilege not an inalienable right.

2021-05-08T11:03:58+00:00

sven

Roar Rookie


not saying they should get access to 50%, just saying that with scat parks low capacity theres an awful lot of fans not gonna get in

2021-05-08T07:31:55+00:00

Gerry

Roar Rookie


Lynch

2021-05-08T07:31:35+00:00

Gerry

Roar Rookie


Lunch is lazy

2021-05-08T07:28:16+00:00

Gerry

Roar Rookie


Not this time. Still early doors yet.

2021-05-08T05:28:57+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Why the need to compare? Do tigers supporters have Access to 50% of the tickets when they play interstate? No. Why should it be different for a game not across imaginary lines?

2021-05-08T04:52:00+00:00

sven

Roar Rookie


fair point re cats not getting their games against the 'big' vic clubs at home but to compare scat park with less than 40k capacity to the mcg with 100k capacity in terms of oppo supporters having an opportunity to attend after home members go first is comparing apples with oranges

2021-05-08T01:40:24+00:00

Peter Warrington

Guest


We were driving around the southern highlands listening on the radio and enjoying the freight trains barreling out of the fog. And I found myself cheering for Rohan’s 5th, just so I could say, I told you so. Other than that, a pretty funny night. Sometimes you just have to lay back and let a 10 goal thrashing wash over you. Geelong playing as well as they did in the prelim last year, is totally exposed without Cotch and Prestia in the middle, without Grimes. Not an excuse, an admission that out grunt is disappearing, we have too much flash and not enough grit when that happens Meanwhile Geelong with their George Harrison types in Guthrie and Duncan just slaughtered us, creating the ball that elite users like Smith and Higgins could only dream of in recent seasons. In the midst of it all. Selwood playing his best game ever, single handed payback. It counts for nothing - the past is the past - but it can also count for lots, the Cats must surely have actual belief now, not Scott’s tough talking belief. And it also hit me about Cameron. It’s a weird move for the Cattery, given how he leads. But they will always win enough games down there to make top 6. This is about having a lineup that excels in big games on the MCG. Despite his late start he and Hawkins and Rohan seem to have it well planned. Especially against a Grimesless, Vlastuin rusty and Houli ageing zonal system. Not diminishing Geelong, what more could they have done? Well, very very smart recruiting. They have to be flag faves now.

2021-05-08T00:16:53+00:00

Goalsonly

Roar Rookie


Goals is Love in football terms.

2021-05-07T23:56:53+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Why do people keep on with the Clark is going to WA drivel. Maybe someday but not soon. He signed an extension with the Cats 3 weeks ago.

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