What are each team's goals for the Spring internationals? Part 1

By Unders / Roar Pro

The Spring internationals are upon us after nearly three years of World Cup and pandemic disruption.

Earlier in 2021, the Six Nations was a cracking tournament, with four of the six teams playing out gripping and close encounters.

All teams will be stronger depth-wise with the Home Nations blooding plenty of new caps in their mid-year internationals.

Since then, the Springboks have defeated the British and Irish Lions, which adds spice to the end-of-year tour, while the All Blacks comfortably won the Rugby Championship.

Australia, meanwhile, seem buoyant and much more of a well-drilled outfit with the return of veterans like Samu Kerevi and Quade Cooper.

Argentina are in a bit of a gutter with plenty of class and muscle, but a damaged morale partly due to playing away from home for so long.

England
Fixtures: Tonga, Australia and South Africa
Eddie Jones has revamped his coaching staff and finally introduced some much-demanded new faces into camp. Marcus Smith, Sam Simmonds and Alex Dombrandt, who were the three best players in the Premiership last season, are named in England’s training camp.

The training camp is not the finalised squad for November, but injury permitting, these faces will likely feature come then. Big names such as Billy Vunipola, Mako Vunipola, Jamie George and George Ford have been omitted from the squad, and it is fascinating to see whether they will be back.

Eddie Jones understands coaching cycles perfectly and knows now is the time to build for France 2023.

Eddie Jones. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

In similar fashion to winter campaigns in 2018-19 when he dropped some mainstays of the dressing room, omitting such key members from the 2019 World Cup is a mirror image. Freddie Steward, Adam Radwan and Joe Marchant add aerial dominance, flair and lightning speed to the back line, in tandem with Marcus Smith’s unpredictability.

England will aim for three from three wins, but before that, they need to see what is their best line-up. Can Smith and Owen Farrell form a ten-12 axis? Given Farrell’s form and familiarity with Ford, it may seem a while before they become an established combination.

Dombrandt also seems the front runner for number eight given Jones’ preference of a bigger back rower to accommodate kamikaze kids Tom Curry and Sam Underhill.

Lock and centre are the areas England need to build on with Courtney Lawes unlikely to be at France at the age of 34, Manu Tuilagi’s unreliable injury record and Ollie Lawrence’s failure to make his mark. They are the only areas of concern for Jones.

George Martin and Ted Hill are the big units Eddie loves and I would like to see them given opportunities at lock. Joe Marchant, Dan Kelly and Lawrence should all be given game time at 12 or 13 to see if England have a crash ball or athletic answer to Tuilagi’s presence at midfield.

If Tuilagi does not play Kerevi on November 13, it will be interesting to see who does and who can contain him.

Australia
Fixtures: Japan, Scotland, England, Wales
Dave Rennie’s men are on a serious roll given the fairly comfortable displays against world champions South Africa and a struggling Argentina.

Australia played with an absence of white-line fever and look extremely well drilled and understanding of their game plan. Quade Cooper and Samu Kerevi’s returns have allowed the back line to improve massively, with Andrew Kellaway and Len Ikitau flawless.

Rennie will now be very happy with his depth in many areas as they build for France 2023, they have enough depth in the back row and front row for instance, and a seemingly established centre partnership.

Locking stocks are going fine with Izack Rodda and Matt Philip anchoring the lineout, but they will be beefed up with Rory Arnold and Will Skelton returning.

(Photo by Dan Mullan/Getty Images)

Fullback and flyhalf are perhaps the only area of concern with Noah Lolesio not really showing signs of adaptation against the All Blacks. Tom Banks hasn’t been too bad, but he is injured.

Rennie will be aiming for four from four. Two from four is adequate for a good year of building for the Wallabies. Japan should not be taken lightly, but I imagine they will prevail.

Twickenham away will be tough given their record, but England are perhaps at their most vulnerable. Cardiff and Edinburgh are venues with good Aussie memories, but they will likely be 50-50 matches.

They look a united and well-oiled machine now, especially with many players like Rob Valetini, Taniela Tupou and Pete Samu for instance learning by example from the best player and number seven in the world right now, Michael Hooper.

New Zealand
Fixtures: USA, Wales, Italy, Ireland, France
Rugby Championship winners New Zealand may be left with a bitter taste after defeat to the Boks, but they are still an incredibly tough team to beat.

They travel well and have only lost to Ireland of any recent end-of-year tour. The All Blacks don’t have many areas of worry. The lineout, the need for a big 12 and depth at lock are the only ones.

The rest are going near-perfect with immense depth in the back line and back row. Sam Whitelock’s return should arrest lineout errors and virtually every lineout will be challenged against South Africa.

The bigger issues of concern are now with David Havili, who has been one of the standout All Blacks this year. He is an awesome footballer: swift, agile and has a very sound and composed kicking game. His connection with Richie Mo’unga allows New Zealand to almost play a ten-12 axis due to him.

But the issue around him is not him as an individual, but more on team balance. Havili’s only issue is his size and physicality. Although untroubled by Kerevi, he struggled when coming up against the beefy Springboks pack and the Damian de Allende-Lukhanyo Am combo.

(Photo by Anthony Au-Yeung/Getty Images)

When his pack is going back, Havili may be unfair scapegoat. Teams take advantage of their mismatches against him. Havili should feature in the USA, Italy and Wales games for sure.

I’m not saying he should not in the France and Ireland games, but look at his opposite numbers: Robbie Henshaw, Virimi Vakatawa, Bundee Aki and potentially Jonathan Danty and even Willis Halaholo could be running at his channel.

It is up for Ian Foster to decide whether he wants to risk the playmaker against them. There are minimal solutions for a crash baller at 12. Perhaps Akira Ioane could be given a go?

Elsewhere, locking stocks will be deprived with Patrick Tuipulotu and Scott Barrett staying home. Tupou Vaa’i should be given more than just a start against Italy and the US if the All Blacks want to really build a forward pack for France.

Although the All Blacks are stacked with back-row options, there is no clear holder of the six jersey. It is becoming regular talk, but the All Blacks supposedly have a soft underbelly.

They maybe do not have the sheer mongrel at six like the Saffers, Irish and English really possess or the sheer size of the French.

When the game is open, the All Blacks school everyone. When it is cold, rainy and horrible northern weather or a big occasion on a neutral ground, opposition teams dig into the lineout and lack of a physical presence.

Scott Barrett at six is not the long-term solution, so his non-selection provides plenty of opportunity for Foster’s men to trial new blood.

Perhaps a good headache to have is who captains the side? The returning Sam Cane will have Ardie Savea, Brodie Retallick and Whitelock to contest with.

Adding Aaron Smith, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles and Beauden Barrett to the mix, there is no lack of experience or leadership.

They will naturally aim for five from five wins. But do not be surprised if an All Blacks scalp is claimed in Dublin or Paris.

The Crowd Says:

2021-10-14T15:37:44+00:00

SDHoneymonster

Guest


I think so too. After a while seemingly not really caring as England lost dual-qualified players the clubs and England age groups had developed (Tompkins, Williams, Treadwell, Burns, Haley, Sisi, Moriarty etc) it's clear the scenario that unfolded with Redpath rattled Jones a lot - he was very spiky when asked about it in the aftermath of both the 6N squad announcement and subsequent defeat to Scotland, where Redpath played excellently on debut. There's a definite move to tie players in early now (somewhat cynically, some might say), hence why Heyes, Kelly and Randall were capped over the summer and why I suspect Lynagh, Quirke and Rodd will see minutes in the Autumn, Odogwu as well in the 6N when he returns from injury. Given they've both missed out on the squad announcements for Scotland and Wales respectively I wouldn't be surprised to see another cheeky attempt to turns the heads of Ashman and Reffell, too.

2021-10-14T15:08:20+00:00

SDHoneymonster

Guest


Suspect Jones wants to give a Smith a run out with either Tuilagi or Lawrence at some point in order to experiment with a similar dynamic. Atkinson was named in the last training squad too and he's a hefty lump of a runner, although it's allied to a more traditional inside centre's skill set too.

2021-10-14T06:10:24+00:00

WEST

Roar Guru


The big thing for the ABs is the set piece, especially against teams who have similar styles as South Africa. Get the set piece running smoothly and the rest starts to get easier.. The All Blacks have Coles and Whitelock back, both are the best in the ABs lineout department. Whitelock is the Chief call maker, we missed him terribly against SA. Coles is the best at throwing in, also was missed against SA. Both would have watched the games against SA and will be wanting to fix the errors up. The loss to the Springboks was a good lesson for this team ahead of the NH tour. Plenty to work on for this tour. Ireland and France will be massive games. Both teams are waiting to catch the ABs by surprise. Wallabies will need to be careful, they often allow a few wins to go to their heads. I’m very curious to see how Dave Rennie prepares his squad for this tour. Also interesting to see where Quade Cooper ends up. See if the old QC starts to emerge? SA never really travel well, similar to this years RC losing three in a row. But one win over the All Blacks was all that was required to quiet down any talk of poor Performances and discipline issues. Anyones guess to see what they come up with on tour? Mix bag of results I’d expect. Pumas… Gees, poor Argentina. They haven’t really fired a shot this year. Hopefully they can get a something happening soon.

2021-10-14T05:44:58+00:00

WEST

Roar Guru


NZ isn’t playing against England

2021-10-13T08:32:30+00:00

K.F.T.D.

Roar Rookie


Tooly You need one of those moniker things up in the left hand corner. That drab 1984 colour toned and themed circle is below you - lift your game.

2021-10-13T02:40:27+00:00

Tooly

Roar Rookie


Farrell will handle Kerevi with ease . Marler the same with Tupou, May will run rings around Koriebeti, Underhill will shorten Hooper and Quadie up . Curry will blow kisses at Swinton . No shortage of back rowers in England , old one and young ones. Real power and mobility. . Eddie has an eye on the future with Smith, Malins, Lynagh and Joe Marler back. . Rennie has an eye on his arse with Cheika’s losers back plus hope and BS. . NZ are in lumbo. They need Robinson badly. . SA will recover from the crucifixion of Rassie by WR and the crucify him ! crucify him ! crowd . Kolbi will be back. . Wales won’t beat anyone except us. . England will beat us and the ABs. . Ireland will only lose to SA .

2021-10-10T04:51:12+00:00

Carlos the Argie

Roar Guru


What? Argentina is not playing tests? :shocked:

2021-10-10T02:34:53+00:00

Waxhead

Roar Rookie


@Unders Don't agree :) Los Pumas are never content with losing against anyone. They convincingly beat Wales in July in Cardiff and after they get a much needed rest I think they've got very realistic hopes of beating France, Italy and Ireland in Nov :)

2021-10-09T23:45:31+00:00

Tim J

Roar Rookie


I totally agree Peter… Wales will be up for it, I can see them playing a similar game that the Wallabies did against the Boks in the second game.

2021-10-09T22:30:38+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Yeah, it seems certain Jones will lock him in with some minutes this year

2021-10-09T21:46:03+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


The humidity and heat the wallabies played in made the ball very slippery and wet so in that way equates to handling in the NH if there is some rain. The biggest issue / difference was the ground became heavy or even a bog. But they redid the drainage in 2015 and it doesn't get as heavy in rain now. If it is not wet it is a fast firm ground now.

2021-10-09T21:37:09+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Agree Pete but it’s still a different ball game implementing those things in the Qld sunshine against doing it in gloomy UK in November. In front of noisy away crowds too. I’m optimistic but very conscious we need to be doing things differently. Rennie and his team all have lots of NH experience so reason to be optimistic

2021-10-09T20:47:17+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


Wales play boks after AB's, so that will be a tough game for the boks

2021-10-09T20:45:55+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


they would be favourites to beat Italy

2021-10-09T20:44:14+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


big difference is the wallabies have a all court game now. They kick and chase well, they counter ruck well, they defend well, they are reasonable both sides of the maul, they do not just have a running game as their only weapon. They can play it tight or play it wide or mix it up.

2021-10-09T20:41:22+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


LL is certain to choose England over Australia. He grew up there. His friends are there. He would make a lot more money. He doesn't have to worry about being one of the chosen ones selected from o/s for the wallabies and doesn't have to move to Australia. The only reason he wouldn't is if he is not confidant in his abilities to hold down a regular spot for England.

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2021-10-09T19:31:35+00:00

Unders

Roar Pro


It's good having goals, but which of the team's have realistic ones? For instance, I'd say if Argentina get a single win they'll be chuffed

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2021-10-09T19:27:36+00:00

Unders

Roar Pro


Time will tell if Jones is adapting the England playbook for the World Cup. I think he really rates Dombrandt and has definitely wanted to see improvements in his fitness. Dombrandt runs some insane lines, has the rig and some beautiful soft hands on him. I would want to see him at 8 and Simmonds as an impact back row/centre cover. I'm not so sure if Rennie should have said he was actively still looking at Lynagh. England's first game is Tonga and Lynagh would probably be guaranteed in the 23 if Eddie names a youth and inexperienced side. I think the only way of convincing LL is by really speaking to his father- his father loves and breathes Aussie rugby so don't be surprised if Rugby Au try launch a nice swanky dinner in London with Louis and/or Michael Lynagh before the Tonga game.

2021-10-09T09:50:29+00:00

Bodger

Roar Rookie


The Wallabies and ABs have had a long time together this year playing and training. You would hope that gives them a good advantage going into this year’s autumn series but the Wallabies often look tired and flat by the time they get to the U.K. so that’s a challenge this year, a motivated team wanting to be out there not back home on holiday.

2021-10-09T08:16:47+00:00

Englishbob

Guest


Really looking forward to all these games. The England Australia, South Africa Wales and France NZ would be my three entertainment locks. Wales will have a torrid time of it, they'll scrap like they always do but losses to all three seem very likely, the Cardiff crowd can only do so much for the depleted Welshmen. The 'success' of England's, SA and Australia's tour largely depends on the face of it atleast on the two games at Twickenham, I cant call them but would maybe maybe the SH teams 60/40 favourites ish. SA have been both sublime and ridiculous and its unlikely the team that beat the lions or NZ will be the one that runs out so form isn't as indicative as it may be. If Australia want to continue an upward trajectory they need to beat ideally both of the teams that beat them in 2019 RWC. If SA want to cement their number 1 they have to win every game, which they may. NZ to sweep the board....until Paris, one bridge too far at the end of a torrid season.

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