The Thursday rugby two-up: What needs fixing this spring?

By Brett McKay / Expert

The Spring Tours are in various states for the southern hemisphere nations right at the moment – one is in progress, one is in a suddenly precarious state, and the other two are yet to begin.

With games underway and games played, and even with other games yet to be played, we’ve seen enough of our teams to still have concerns, and either enough of other teams or not enough of other teams to be worried by some of the opposition’s key players.

But what can we do about it? And how much time do we have to do it?

In all honestly, there’s not much we can actually do, but talk about it.

And oh, how we can talk about it…

Question 1: What are you most concerned about, regarding your team, for the Tour? What are you seeing that you think needs urgent attention?

Brett
Negotiation methods with Japanese clubs, right at the moment!

When I first posed this question to the panel, I had attacking breakdown in my mind to answer this – and there’s certainly no question that this was an area lacking for the Wallabies last weekend against Japan.

But now that we know that Samu Kerevi definitely won’t play the next three Tests of the tour, the key priority is rebuilding the Wallabies game plan around the players who will now do the job.

On Tuesday in a comment, I said that Dave Rennie had to find “a game plan that plays to Hunter Paisami and the midfield and not require them to play like Kerevi.”

“Paisami obviously isn’t Kerevi, so let him be Paisami,” I said.

(Photo by Anthony Au-Yeung/Getty Images)

Now that Quade Cooper’s involvement is under a significant cloud as well (and the whole ‘he will withdraw’/’he hasn’t told the Wallabies yet’/’informed teammates he isn’t going’ reporting has become rather tabloid and undignified in the last few days, I must say), this point of mine is quickly expanded.

The Wallabies defence was still very good in Oita, so that shouldn’t be affected, but the biggest quandary right now will be to find a method of midfield attack that works to the strengths of the players, and doesn’t force them to play to a plan that worked last month.

So, who are the players fit and available, and what is the best way they can play in a way that will cause issues for Scotland next weekend, first and foremost?

Nobes
There are many things that worry me about Los Pumas for this series and its future in general.

Unlike previous years, the players are scattered in different places and with different realities. A few are in Argentina, several in Premiere League and Top 14, and a few in Italy. The lack of training together and the poor performance at the last Rugby Championship present a huge challenge for Mario Ledesma.

Lack of coordination and quality ball to produce attacks and sequences will be a difficult deficit to improve in this context. The set pieces must make a huge improvement if Los Pumas want to have a chance.

The good thing is that with this low expectation anything positive will be encouraging.

Digger
The All Blacks’ offensive breakdown, and maybe just the ruck in general.

From the set up I have seen so far this season, we expose ourselves and our continuity with ball in hand by not being both accurate enough, nor committing enough numbers.

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This is an area I would dearly love to see some different systems employed by the All Blacks on this tour to address this and a higher output in terms of groundwork across our front eight.

Sides who have really attacked our rucks have caused us plenty of bother and really take the momentum out of our game; it is a key area to be fixed.

Harry
I’m worried about injuries to Springbok locks.

It wasn’t long ago we had five top-class locks in the 23: rugged, upskilled Eben Etzebeth, phenom Pieter-Steph du Toit, the happy giant Lood de Jager, super athlete RG Snyman, and the indefatigable Franco Mostert.

And now there are three. We can’t afford to lose another one.

All three have played big minutes in 2021 in big matches. I would rest EE and Lood against Scotland.

Does Eben Etzebeth need a rest? (Photo by Craig Mercer/MB Media/Getty Images)

Geoff
With respect to the Wallabies, has our esteemed panel chief ever before posed such a timely question? Since dealing with the Brave Blossoms, things have turned sharply downhill for the Wallabies, and “concern” and “urgent attention” are indeed the order or the day.

Finding a 10, 12 and 15 and cover off the bench has suddenly become paramount. A debrief and new strategy on how to best balance all of the nuances around overseas player selection and availability will no doubt follow.

For the All Blacks there remains a concern that the balance between physical confrontation and swift ball movement isn’t quite set in the right position. That shouldn’t be a problem over the next fortnight, but Ireland and France will demand that the All Blacks pay due respect to the way their opponent plays, as well as their own style of play.

Question 2: And which one player are you most worried about among your team’s opposition this Tour?

Brett
Like the first question, I had someone in mind straight away when posing this question, too. But I don’t need to change to someone else this time.

And watching highlights reels of what Finn Russell is doing with Racing 92 in France at the moment does nothing to ease these concerns. He was really good in the final Lions Test in South Africa, to the point that more than a few ‘The Lions would have won the series if Russell played from the start’ articles out there on the interwebs.

If he can quickly jell with countrymen, the Scots will be a handful in attack. In many ways, it will be a huge shame if indeed Cooper doesn’t make the trip to the UK, because they certainly strike as similarly minded players in pretty solid form right at the moment.

But, if there’s a plus side to knowing how Russell plays and how to stop he and the Scots in attack, the Wallabies do have one ace up their sleeve: Scotland’s former defence coach, Matt Taylor, now does the Wallabies’ defensive planning.

Nobes
Antoine Dupont is the scrumhalf of the moment and he seems unstoppable.

This player is one of the adversaries’ worst nightmare with his outbursts and always being in support throughout the court, is definitely the man Los Pumas should neutralise. Easier said than done.

Digger
As I have clearly been made aware that I can only select one player, it would have to be Antoine Dupont.

I personally do not take in a lot from the Northern competitions and given the fanfare around this chap, I am really looking forward to watching him play against New Zealand and an obvious big threat.

(Marcus Smith would be the other bloke but as NZ are not playing England than I haven’t broken any rules around numbers of nominated players – just saying, clear loophole in the laws.)

Harry
I will keep a close eye on Welsh wings, but in particular, Josh Adams.

He’s a clever slider in tight spaces, is a serious finisher, and backs himself. Lukhanyo Am and Sbu Nkosi will need to be a blanket.

Geoff
With the loss of Samu Kerevi and subsequent uncertainty around midfield combinations, Manu Tuilagi shapes as a potential troublemaker for the Wallabies, when they reach Twickenham.

The obvious fly in the ointment for the All Blacks is French halfback Antoine Dupont. An already great player currently at the top of his form, the All Blacks will need to ensure they slow the France’s ball down and tackle surely, to deny him opportunities on the back-up.

It’s a real shame that Aaron Smith isn’t on tour, denying fans a juicy, heavyweight match-up.

OVER TO YOU: What most concerns you around your team and the Spring Tour?

And which one opposition player are you most worried about?

The Crowd Says:

2021-10-30T00:40:38+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


I believe you have backups for 10. 12 15 all the time but even more so when you have a 4 or 5 person larger squad than usual. Its a bad oversite.

2021-10-29T22:25:16+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Got it pretty right Chook, apart from not replacing that first 'N' with an 'R' in the State name.!!!Lol :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2021-10-29T09:18:59+00:00

TJ-Go Force!

Roar Rookie


I don't disagree. There should be a number 10 understudy in squad at all times. I think Rennie/RA probably juggling up what's going to be more beneficial, coming on Tour, or having a proper preseason, maybe getting some muscle on in the gym, etc.

2021-10-29T08:46:22+00:00

WEST

Roar Guru


They can still field 729 test cap team. Wales have a lot of quality players. And like the ABs are building good depth.

2021-10-29T08:15:29+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Id prefer Harrison but I wouldnt just take them to play England. Id have had them playing NZ, Arg and even SA for bits at a time and of course had them with the squad the whole 3 mths. The idea of taking Lolesio to NZ the just dropping him was not good management by Rennie and its unusual from him. He didnt have a 10 backup against NZ at all. Bad management.

2021-10-29T08:04:59+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Yep apoligies to you from me.....

2021-10-29T07:55:59+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


:happy: :happy:

2021-10-29T07:51:42+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


Nonsense, DA. A proper man needs to be able to lay the law down. And I’m seriously considering, at some point in the future, telling my wife precisely that.

2021-10-29T07:43:52+00:00

tsuru

Roar Rookie


Jacko. Get your posters straight. Whoever made that comment, it wasn’t me. TBH I’m not even sure what a basketball philosophy is. OK. I just checked. Your disagreement is with Otago Man.

2021-10-29T07:41:04+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


No. I’m not comfortable expressing sympathy for the Welsh, but their pack is not near full strength. Ken Owens is the latest one to go down. About half their pack aren’t first choice, and the forwards on the bench are particularly weak. The starting pack is OK, but those that will come on would struggle to get a SR contract.

2021-10-29T06:02:05+00:00

TJ-Go Force!

Roar Rookie


So you would take Ben Donaldson .. to play England at Twickenham? No disrespect to Ben, that’s past his pay grade right now.

2021-10-29T05:04:44+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Tsuru your first comment bagged Hansen as having a Basketball philosophy and I pointed out that the basketball philosophy worked well for Hansen. ( 90% ) I want Foster to forge his own path too but Id guess NZR appointed him partly because they wanted a continuation of the ABs approach.

2021-10-29T04:27:07+00:00

tsuru

Roar Rookie


Jacko, I don’t understand your reply to me. I don’t know who I’m supposed to have bagged. And the point of my comment was that people and teams can always do better. Even the ABs would be disappointed at losing to the Boks this last time.

2021-10-29T04:27:04+00:00

Rhys

Roar Rookie


I think the planning ahead for this could have been much better. Rennie even said said so himself. In future I’d like to think they’d be on top of this so we aren’t searching Europe for anyone with rugby boots and an Aus passport. Hopefully just teething issues for selecting guys from overseas. The main concern is depth. The WBs could very well come out of a pool phase with injuries in 2023 and have a run of three games similar to what they are facing in this tour. How they play seek to improve without key players will be a massive test.

2021-10-29T01:50:18+00:00

Otago Man

Roar Rookie


I was hoping he would forge his own way but it seems he is no great innovator. Yes, we have him till then, so I guess we just sit back and hope for development. With Savea it looks like a Plumtree obsession. If it fails he will carry the can for it.

2021-10-29T01:44:21+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


I agree about Foster but what can we do? He is the coach till 2023 so what we get is now up to him. Im disapointed in our forwards ability to get turnovers and it appears Foster has not priortised this as with the new rules I though it would help. I am disapointed in their facination with Savea at 8. Its dumb and denies LJ and HS any decent opportunities so a bit of a wasted year for Sotuto in particular. Im disapointed Quinn T doesnt get more time at 12. Foster is it. Like it or not sadly.

2021-10-29T01:21:38+00:00

Otago Man

Roar Rookie


We will always have great players but there is a downward trend that needs to be arrested. I do put the blame into the coaches box with their plans and selections. When Mains took over in 1992 the results compared to the previous regime don't make great reading but it laid the foundation for the 1995 World Cup team. The period of 1987-1991 was a great one but by 1990 cracks were showing with the same tactics and type of player being selected. It needed a cleanout, some players didn't really deserved to be dropped but the message had to get through and unlock the amazing talent that was being held back. I'm really looking for Foster to provide a new way of doing things but I'm not seeing it yet.

2021-10-29T00:58:42+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


I guess Im happy to see wins in the win column. Trophies in the cabinet and titles on the whiteboard. The team we had from 2011 thru to 2017 had some of the best guys the ABs have had play for them and you dont replace them overnight if ever. Is there another Richie? Another DC? for that matter is there another Whitelock/Brodie lock combo? Kaino has proven very difficult to replace and guys like Ben Smith were as good as it got. I see it more as "sinking back to reality" than being on some constant downhill others are saying. We have some very good young guys coming thru. Blackkadder is one example, Samisorni another. Vaii and Lord look to be full of promise and there are other young locks too. Props Degroot and Lomax etc and others are coming thru and its as good a back line as we could expect. To me the world isnt ending even tho we wont have the results we had in the golden period of 2011-2017. But we havent really had that before so why do we expect it to be a constant.

2021-10-29T00:13:04+00:00

Otago Man

Roar Rookie


I hear you on this but it is recent trends. They walloped a Wallabies side looking for a pattern of play but then faced a South African side that found their mettle. They were very fortunate to win that first game against SA. My point is that in a pinnacle game they will tank. The 2019 semi final loss was a real pants-down despite the score only being 19-7 to England. To me it is clear they are not addressing issues at the breakdown but relaying on individual ball skills to get wins. The Hansen led era had ran out of steam during 2017. The golden age was effectively over. I'm looking to see if these issues are addressed on the northern tour.

2021-10-28T23:50:01+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


I dont see that as a reason to have no cover for 10 12 and 15 on tour.

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