Do we really want to see England in despair and humiliated? The answer might surprise you

By Ben Pobjie / Expert

The question of how long Australia can kick sand in the face of England before it becomes tiresome even for fans of the victors is not a new one.

In 1989, Allan Border led Australia out of a long nightmare and on an almost sadistic rampage throughout the old country.

England used 29 players in the series, Graham Gooch saw Terry Alderman bowling off-cutters in his nightmares every night, and the underrated Aussies won 4-0, kicking off an era of crushings.

Four years after that tour, when England sneaked victory over a mentally-absent Australia at The Oval, it was the first time in 18 Tests that they’d beaten the Aussies and questions were already being asked down under about whether you could have too much of a good thing.

By 2003, when the scene in The Simpsons where the kid sobs, “He’s already dead” had become the only truly succinct way to sum up the dynamic of the Ashes, it was widely remarked that no matter how much we’d always yearned to batter the Poms, it was just getting sad. Moreover, it was Bad For Cricket, especially given how rude the Australians always were.

Those lamenting the limp performance of the current England team maybe don’t recall the ’90s and early 2000s, when the brutality with which English teams were dispatched frequently far exceeded anything seen this year on the cricket field – or indeed in most recent horror films. Suffice to say that the fact that for the last ten years Australia has only dominated at home, with their best result in Britain the 2-2 of 2019, indicates the gap between the teams has not yet reached McDermott-versus-McCague levels.

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Yet it is a question worth asking. As cricket lovers here in Australia, do we really want to see Test after Test where English batsmen are roughed up and English bowlers toil painfully under the southern sun for no reward?

Sure, we are patriots, but we are also lovers of the game, and as such, is it truly satisfying when our team’s victory is not so much a hard-fought triumph over worthy foes as a successful burning and looting of a five-year-old’s lemonade stand? Can we genuinely derive pleasure from prolonged displays of such relentless thumpery?

After all, in 2013-14 we saw Mitchell Johnson tear England apart like they just solved the Lament Configuration, ending careers and sending batsmen fleeing in terror. In 2017-18 a less spectacular but more efficient fast-bowling unit methodically dismantled an England that seemed well out of their depth.

In 2021-22, it would appear that Joe Root’s men are, if anything, inferior to the last two touring parties. Do we really want to gloat over the remains left by this downward spiral?

Apart from Root, nobody in the England team averages 40. Their best quicks are creaking veterans who seem to still not know how to bowl on Australian pitches. If they have a Test-quality spinner, they are unwilling to pick him. They choose between fast bowlers based on who’s more likely to hit a useful 30 at number eight. Their wicketkeeper drops catches that would’ve been simple even without gloves. Their openers consider batting less an occupation than a brief diversion between dressing-room crossword sessions.

We know all this, and we’re glad that Australia are on top, but can we enjoy such a rabble being given dose after dose of the inevitable?

Can we look with joy on another day of red-faced despair in the field, of the hollow eyes of haunted batsmen trudging funereally back to the pavilion, of a hapless captain with head in hands, of proud professional athletes reduced to shadows of themselves?

Is that feeling of smug superiority truly worth the mental and emotional breakdown of fellow human beings and the confirmation in another nation’s mind that our beautiful country is the eternal Hell of which story and legend tell?

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Do we, in short, actually want to keep watching England get the shit kicked out of it, indefinitely?

I’ve spent many long hours pondering all of these questions, and after sober consideration I can answer without fear of contradiction: yes.

Yes, we do.

Glad to clear that up.

The Crowd Says:

2021-12-24T03:16:22+00:00

Christo the Daddyo

Roar Rookie


I agree totally Australia is in better form than England at the moment.

2021-12-24T01:43:21+00:00

Akitas

Roar Rookie


That's because they have had more practice at losing.

2021-12-23T23:59:35+00:00

JAMES G HASLAM

Guest


While I certainly lament the sad state of the country of my father as a result of Brexit, when it comes to cricket, humiliating the Poms makes up for how boring the test version of the game is 95% of the time

2021-12-23T09:34:52+00:00

Pom in exile

Roar Rookie


Of course.

2021-12-23T08:02:28+00:00

Morsie

Roar Rookie


Spoken from experience?

2021-12-23T07:00:27+00:00

Pom in exile

Roar Rookie


Well good for you mate, it’s character building.

2021-12-23T06:58:19+00:00

Morsie

Roar Rookie


Mate, I'm Waratahs and Wallabies fan, I have become immune to the pain of losing.

2021-12-23T06:31:51+00:00

Pom in exile

Roar Rookie


Indeed they were. Unlike most Aussies they can’t be accused of being fair weather fans.

2021-12-23T05:06:55+00:00

Morsie

Roar Rookie


Born from losing.......... :laughing: :shocked: :stoked: :cricket:

2021-12-23T04:37:32+00:00

Pom in exile

Roar Rookie


You are mostly right although people still care about the Ashes…even if they pretend not to.

2021-12-23T04:33:58+00:00

Pom in exile

Roar Rookie


You e clearly not been to the cricket then because even though they are comparatively small in number they have been going hard for 5 days each time. There’s literally nothing that will shut them up, certainly not England getting hammered anyway, they were born from this remember.

2021-12-23T03:54:06+00:00

Chris Love

Roar Guru


This old Cliche we used to run with that the best bat should be captain. I hope Cummins puts that to bed for ever.

2021-12-23T03:51:14+00:00

Chris Love

Roar Guru


Exactly, we have a lot of improvement needed in The Australian Team and Australian cricket. But the English cricket fans brought this on themselves. When they finally won the Ashes back all those years ago now, we never heard the end of it. The English are the worst winners in world sport. Soak this up while it lasts.

2021-12-23T02:26:26+00:00

Rossi

Roar Rookie


And also touring similar countries back to back, if the poms had a 3 test series away to RSA they'd be much better off due to similar conditions. Same with India, play Bangers first, or SL so when you get to India you've had some proper cricket in those conditions. With England, NZ are probably closest with the swing they generate, or even give Ireland a couple of tests

2021-12-23T01:55:51+00:00


What?

2021-12-23T01:11:01+00:00

Sydneysider

Guest


It's because cricket has so few nations playing test cricket at a decent level. 11 test playing nations, but only a handful are genuinely competitive, hence the boredom of playing the same nations over and over and there isn't a competitive series. this series will be over before the end of 2021. Once that happens, the NRL and AFL fans will go back to getting ready for their 2022 seasons.

2021-12-23T01:10:17+00:00

Jeff

Roar Rookie


Context. The history of The Ashes is a different proposition to the Chappell-alee Trophy any other bilateral name plate.

2021-12-22T22:59:58+00:00

DaveJ

Roar Rookie


Well that was the problem. Ashes are all very well, but a series is a series is a series and should be the goal. If NZ came over here and we could only draw 1-1 at home, we wouldn’t say, aren’t we fantastic, we’ve retained the Chappell-Hadlee Trophy! Not much point to having series if one side wins if it draws.

2021-12-22T22:36:28+00:00

Morsie

Roar Rookie


"A series" - the 4,000 day reference was to not a single game. Australia 2019 in England 2-2 and in England in 2015 3-2. Means we won 4 games in England - since 2010-11 they haven't won a game in Australia. Triumphant, hell yes......

2021-12-22T21:50:25+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


Oh 100%. You want him on your team, but are just embarrassed by him cause he's so absolutely daggy

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