Muslim AFLW player explains call to not wear Giants' pride jumper as coach backs her in

No I’m not. I’ve attended a few Iftar dinners over the years & once helped local Muslim groups with organising one, but I’m not religious.

Fair point.

No it hasn't - cats have lost every match :crying:

Can we talk the rest of the AFLW yet? It's been going great guns.

Havent bought mainstream trashmedia in 15 years, wouldn't reverse that decision to enable a hypocritical goose.

You can read his thoughts in the herald if you like

she hasn't even said what her beliefs are, everyone has just assumed she's another Israel Folau because she has declined to wear some stupid jersey lol get a grip

Why does Zrieka have to justify her actions by detailing the reasons behind her beliefs I never said she did, I was responding to the idea that all beliefs are equal. They are not. Zrieka has no obligation to justify her beliefs but no-one else has any obligation to respect them either.

Chris M. Very well articulated. Agree 100%

Ahh, the whole lack of proof thing is an issue for me I don’t assume anything, I don’t believe, male, female, elephant, it’s all fictional to me

I also think you need to look at that in the cold hard light of reality unfortunately. Who said it? Was it a minority? Check, Was it a female, check, was it worded cleverly, check What can you do? it's a free country, some people however seem to be able to say more than others. Look at what GWS said, I've never seen a finer example of fence sitting, people are to scared to say anything. I'll say it, she's a bigot, couldn't care less why she doesn't appreciate the gay community, her reasons mean less than zero to me.

I also follow the fortunes of the Swans, my most local club. It's a sporting club not a political party. Board members, officials, coaches, employees or players are entitled to express any opinion that they like or none on their personal social media accounts. However, a sporting club shouldn't be taking the role of advocating that people vote one way or the other for same sex marriage or on any other matter. It is hardly being inclusive of people employed within the organisation, including players, who may have been intending to vote differently. I have been told that in the earlier part of the 20th century when most Catholic priests were Irish born, many of these priests used to tell the congregation how they should vote at an election. This went beyond their role of helping the faithful to develop their consciences in discerning right from wrong. This doesn't happen today as far as I know. Whether you are a church or sporting club, don't tell us how to vote on anything. We have the right to vote because we are old enough and mature enough to make up our minds for ourselves using our own consciences. Players seek to get drafted because they want to play Australian football at the highest level, not because they consent to be used by sporting clubs for their own social and political agendas. If the club wants to go work behind the scenes with various disadvantaged groups, such as LGBTQI community, various ethnic groups, indigenous groups, the homeless, terminally ill children and some players wish to be involved, all well and good. Just don't force the expression of an opinion by manipulating all the players to wear some jumper design or symbol. The main thing is that people within the four walls of the club, including supporters, feel accepted despite differences in ethnicity, nationality, religion, beliefs (or non-belief), or sexuality. By bringing people together into one squad that is working together with the aim of winning a premiership, it can be amazing how people with discernible differences can learn to bond together in mutual respect and friendship to achieve their goals while also changing their perception of one another in a unifying way while still maintaining mutual differences. Sometimes then you can become friends with and come to understand people who are different from you when it would never have been within your expectations.

I didn't mean it in a bad way. Are you speaking from experience as a Muslim, just out of interest?

Even among those that have no religion, very few approve of adultery.

Firstly, how do you know there is no supreme being that we all depend on for our very existence, and secondly, why do u assume that every religion has that supreme being as male? For what it's worth, in Islam God has has no gender and is unlike any (of God's) creations.

No I mentioned them to give an example of people with anti Lqbt views that have copped criticism both from within and outside there sport .

Incorrect. It’s absolutely not about ‘promoting’ being gay. It’s not a membership drive. It’s highlighting things like youth suicide … still for some reason (homophobia is my wild guess) prevalent in the gay community, and basically saying ‘hey … you are ok, we respect you as a human being.’ Which she says she does anyway, so again, not sure what the issue is. She’s not being asked to stand on a float at Mardi gra and prance around provocatively in her underwear.

What’s the LGBTI cause being promoted exactly? Is it simply the right to not be treated poorly because of where you put your private parts with a consenting adult? Hardly controversial is it?

Ken W. Why does Zrieka have to justify her actions by detailing the reasons behind her beliefs. She is entitled to her beliefs without having to broadcast the reasons for them. Wouldn't matter anyhow. Explaining one's thinking rarely makes a difference regardless of what side of the fence one sits. I presume you somehow believe your views to be more worthy of respect than Zreika's even if others wouldn't. All just a matter of opinion. P.S I am an agnostic but will defend the right of people to express their opinions without being attacked unless they promote violence or hatred.

Did I mention either of them?