'Don't think it helps being Australian': Eddie Jones reacts after Woodward slams him for 'pathetic macho stuff'

By Tony Harper / Editor

England’s Aussie coach Eddie Jones, staring down the barrel of another Six Nations fifth-placed finish, is coming under increasing pressure 18 months out from the World Cup, with Clive Woodward stepping up the the attacks on Tuesday.

Writing in his Daily Mail column, Woodward had a crack at Jones’ pre-match talk before the loss to Ireland last weekend. Jones, meanwhile, says his job is made harder by being an Australian in charge of the old rivals, while also going on the front foot ahead of their final match against France this week.

England lost prop Charlie Ewels within 82 seconds against Ireland, a situation Woodward felt was whipped up by Jones’ “ridiculous rhetoric”.

“They were found wanting and that is the only way to look at this match,” Woodward, the 2003 RWC winning coach wrote.

“There is no Monday morning meeting and England are on the plane home, with Jones once again blaming a referee for his own shortcomings.

“Why? Firstly we had all this pathetic macho stuff from Jones in the build-up about how England were going to play with a physicality and aggression that Ireland hadn’t seen before. Why even go there? Of course it’s going to be tough and torrid up front, it’s England against Ireland at Twickenham for heaven’s sake.

“It’s a given. It’s that kind of ridiculous rhetoric that probably contributed to (Charlie) Ewels’ dangerous challenge, which was rightly punished with a red card.

Mathieu Raynal shows the red card to England’s Charlie Ewels. (Photo by Bob Bradford – CameraSport via Getty Images)

“Keeping 15 players on the pitch is the No.1 requirement in knockout rugby because being able to play under pressure is coachable.

“Part of that flawed approach was also fuelled by Jones’ insistence that England be viewed as the underdogs.

“Eddie is what is often referred to in Australia as an ‘Aussie battler’ — he prides himself as that underdog figure who seems to think the world is against him.”

Jones has tried to turn the mind games onto France this week, saying they will be struggling with the pressure of being one win away from their first Grand Slam in 12 years.

“We just want to play well, we want to take it to them,” Jones, the England head coach, said. “We beat them in our last two games, so we’ve got a pretty good track record against them.

“For them to be playing for the grand slam — I remember going there in 2016 going for the grand slam [with England] and because it’s such a huge thing in European rugby, it does become something in their head. The only way we can make that live in their head a bit more is to play with such an intensity and such ferociousness that we put them on the back foot.”

Woodward suggested Jones’ approach was in ingrained, but not what was needed.

“I remember him from his playing days in Sydney, a small tough hooker with the Randwick club, who were perceived as the unfashionable team from a tough part of town, taking on my lot at Manly, who were seen as the city slickers and much more cosmopolitan, spending most of our time on the beach!” Woodward wrote.

“That streetfighter approach can only take you so far. It can work when you are clearly the minnows but England are not little guys who constantly need winding up.

“Now comes the challenge of playing Grand Slam-chasing France in Paris. In many ways it seems like a shot to nothing but there will also be pressure. A shock win could salvage England’s season but a defeat will probably see them finish fourth or even fifth.”

Jones, 62, told the BBC he knew what he was in for when he signed to take the team on after their near miss at the 2019 World Cup.

England finished fifth last year in the 6N and the same fate, depending on the results of theirs and other matches, could await this time, heaping pressure on him to hold his job.

“The longer you’re in the job, the more people probably don’t want you to be in the job,” he told BBC 5 Live. “I don’t think it helps being an Australian but that’s part of the deal. When I decided to do another cycle, I knew that would be more intense.”

“Most England fans would counter that Jones’s nationality matters less than his continuing ability to assemble a team that makes its most striking statements on the field,” wrote Robert Kitson in the Guardian.

“Having scored only two tries in three games against Scotland, Wales and Ireland, there are also those wondering if England’s idea of heading to Paris early this week to aid their acclimatisation for next year’s World Cup knockout phase is a shade presumptuous.”

Jones, however, feels he can find a way to unlock the French, whose defence coach Shaun Edwards is winning rave reviews.

“One thing I know is that there’s not a team in the world or in the history of the game that does not have a chink in their armour,” said Jones. “Every team has a chink. It is your ability to find and expose that chink which is going to be the key on Saturday.”

The Crowd Says:

2022-03-17T11:11:59+00:00

Check-side for the boundary

Roar Rookie


The story goes that Woodward had to move because the sound of the surf in his prestigious beach side house was too loud at night !!?

2022-03-17T11:08:26+00:00

Check-side for the boundary

Roar Rookie


I think that was Glen Ellas retirement game and Randwick won quite well. I recall shacking Steve Temple's hand when he was out on the pitch in tears ! RIP

2022-03-17T06:07:49+00:00

Khun Phil

Roar Rookie


A man after my own heart,Mick,a Woodies man.Lost count of the number of times I cursed the "galloping greens" from the club balcony at Milner!

2022-03-16T08:56:18+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


Yup.

2022-03-16T08:38:52+00:00

Mick Gold Coast QLD

Roar Guru


That's a cracker alright! Randwick were all class and style for years, the same coaches and the same personnel, unrelenting, excellent, consistent through the grades - if a first grader was injured his replacement from second grade fell easily into place and no-one knew the difference, they were as automatons. John Maxwell at No 8 was as tough as they came, with a boxer's face and an intimidating gaze, but they were always too busy winning the game to get involved in a blue. Michael Cheika was there learning his craft from John and he had plenty to back up his gobby manner on the field. Poidevin, Warwick Waugh, Ewen - they were all big, fit and strong but no-one called them on. Eddie was there from 1981 to 1991, their best combination I reckon, all big shin pads and always the dirtiest jersey - he just motored throughout every match. In 10 seasons from '65 - Randwick won 6 grand finals; from '75 - 6 grand final wins and 2 placed second; from '85 - 7 grand final wins, 2 placed second (on the field for 23 of 30 grand finals!); from '95 - 3 wins and one silver medal. They gave our Mighty Woods a sniff for about 15 minutes at Concord in '89 - we were convinced we were in with a good show, but no. ???? Now, poetic licence is a legitimate tool, but I say Sir Clive laid it on with a steel trowel in his piece! :stoked: I don't recall him at Manly in the second half of the '80s, but we didn't pay much attention to the northern beaches. Our boys went from their Catholic school nurseries to Colts and Grade at the Woods and Two Blues. Parramatta was then the only club that met his "tough part of town" description. Peter Kay was a favourite of mine - strong, strong, tough front rower.

2022-03-16T06:52:22+00:00

Khun Phil

Roar Rookie


Not an Eddie fan,nor a Woodward one but had to read twice the comment that Jones was a "tough little hooker with the Randwick club,who were perceived as the unfashionable team from a tough part of town".I have seen Randwick rugby club described as many things,but not that!

2022-03-16T01:36:21+00:00

Tim J

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You and I both Ken. :stoked:

2022-03-16T01:16:50+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Yes Mad, I’m always being diplomatic :happy:

2022-03-16T01:15:16+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Okay thanks. The Ellas thwarted the best made plans of mice and rugby men in the 80s.

2022-03-16T00:59:01+00:00

Tim J

Roar Rookie


They are the gold standard Muzzo.

2022-03-16T00:24:07+00:00

Carlos the Argie

Roar Guru


I’m estimating 84 or 85 or about. McQueen was his coach and they reached some final, which they lost to Randwick with the Ellas, if I recall well. Age, you know. Topo came at the end, me thinks.

2022-03-16T00:09:22+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


What year was that Carlos?

2022-03-16T00:08:57+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Yep true, as I, but I'll always remember the Ella Bros, as they were legends, playing on Coogee Oval.

2022-03-16T00:07:54+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Spoke to one of Clive’s cub mates last night. Clive was a centre who sometimes played 10, but there were other good 10s at Manly then. So he carried a comb, though arguable about how much he needed one.

2022-03-16T00:06:42+00:00

Muzzo

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Hahahaha Kent, they're not known for humour mate, they're ( the Poms) are known for their expertise in whinging!!!! lol :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2022-03-16T00:02:34+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Hey Chook!!!!Do they have, nursing homes in the pommieland???

2022-03-16T00:01:05+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Well maybe Madkiwi, they should change Woodwards name to ' wayward '. After all, isn't that what the Poms are known for?? whinging!!

2022-03-15T23:23:51+00:00

Kent Dorfman

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KnC - show him tapes of big Dallas in full flight, and the best docco ever "the Fibros and the Silvertails"

2022-03-15T22:39:43+00:00

Double Agent

Guest


I've never understood why it's called Randwick races when the track is in Kensington.

2022-03-15T21:55:23+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


Woodwards obviously jealous that Eddies got more hair on the top of his head (not much more - but more)

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