No room for David Noble’s spray in modern AFL

By Stuart Thomas / Expert

Everybody knew that the rebuild at North Melbourne was going to be a tough road to hoe, and potentially an exhausting one for the fans.

Stripping an AFL playing list back and restarting essentially from square one is a process not every club needs to undertake, yet a few will; and the pain in the faces and words of long-standing supporters is palpable while it takes place.

In recent times, Hawthorn, Sydney and Fremantle have managed to undertake a rebuilding process with some subsequent pain, yet without every really hitting absolute rock bottom (though the Hawks may do just that this year). Each has then popped its head back up out of the water relatively quickly, with promise around their future prospects clear for all to see.

Carlton, Brisbane, Melbourne and now North Melbourne have fared less fortunately, and all took slightly different approaches to clearing the shelves and finding the right mix of playing and coaching staff to re-instill hope and bring about eventual success.

Right now, the Kangaroos are living a period of pain which looks set to continue for some time yet, with a long journey required before returning to finals is even a topic up for discussion.

As such, coach David Noble has become increasingly frustrated at a season and a half of results that have seen his team claim the wooden spoon in 2021 and look more than half a chance to do so again this year.

His now-infamous verbal spray delivered to the playing group after the team’s 108-point loss to Brisbane in Round 3 spoke volumes about where he is at emotionally as the man charged with taking a club, one without much playing talent or experience, forward.

What we would all give to have been a fly on the wall in that dressing room, to hear the venom in the words he used; ones so severe he felt the need to apologise to his players just a few days later.

Reading between the lines and considering broad reports that Noble’s words had been ‘personal enough in nature’ it is likely the 54-year-old broke one of the most basic rules followed by most teachers, instructors, educators and coaches.

Call out the behaviour, and not the person.

No doubt Noble was scathing of poor efforts in 50/50 contests when the ball was there to be won against the Lions. I’m sure he also let the playing group know that their kicking was rubbish and fuelled by errant decisions, and that what they have served up a few times in recent history is simply not acceptable for a group of men hoping to compete at AFL level.

Sadly, and somewhere amongst what is likely to have been a tirade of epic proportions, Noble likely made comments that went beyond broad commentary on the group as a whole, and subsequently brought grown men to a state of shock and left at least a few feeling rather emotional, if reports on the aftermath are to be believed.

Copping a spray rarely receives attention, even in modern footy when they have become far less frequent: even rarer is the coach actually apologising to the group afterwards. Rather than the easy criticism of ‘soft’ Kangaroos – or the generation their younger players are part of, in some instances – let’s focus on why Noble felt the need to walk it back with his players, and where if anywhere the ‘line’ is for coaches.

The media was certain to run two clear lines in the aftermath. A few dinosaurs were always going to preach for a hardening up of the modern player, while others would be more sympathetic to the pressures experienced by these young athletes who work themselves to the point of exhaustion each week whilst under the scrutiny of a not always fair public eye.

Both, though, could mount an argument, for opposite reasons, that maybe Noble is not the man to be steering the ship.

History is littered with famous dressing-downs from some of the most famous and adorned figures in the game; players have long been verbally abused both privately and publicly by some men held in the highest of esteem by the sport.

Yet the often hidden mental health challenges of the 20th century, particularly for men, deserves the exact same discussion we are now having in regards to cultures of affirmation and support, as opposed to words promoting shame and embarrassment.

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True professionalism adds layers of stress and emotion to both the footballing and everyday lives of the players that make us smile each week. They deal with the media as best they can, work in the community, better themselves with educational courses and try to make their parents proud of them.

There is simply no place to single out any one of them personally in front of teammates, in a manner that leads to embarrassment or introversion, as it seems Noble did. No doubt, the coach did not set out to do so, instead feeling the need to vent after yet another frustrating performance.

However, as he has stated, he must be better and the culture of the dressing room side of the game needs reflecting upon by all of us.

Many thought demanding zero reaction or dissent when it came to umpires was just another example of ‘woke’ nonsense that affected the very fabric of the game; yet that appears to have been more easily solved than many believed. Indeed, as recent reports have shown, lower-level abuse of umpires, particularly female umpires, has reached a point where to not act at the highest level, where kids learn about the game from day dot, would have been irresponsible.

Some will suggest the same about the reaction to Noble’s spray. However, it too is potentially fixable in the immediate term, especially if all parties involved find common ground.

The Crowd Says:

2022-05-19T06:20:05+00:00

Willie

Roar Rookie


Yes, and Pittman contributed well. It wouldn't have been easy for anyone to be second ruck to Shaun Rehn ( a bit like being second ruck to Max Gawn), but Pittman did more than his bit over his career. I don't believe that Blight's spray made Pittman play any better, but in a small bubble like Adelaide it is carried by him forever.

2022-05-14T09:46:19+00:00

ScottD

Roar Guru


Stuart, it is a team game and if you don't do your job for the team then being called out for that in front of the team is absolutely appropriate. Having those sort of honest, frank and direct conversations is exactly the difference between champion teams and mediocre ones.

2022-05-14T00:29:02+00:00

Brendon the 1st

Roar Rookie


Each to their own, but if you meekly want to allow anyone to do anything without fear of consequence I think you'll find this world would be a much worse place than it currently is. If you can't take a bit of stick, cop a bit of embarrassment for things that you've done wrong, then perhaps you're the problem? A bit of honest feedback in front of peers is a good thing, honesty is a good thing, talking to someone rather than behind their back, which is eventually what's happens when we do things the new PC way (your way), is a good thing. People need to be more honest, not less. As an ex head chef, your way couldn't be further from reality, mate, let me tell you, when you're an hour into service and have 35 tickets up, there's no time to worry about someone's feelings. Sometimes people need a bit of a bake, especially young blokes, ya reckon Clarko didn't give a few in his time?

2022-05-13T22:33:46+00:00

Naughty's Headband

Roar Rookie


What else is he alluding to then?

2022-05-13T22:25:11+00:00

.kraM

Roar Rookie


Yeah, not quite.

2022-05-13T15:01:01+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Roar Rookie


Although the Logie would have more games, more goals with North. And he would not have to worry about giving way to Budweiser. It is an opportunity missed.

2022-05-13T14:40:41+00:00

ScottD

Roar Guru


Of course you can. We are simply challenging the assertion in the article that there is no place for an absolute bollocking and making the point that giving the players one for 10 minutes after a horrid loss isn’t a hanging offense. Personally I am satisfied that if the Captain publicly stated it was deserved and that no apology was necessary then criticism of the coach for it may miss the mark. The coach apologised. That doesn’t mean his comments were wrong or that he crossed the line. It just means he felt he should apologise – you don’t know why he did that and neither do I.

2022-05-13T11:12:20+00:00

PeteB

Roar Rookie


Yeah whatever. They looked like showing genuine improvement in the second half of last year. This year has been disappointing and unacceptable. They need to lift and if can’t cope with a bit of criticism need to find another line of work.

2022-05-13T11:04:07+00:00

Naughty's Headband

Roar Rookie


With pleasure: “Yet the often hidden mental health challenges of the 20th century, particularly for men, deserves the exact same discussion we are now having in regards to cultures of affirmation and support, as opposed to words promoting shame and embarrassment.” You’re welcome…so which sports did you coach?

2022-05-13T11:01:59+00:00

Naughty's Headband

Roar Rookie


I have no idea, I don’t know what he said.

2022-05-13T10:00:38+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


I definitely don't agree with personalising the issue but having the odd judicious spray is advantageous.

2022-05-13T09:56:04+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


I'll go on what you say.

2022-05-13T08:36:34+00:00

1dawg

Roar Rookie


Good on ya! I see where you’re coming from in regards to men’s mental health etc. I enjoy your articles and commentary on the Roar :thumbup:

AUTHOR

2022-05-13T08:36:30+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


So you're keen on a society that sees people singling out others in a manner that leads to embarrassment and introversion? I'm not mate and feel that men should still be capable of playing professional sport even if they have a sensitivity beyond the Neanderthal attitudes of the past.

AUTHOR

2022-05-13T08:27:20+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


No one mate. Just very supportive of the mental health of men and keen to see this sort of nonsense driven from the game.

AUTHOR

2022-05-13T08:25:41+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


You can tell a home truth without destroying someone emotionally, the two are not mutually exclusive. It is annoying me that comments such as the above are admitting that Noble realised he crossed a line yet also suggesting that he is therefore unable to lay down a clear marker. Far from the case.

AUTHOR

2022-05-13T08:21:53+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


Which.

AUTHOR

2022-05-13T08:21:38+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


Just quote me where I said people develop mental health issues thanks to a spray from the coach. I'll wait.

AUTHOR

2022-05-13T08:20:47+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


So tell me again exactly why Noble felt bad and the need to apologise. Because he appears to be from your school of thought but checked himself.

2022-05-13T06:01:09+00:00

Cam

Roar Rookie


Yep, you are pretty well spot on with your comments. I coach both junior and senior sport this past decade and both have their individual challenges, God knows from time to time I would love to spray them and a slow count to 10 in my head before addressing the group works wonders. I grew up in an era where the coach would often double-barrel the players and it took me a a while to work out that style of coaching doesn't work. There is a rule of thumb that I apply which I refer to it as the 80/20 rule. 80% of what comes out of my mouth needs to be positive reinforcement, 20% is constructive criticism with the emphasis on "constructive".

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