The Mo'unga myth and why it shows we deserve better from rugby commentators

By Highlander / Roar Guru

A couple of seasons ago, I exchanged posts on these boards with our expert and doyen Brett McKay about the need for rugby media to not only entertain but to educate.

Our game is way too complicated for its own good and provides its own barrier to new entrants, something the competitor sport in rugby league has over us in spades.

To capture the new fan we don’t really the fan-boy commentary we see when either the Brumbies or the Blues play at home, and we all know who the culprits are for those, but within 80 minutes the opportunity is there to improve the knowledge of the current fans and make things like scrums, mauls and why cut passes are generally a bad thing just that little bit clearer.

One of the reasons I like the writing here on The Roar is that people live up to their expert designations, good observations, clearly defined, well defended with examples and numbers and well explained in the main, while local biases are acknowledged and obvious.

I get the reasons for the networks, and these are the people who are paying the biggest chunk of the revenue for the product after all, to want things to be exciting (even if they’re not) and want the commentators to be creating heroes and hyping up major plays.

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But surely there is a duty to the existing audience to get things right, to be accurate, to have done your homework and enhance the spectacle for the informed and long-term supporter. After all, we are the people who pay for the merchandise, drive or fly miles to follow our teams (and take that commitment to international level), and, of course, we are the people who pay for the television subscriptions that make the whole thing possible in the first place.

This week, I heard a series of assertions from one an individual accepted as one of New Zealand’s leading rugby commentators – I see little value in naming the individual, but he is in every rugby supporter’s lounge (or loungeroom, depending on your domicile) – that were so far from what most people’s eyes will be telling them that I wonder if there is any performance review or challenge process, or do we just let broadcasters prattle on with their views, unencumbered by accuracy?

This example is particularly timely, as in my last piece on the differing game plans of Scott Robertson and Leon MacDonald versus the Brumbies, I noted some Opta statistics on Richie Mo’unga’s run numbers had been posted on Twitter and they were of such a degree they were worth expanding into a separate article prior to the finals series.

So timely is the opportunity that they are fine example of the need for accuracy in our leading commentators.
On The Breakdown this week, said protagonist made two observations.

The first was that Mo’unga has lost his running game, and second that his distribution has been poor, sitting back in the pocket, and propping before getting very lateral. No matter who your favoured player is for the All Blacks 10 shirt later on this year, you have to go out on a very long limb to get to these conclusions.

An examination of the running game assertion just doesn’t fit with the numbers Mo’unga is posting , and I did say these were a big deal and worth further investigation.

The Opta stats showed that Mo’unga was No.4 for tackle busts for the season to date; add in the Super Rugby stats that have currently have him fifth for defenders beaten and eighth for total offloads.

Worth noting in the tackle busts that what our eyes tell us to be true and that Timoci Tavatavanawai of Moana Pasifika leads the table.

Now, back to the accuracy of those who entertain and inform us on our great sport.

Fair to say I think that the raw numbers tell a story of a player who is having a great season with the ball in hand.

But the key factor for me is that in each of these categories, which are generally dominated by wings and fullbacks, Mo’unga is the first five-eighth in the entire competition represented on any of these top tens.

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The only No.10 – if he is having a poor season with his running game, then it’s not a good look for anyone else. Conclusive and inarguable, I would think.

The assertion that his distribution game is below standard as well doesn’t take long to crumble, either.

A quick look at the leading try scorers list shows Leicester Fainga’anuku on top with ten, and Sevu Reece and Will Jordan tied in second place with eight each. Either Bryn Hall has developed one hell of a pass since last season or the inside backs of the Crusaders are doing a pretty good job at distributing the ball the the fullback and wingers.

Just for the final nail in the coffin of our comments man’s assertions, rugbypass.com has Richie Mo’unga’s try assists year to date at 20!

Some would argue that state of being wrong is an absolute, but there are clearly varying degrees of how wrong one can be. It is wrong, for example, to describe a tomato as a vegetable, but it is more wrong to describe it as a battleship.

The assertions made above are firmly in the ‘tomato is a battleship’ category.

We are the paying public, the core of support for the television networks – we should be getting better, more accurate, quality observations.

A final observation.

Our game changes fast, law changes and tactics can seriously deliver a game that is significantly different, almost from year to year, so why do we persist in wheeling out blokes who played a game that is so different from today’s fare as to be almost irrelevant?

One reason I enjoy the observations of Ruby Tui and Honey Hireme when they are called upon is the recency of their playing careers.

Might be time to update the blokes side of the commentating desk with some players who have played the game when there wasn’t a lace in the ball.

The Crowd Says:

2022-06-01T01:46:25+00:00

Spew_81

Roar Rookie


Agree 100% there are almost limitless possibilities for rugby content. There could be a content creator for each Super Rugby team etc. As you say the content creator can pay for the clips. The owners of the footage need to get out of the 20th century model of owning the footage and providing the associated content. Imagine how much the Breakdown costs to produce: set, workers, and the presenters’ salaries. What a money pit.

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2022-06-01T01:24:25+00:00

Highlander

Roar Guru


I tried this with Fox Spew but hit a wall, you may recall I used to clip my own videos from games as use them to support the articles written. The great copyright god of the internet at the behest Super rugby swooped down and wiped all those videos out. One video on Sam Cane tackling out in front of the gainline that I know was used for coaching in NZ and had over 1000 views was taken down without a thought. I proposed that if guys are making money off the clips they use then they should pay for the content – If you are posting to promote the game and making nothing then Fox/Super Rugby should allow this – free of charge for those who follow some sort of registration process. Surely more thoughts/clips/discussion out there – the better

2022-06-01T01:04:21+00:00

Spew_81

Roar Rookie


Super Rugby/SAANZAR would be better off allowing non traditional media e.g. YouTubers to use their footage and take a cut of the add revenue. I would much rather watch the 1014 Rugby podcast than the Breakdown. The 1014 actually does analysis and makes predictions that can be tested; it’s a pity they don’t make content anymore. I would love to see a YouTube channel made by Highlander for instance; but it would be so much better if actual footage was allowed to be used.

2022-05-31T15:07:14+00:00

Poco Loco

Roar Rookie


Hi Highlander, thanks for an excellent piece and I agree commentators who live on their laurels as explayers need to get the boot if they are unable to read stats and disect the moden game in their commentary. It would be wonderful during the break if Stan has a short piece on rugby rules and or tactics to help educate the new followers of rugby. It might also educate some comentators :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: cheers. As an aside, can we run a rating by Roarers on commentators at the end of the Super Rugby Pacific Series and send the results to Stan with a request that those who do not get an average rating of 5 out of 10 over say 6 categories be replaced. Cheers

AUTHOR

2022-05-30T22:42:38+00:00

Highlander

Roar Guru


Concur on the chummy little bubble they operate in - if you never challenged, you never improve

2022-05-30T22:32:39+00:00

moaman

Roar Guru


Might be time to update the blokes side of the commentating desk with some players who have played the game when there wasn’t a lace in the ball. There are many things that irritate me these days and not just commentators but let's stick to them for now as I am involved in some important jury -duty that Geoff Parkes is awaiting the outcome of..... I have thought for years that commentators, just like fans, forget to upgrade their software often enough. This is particularly the case when a particular favourite is involved. (Jacko, I'm talking to you! :happy: ) Players are allowed to exist in a bubble created back in their heyday and commentators anoint them with a cloak of infallibility. I had a little chuckle the other day when Will Jordan (unexpectedly) spilled a high ball and the commentator at the time almost went into cardiac arrest switching his script as quickly as he was obliged to. Just like pack weights should be automatically adjusted when subs are on or a forward is carded, people need to accept that time goes by and a certain player may not be as fast or as good as he/she once was. Personally, I think current commentators are too chummy with players and too busy hyping up the games to offer much, if any, real constructive criticism. I get it, it is a product, but it is disappointing all the same.

2022-05-30T22:05:18+00:00

Paulo

Roar Rookie


Obviously I’m bias, but I think the Crusader boys on here are all pretty good for the most part. At least I think Pilferer, Tim, and myself are all pretty reasonable… maybe we’re not?

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2022-05-30T07:46:04+00:00

Highlander

Roar Guru


I love that Good tangent

2022-05-30T06:46:21+00:00

John Foster

Guest


Very interesting and backed by stats. You are so right about fan boy comments by some commentators.

2022-05-29T20:06:00+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


Tomato battleship! :laughing: https://www.dreamstime.com/concept-proper-nutrition-two-cucumbers-as-waves-two-tom-concept-proper-nutrition-two-cucumbers-as-waves-two-image122556270

2022-05-29T13:37:03+00:00

CUW

Roar Rookie


peeps shud listen to some of the Gallagher commentary and some of the URC even - will get a perspective why the following is more. the issue i see with super rugger commentry as a neutral is that the people involved have their own bias that stops them from looking at the flash points objectively - like a tip tackle ot a knockon try or a contentios ref decision. so its more like an after game football analysis with two supporters of the two teams trying to see who can trash the other ! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2022-05-29T12:39:36+00:00

Clark

Guest


I think out of all the ex ABs currently given airtime. Jeff seems to be one of the only ones who speaks with even the slightest piece of common sense. Giving Kirwan so much airtime to let him just go off on delusions and be a Blues cheerleader is very low quality viewing.

AUTHOR

2022-05-29T11:11:40+00:00

Highlander

Roar Guru


Yeah SBW not great for my newbie argument is it

AUTHOR

2022-05-29T11:11:02+00:00

Highlander

Roar Guru


It’s a self protecting little bubble - rarely do we hear fellow commentators call each other out, despite ample opportunity It’s the lack of preparation that irks me Ken

AUTHOR

2022-05-29T11:04:40+00:00

Highlander

Roar Guru


Point taken Phantom Kinda felt good at the time though

2022-05-29T10:23:54+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


Uncalled for and beneath you.

2022-05-29T09:20:04+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Agree CUW, regarding Merhtens. He is funny. And not pushing an agenda. He seems like a genuine citizen of the world, open about his slight ‘kiwi’ bias, but genuinely open to objective reality. I like him. He does a good job.

2022-05-29T07:49:29+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Spot on Lander. The game is one thing. The narrative about the game and its ‘meaning’, the inter crossing trajectories, the celebrations, wakes and philosophical resolutions are where the game lives outside the 80. Those charged, and blessed, with the ‘keeping of the myth’ need be accountable to the thousands (or millions) who look to these narratives for confirmation of what is true and good. TV fame, or past glory as a player, are not substitutes for journalistic neutrality and open minded intellectual rigour.

2022-05-29T07:40:28+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Asserting without evidence when in a position of media influence is dreadful for every honourable living thing (and rugby). Too right, Pinetree. :silly:

2022-05-29T07:38:58+00:00

CUW

Roar Rookie


TV commentary is quite silly I like Merhtens becoz he tries to be funny - at least that takes the boredom out but then a recent retiree from male side - SBW is so DUH !!!

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