Burning World Cup questions ahead of Australia versus England

By A.J. Woodgate / Roar Rookie

This series against England marks a turning point in Deve Rennie’s tenure as Wallabies coach.

In international rugby you typically get four years to prove your worth as a coach. That’s one World Cup cycle to build a team capable of winning.

Yes, the Wallabies were in a bit of a state at the end of Michael Cheika’s time and granted, the first year was highly disrupted.

But the expectation remains that Rennie rebuilds, creates depth and brings a World Cup hopeful team to France in September next year.

The first Test of 2022 is where the proverbial rubber meets the road.

Ideally throughout 2020 and 2021, Rennie will have tested out his depth and game plan and now in 2022 he has landed on a squad the he believes can execute a strategy capable of bringing the William Webb Ellis trophy home.

Of course, there will be tinkering and there will be injuries. But with only 17 Tests between now and France, this period is about refining combinations and game plans, not soul searching.

So what is this Test series going to teach us about the Wallabies and their hopes in France next October?

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The overseas players
The most obvious question revolves around which players Rennie is going to bring back.

As the rules currently stand, three players not contracted with Rugby Australia can be brought into the squad. For this series it is Quade Cooper, Marika Koroibete and Samu Kerevi.

Kerevi and Cooper both have deals expected to expire in May or June 2023, so theoretically could sign with an Australian Super Rugby team for 2024 and no longer be considered overseas players.

It is much more likely for Kerevi than Cooper. Koroibete, on the other hand, is contracted for another two seasons in Japan.

It is an interesting trio of players to bring back and it gives us some insight into how Rennie sees his team shaping up at the World Cup.

Kerevi and Koroibete are two of the Wallabies’ truly world-class players and would probably be included in any Test side.

Quade Cooper had a redemption story as he lead the Wallabies through an impressive Rugby Championship campaign.

But is this the wisest way to spend our three overseas selections?

With only three international slots available, you want to use them where you are going to get the most bang for your buck. Is ten, 12 and 14 the area of greatest need for the Wallabies?

The general consensus seems to be that the Wallabies’ second-row depth is the most important area of need. And while Koroibete is truly world-class, including the likes of Rory Arnold or Will Skelton and replacing Koroibete in the starting team with a Jordan Petaia is arguably more of a net positive.

Similarly, with the emergence of Tane Edmed this season, the continued development of Noah Lolesio, and the steady presence of James O’Connor, it could be argued that the Wallabies may not need Quade Cooper.

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Rennie has pointed out that he initially intended on including Izack Rodda in the squad but injury ruled him out and presumably he had already arranged for the three backs to return, making it too difficult to now go and get any of Rory Arnold, Will Skelton or Adam Coleman.

So this decision shows us that Kerevi, Koroibete and Cooper are central to how Rennie wants to play and that he expects to be able to cover lock with talent at home, or perhaps one or two of Kerevi or Cooper will have returned to Australia, opening up another slot.

Starting with Kerevi, there is no doubt he has to be in the squad any time he is available. While you might not think that inside centre is a critical position, it is with the way Kerevi plays it.

The Wallabies are an entirely different team with him on the field. His ball-carrying ability is probably the best in the world.

And it is not just his raw power, he has outstanding feet. His ability to get over the gain line every time he carries on first phase puts enormous pressure on opposition defences and creates the bulk of the Wallabies’ attacking opportunities.

Rennie’s game plan will be entirely built around this man’s go-forward and so it should be, because it cannot be stopped.

Cooper’s inclusion is a decent indication that Rennie sees him as the primary playmaker for the next two years. He had his best success with Cooper at ten and truthfully, Lolesio and Edmed are not ready for Test rugby.

Koroibete is one of the world’s best wingers but is it wise using such a valuable resource on this position?

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Honestly, it was quite surprising to see three backs called into the squad and no second rower.

If Kerevi and Cooper both stay overseas next season, it will be very interesting to see if Rennie can justify using his last overseas slot on a winger, no matter how good.

The lineout
Speaking of overseas players, second row is most clearly the area of need for the Wallabies. The squad for this series includes five locks, three of which are uncapped, and one of whom is more of a back-five utility player (Jed Holloway).

The biggest frustration in this area is that there is no shortage of excellent Australian locks, they all just play overseas.

The most obvious choices are Rory Arnold and Will Skelton who are in France, and Adam Coleman and even Rob Simmons, who both play for London Irish.

We can expect Matt Philip to start alongside Darcy Swain. It is probably not the series to be experimenting with Nick Frost. The older but uncapped Cadeyrn Neville could be called upon because of his enormous 202-centimetre, 123-kilogram frame.

Right behind lock as an area of concern is hooker. Brandon Paenga-Amosa started 13 of the Wallabies’ 14 Tests last year, but joined French side Montepellier on a two-year deal after last year’s spring tour.

Six different players wore the number 16 jersey as his back-up last year. This leaves a lot of uncertainty in a position that is vital to the functioning of both set pieces.

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Dave Porecki, Folau Fainga’a and Lachlan Lonergan are this squad’s hooking corps with the uncapped Porecki being the presumptive starter as the most reliable thrower of the group.

How the lineout functions in this series will go a long way in shaping how Rennie proceeds towards the World Cup. 

England make for an intimidating lineout and it is not impossible that English dominance here completely unravels the Wallabies.

If the Wallabies are entirely uncompetitive at lineout time, it might force Rennie’s hand when it comes to overseas selections.

The scrum
Beyond hooker, the Wallabies’ scrum looks like it is ready to rock and roll. No one is going to mistake it for the world’s best but we could see Wallabies dominance in this series.

Taniela Tupou is coming off a fitness set back and is questionable for the first Test. Ideally you have to think Rennie wants him to start as there is no player like him, but he has been so good as a finisher recently for the Wallabies, maybe that is where he is best suited.

Angus Bell is progressing really nicely too and if he can continue this trajectory, he could play a big role for the Wallabies at the next World Cup.

Prop seems to be an area where Rennie can rest easy, now it is just about facilitating the development of Bell and Tupou.

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They would probably be the preferred starting duo if they can get to their potential, getting reps and building chemistry, and hopefully we do not see too much decline in the older statesmen of James Slipper and Scott Sio.

The back row
This is another area where Rennie will fancy his charges to get a job done. This is actually a fascinating test for the Wallabies’ back row.

At this point in time, the debate about the best back row in world rugby is probably between England and South Africa.

It is fair to assume Michael Hooper and Rob Valetini are rusted onto the team sheet, but Rennie still needs to figure out who fills the third spot and what the configuration is.

Harry Wilson is the bright hope of the future at number eight. But Wilson has barely featured for the Wallabies since last year’s France series and was left at home during last year’s spring tour for development purposes.

He has had a strong year for the Reds so it will be interesting to see if Rennie gives him the number eight spot this series.

If he gets the nod, it is a strong indication he sees his potential as a ball carrier being invaluable to the Wallabies at the World Cup.

The other option is Rob Leota, who started all four of the Wallabies’ spring tour Tests. Leota offers a nice complement to Valetini and Hooper as a big-bodied workhorse.

He is sure to be there at the World Cup. If Leota starts all three Tests, it is hard to see how Wilson will unseat him without an injury.

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Centre
Centre is far from a position of concern for the Wallabies. Rennie is blessed with exceptional depth.

Kerevi will be starting at 12. But who starts at 13? Len Ikitau is the only true outside centre in the squad and should be the starter given his form for club and country recently and has plenty of experience playing along side Kerevi.

So are Hunter Paisami and Izaia Perese simply depth pieces or impact players? Does Jordan Petaia get consideration at 13?

The back three
Speaking of Jordan Petaia, Rennie has some decisions to make around the make-up of the back three.

Koroibete will start on one wing but with Tom Banks leaving for Japan next year, who is going to take over that position?

It seems very unlikely Tom Banks would be in the mix to return. He is 11 Tests short, which he certainly could reach this year, but if Rennie favours other options he may not be eligible.

Even if he is eligible, would he be a priority to bring back?

Petaia is almost certainly not ready to play 15 at Test level, but he is almost certainly the option with the highest potential.

Is Rennie brave enough to give him the experience and hope that over the next 15 Tests, he can stay healthy and develop into a Test-class fullback?

Bear in mind he will have another full Super Rugby season to learn the position.

Andrew Kellaway could be an option at fullback but that feels like a band-aid solution rather than a long-term option.

And he has been so good on the wing. If Rennie sticks with Banks, it might be because he sees an option outside the squad as the man for the job at the 2023 World Cup. 


The Crowd Says:

2022-07-04T22:27:59+00:00

Dandaman

Roar Rookie


You did say god forbid Beale, possibly just delete him entirely... :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2022-07-04T22:26:54+00:00

Dandaman

Roar Rookie


Especially for one in Europe where a lot of these guys play and are used to the grounds, set up, etc.

2022-07-04T21:52:06+00:00

Dandaman

Roar Rookie


GJ excellent response. Recently there are a lot of comments supporting Rennie and glossing over the issues with the current set up. While I think he gets the majority of his selections correct there are always gaps so we are not as close to being a complete team as we should be. IMO we should be running a territory/defense based game if we are going to trouble the top teams with physical forwards and class out wide to keep the score board ticking over. When I look at aspects of the wallabies games like their management of territory, use of contested kicks, physicality on defense and exits they are not achieving a pass in these areas. We can resolve the set piece issues, they are niggles rather than critical and the solutions are available. These other issues are still to be resolved.

2022-07-02T11:07:51+00:00

GJ

Roar Rookie


Skelton also shores up the scrum which is weak as predicted.

2022-07-02T11:06:38+00:00

GJ

Roar Rookie


I think you want to reconsider your analysis mate as you are completely wrong. 1) not right as Ireland not won a World Cup. 2) They are only not in team cause of Rennie. 3) Point remains on Pone for the competition. 4) Rassie made it a condition of taking the role. That’s what Rennie should have done. Completely open to him to do that as the point was under consideration when he joined but he’s a clown and believes in keeping players locally. Only works when game is no 1 like NZ or England. Rennie agreed to it.

2022-07-01T13:34:51+00:00

The Ferret

Roar Rookie


I can see them upping the quota of OS players being upped for next years World Cup. Why would Dave be using Banks now if he knows he will be unavailable next year? Again the tin foil hat is on but something is going to go down. I think the door won’t be wide open but maybe upping the number to 6 OS player

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2022-07-01T12:25:50+00:00

A.J. Woodgate

Roar Rookie


Yeah he isnt a lineout option because of his weight. Like anything it is a trade off. Seklton at his best, the physicality is worth that trade off, just need to pick a jumping 6, and maybe that option does not exist, Holloway, Swinton. But when he is playing well he is hugely influential around the park. Also don't underestimate his lifting ability, he can lift players much higher than others can. Its small but something. Simmons is old and I wouldn't be bringing him back but I trust him more than Frost at this point, but agreed need to give him a go eventually.

2022-07-01T10:45:40+00:00

Tez

Roar Rookie


I agree with Arnold but not Skelton .... yes I know Skelton is an occasional lineout target for La Rochelle, but that is very occasional. If he is one of your locks then you effectively limit your lineout which is so very important to win. Skelton did very little when drafted in last year, but Arnold did a little more, and both had very limited time to get used to the calls and style of play. Quite simply Coleman is doing bugger all and Simmons is now a bit old.

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2022-07-01T09:27:59+00:00

A.J. Woodgate

Roar Rookie


Each to their own but in my opinion the way Skelton (red cards aside) and Arnold are playing right now they are clearly Australias best two locks. Coleman not far behind. Simmons by far the best lineout operator of the group. I love Holloway as a player, but he is too small to be our starting test lock. I know he is the same height as Itoje, but both Lawes and Hill are over 2m tall. And Itoje is an athletic freak.

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2022-07-01T09:24:30+00:00

A.J. Woodgate

Roar Rookie


Yeah it is still minimum 30 tests.

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2022-07-01T09:20:17+00:00

A.J. Woodgate

Roar Rookie


You are 100% right, and their depth there is impressive. The Irish backrow is decent too although they keep selecting O'Mahony, I assume primarily for his Lineout work and his best days around the ground are well behind him.

2022-07-01T07:49:01+00:00

Double Agent

Guest


Absolutely. For the first 3 years of the cycle say that's not gonna happen to discourage players going OS then just spring it a couple of months before the Cup!

2022-07-01T04:21:07+00:00

numpty

Roar Rookie


You almost get everything wrong. 1) Ireland has shown ball in hand can work at intl level. 2) Arnold/Skelton weren't available for the June internationals. 3) pone is injured and has been most of the season. 4) RA decides on the OS player cap, not Rennie.

2022-07-01T03:42:18+00:00

Wigeye

Guest


Tez for me i agree with your post until you mention Beale in the last part for purely the same reasoning as your main part. Bluntly cull cull cull the dead Wood. Reward reward reward,build build build,take the 3 take the 3 take the 3. Wcups there for the taking from a biasd kiwi. Besok Will have my biasd allblack cap and Biasd Jersey on if it still fits and im backing the willabys in a close test if qc plays at least 70 minutes and allblacks of course over irish :rugby: hardly convinced by what's up in abs camp

2022-07-01T02:29:09+00:00

mzilikazi

Roar Pro


Thanks for a second article in one day. AJW. Big effort ....well done !

2022-07-01T02:27:50+00:00

mzilikazi

Roar Pro


Good post, GJ. Agree fully on scrums. "Rennie also had the chance to scrap the OS player rules like Rassie did and he didn’t." Was it Rennie or RA ? I honestly don't know. But that shambles of a situation must be sorted....any Australian qualified player anywhere be considered.

2022-07-01T00:46:15+00:00

Tez

Roar Rookie


I cannot agree to Skelton, Coleman and Simmons. Seriously ??? Right now we have Philip, Swain, Neville, Frost, Rodda, Holloway plus a few young guns in Blythe and Smith. Gee, how many locks do you want? Yes 15 is a problem. I can't see Banks making the RWC squad, it is limited to 30 players, unless there is a rule change. Therefore our 15 options could be Petaia, Campbell, Hodge, Kellaway or god forbid Beale .... but I will throw up another option being Ben Donaldson.

2022-06-30T23:07:17+00:00

Dean

Guest


I didn't understand the reference to Banks being "11 Tests short". I thought the overseas player rule was simply limited to a maximum of 3 players now, and the number of Tests played was no longer relevant. Is there still a minimum Tests requirement as well?

2022-06-30T21:27:07+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Should probably create a RWC year exception for the overseas player rule.

2022-06-30T19:46:31+00:00

Mungo69

Roar Rookie


Nice article. In the conversation around the best back rows I think you may have forgotten the French trio. After watching the 6N they are the best balanced and effective trio.

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