'I'm all about education': Roberts keen to meet Sea Eagles seven over pride jersey boycott

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Openly gay NRL great Ian Roberts says he’s keen to meet with the seven Manly players who are choosing to sit out the club’s round 20 game rather than wear a new jersey celebrating LGBTQI inclusion.

Jason Saab, Josh Aloiai, Josh Schuster, Tolutau Koula, Christian Tuipulotu, Haumole Olakau’atu, and Toafofoa Sipley have cited religious concerns with the Sea Eagles’ pride design, with rainbow stripes replacing their jersey’s usual white hoops.

The players say they were not consulted about the design before it was unveiled to the public on Sunday night.

While playing for Manly in 1995, Roberts, now 56, came out as gay and remains the only Australian male professional rugby league player to do so.

“I fully respect those players who are choosing not to play and their right not to play with their religious beliefs,” Roberts said.

“It’s such a delicate, difficult subject matter because you don’t want to be disrespectful to people and their beliefs.

Ian Roberts (Anton Want/Getty Images)

“I’m all about education … I would love, given the opportunity, to be able to sit down at a table with those guys and just have an open conversation with them, to try to explain what a pride round means, particularly for the LGBTQIA+ community, what it means to us.”

Roberts said making those with religious beliefs feel isolated was the last thing he hoped a game celebrating inclusion would do.

“It isn’t a thing of exclusivity. It’s just about welcoming and saying to the LGBTQIA+ community, you are part of the greater community and you are welcome here,” he said.

Jason Saab celebrates scoring a try. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Roberts said lives could be saved if those with differing views held open discussions.

“I’ve lost friends to suicide and I’ve seen the consequences of what homophobia, transphobia, and all the phobias can do to people,” he said.

“I don’t want to start quoting the terrible statistics that we know about the LGBTQIA+ community and self-harm. But those are the types of consequences that come when there is pushback against stuff like (the inclusion jersey). This is what discrimination can do.”

Roberts said he was heartened by the Sea Eagles’ decision to persist with wearing the jersey, and thanked coach Des Hasler and captain Daly Cherry-Evans for fronting the media to affirm the club’s commitment to inclusion.

“I thought their authenticity, their sincerity, was wonderful,” he said. “(Hasler) did the right thing in saying they got a few things wrong (by not consulting the players) … that was very brave.”

Hasler said he planned on speaking with Roberts soon.

“I personally played with Ian Roberts and wholeheartedly admire his contribution to the game, and also society,” Hasler said.

“The role he has played at our club, in the NRL and the community cannot be understated.”

Meanwhile, Peter V’landys has revealed he is open to following in the path of other sports and introducing an inclusion round for the NRL in future seasons.

Manly’s LGBTQI jersey is the first of its kind in the NRL, with V’landys admitting surprise that the Sea Eagles had chosen to use the design for this week’s Women in League round.

But with no other club’s adopting such colours, the ARL Commission chairman is open to a more unified approach next year.

Asked if he would be open to the addition of an Inclusion round to go along with the Women in League and Indigenous rounds, V’landys was clear.

Jason Saab celebrates a try with teammates. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

“Absolutely. We are the greatest game for all, not just for a select few. For all,” V’landys said at the Women in League launch.

“If we recognise those people absolutely, I have no problem for that.”

The AFLW held a Pride Round earlier this year, prompting GWS player Haneen Zreika to sit out a game rather than wear a specially-designed jersey.

Adelaide United hosted a Pride game in the A-League last summer, while the English Premier League supports the rainbow laces campaign.

But as yet, there is no such initiative from the NRL with Manly the first team in the game’s 114-year history to wear such a design.

“We are very proud that we are a game for everybody,” V’landys said.

Christian Tuipulotu celebrates a try with Tolu Koula. (Photo by Mark Evans/Getty Images)

“That’s why I am in this game, because I had a difficulty in being accepted as a migrant, and rugby league accepted me.

“It was inclusive back then and it is inclusive now. It is important that every man and woman can go to a game and they feel as included as everyone else.”

Any such round would likely need significant consultation with players, while also posing the risk of withdrawals such as those at Manly.

But V’landys said that would not faze him, and he would not judge players for standing down.

“Every player who plays the game is aware of our policy. If they want to take that stance so be it,” he said.

“But we’re not ever going to take a backward stance in our inclusive policy.

Christian Tuipulotu, Tolu Koula and Daly Cherry-Evans celebrate the winger’s try. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

“We’re all humans. We’re all equal and the same. That community should be treated like the rest of us. They are no different. 

“And for anyone who wants to make them different, I feel sorry for them. Because we are all the same. Respect each other, we are a human race. 

“Rugby league will always stand up for that.”

The Crowd Says:

2022-07-28T07:40:28+00:00

SPM

Roar Rookie


It’s not pride weekend it’s women in league round that has been overshadowed here

2022-07-28T04:45:36+00:00

Noosa Duck

Roar Rookie


well I suggest the game may be dead before me Mushi. I am not pandering to anything It was a simple question. The game e see today is not really "Rugby League" not even close to the rules of the game. It is a mishmash.

2022-07-28T00:52:25+00:00

Jacko

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Why is that different to the G Card Roberts is playing? Both have cards that start with G eh!

2022-07-28T00:49:31+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Haha the big difference is POINTSBET pays their wages. Pride weekend doesnt. When did betting become banned for religious people?

2022-07-28T00:44:59+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Yeah but they only had 7 available. :laughing: :laughing:

2022-07-28T00:43:02+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


What makes you think there is only 1 god? I believe in cars and there is many different ones. I believe in sport and there are many different ones.

2022-07-28T00:41:13+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


When were they asked to wear a jumper supporting gambling?

2022-07-28T00:35:15+00:00

Dave

Guest


The old adage of "any news is good news" is such a boomer mentality. How many jerseys did they have to begin with Rob? Not a very good argument when you don't have the numbers

2022-07-28T00:32:45+00:00

Dave

Guest


For every one that is taking part in social issues, there's even more that aren't. Sure, brand attachment is great. Probably wouldn't call dividing your customer base as successful brand attachment. But could be wrong Also not sure you know what the definition of ambivalence is

2022-07-27T05:23:37+00:00

thomas c

Guest


The problem would still stand. There are any number of communities represented in league and - as the NRL is quick to point out and celebrate - many of them have diverse cultural backgrounds. There are any number of places people could immigrate from which would come with cultural values that aren't super into the LGBTQ thing. (as of 21, there were about 70 countries where being gay was still illegal and a cluster where it was punishable by death). Getting him in a room with the players might be one thing. But they might need him to have a talk with their parents or priest or imam or whatever. I just think it opens the door to a scenario where you could have a young player (and the NRL allows teens in) who doesn't have an issue personally being forced to risk ostracism from their family and community. A cruel irony would be if a player who was privately gay was fired for refusing to make a public statement.

2022-07-27T04:24:52+00:00

Rob

Guest


It's worked out pretty well for Manly. They are being talked about all across the country and their pride jersey sold out in a matter of hours.

2022-07-27T01:10:09+00:00

Dean

Roar Rookie


Don't forget that there is a lot of media pumping the air into this story. Roberts seems like a thoroughly decent and somewhat reserved character - I doubt this began with him rushing forward to air his views, this would come from someone in the media reaching out to him first.

2022-07-26T23:11:23+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


:crying:

2022-07-26T23:10:42+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Third?

2022-07-26T22:47:56+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


Given this instance is seven players at the club he played for, probably not, especially since many of her teammates are rainbow and they did talk about it together

2022-07-26T22:44:26+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


I enjoyed the first one as well. 2nd one not so much.

2022-07-26T22:14:02+00:00

KenW

Roar Rookie


I'm completely on board with the pride jersey and what it stands for, but this is one that's popped up all over the place. Islam doesn't like gambling and alcohol, pretty sure the Hindu's don't like gambling either. The Christians are fine with both of those things. Well most of them, some of them aren't fans but they aren't top level sins. In His infinite and mysterious wisdom God seems to have given different rules to different peoples, at different times and different places. Often contradictory and with penalties of death. He should really look into that, it's caused a few issues over the years.

2022-07-26T18:53:30+00:00

Noel

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I think almost everything that could be said, has been said. But that won't stop my two cents! Funnily enough, Ian Roberts has actually taken, arguably, a very Christian view. Roberts does not agree at all with the stance taken by these men, but he offers to engage in conciliatory discourse. "Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins. Offer hospitality to one another without grumbling." 1 Peter 4:8. There are at least seven other similar references in the New Testament. Maybe having a quick read of your own source material might help open your eyes. Tolerance and inclusivity always have been pillars of Christianity. Your faith ain't the the problem. Your Church is. No one is asking you to 'promote homosexuality' any more than you are being asked to 'promote alcohol' or 'promote gambling'. As Roberts says, it's about recognising everyone has a place, and everyone can and should be loved, even if you disagree with them. That is a blunt way to approach a complex issue, but, there, I said it. Now can we please please please get back to talking footy? It's actually why I come here...

2022-07-26T17:15:47+00:00

U

Roar Rookie


Did he also want to educate that female football player who recently took a similar stand?

2022-07-26T17:08:11+00:00

U

Roar Rookie


It’s okay guys. They should just identify as any other religious group but Christianity and people will make excuses for these players

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