'Dog's breakfast' handling, 'seriously lame' players and a boycott: Manly fans have their say on Pride jersey

By Mike Meehall Wood / Editor

Manly fans have had their say on their club’s Pride-themed jersey, with the bulk of supporters throwing their weight behind their campaign.

The Roar spoke to a bunch of fans at 4 Pines Park on Thursday night about the initiative, which has been met with controversy and acclaim in equal measure.

Seven players – Haumole Olakau’atu, Josh Aloiai, Tolutau Koula, Christian Tuipulotu, Toafofoa Sipley, Josh Schuster and Jason Saab – have pulled out of the opening fixture of Women in League Round as they say the jersey conflicts with their religious and cultural beliefs.

Within half an hour of the gates opening, the Pride jerseys on sale at the ground had all but sold out and plenty of fans could be seen wearing them around 4 Pines Park.

Mark, wearing a box-fresh Pride jersey, said that it was a confusing week for the club, but presented an opportunity for the club and the game to move forwards.

“When I first saw it in the media, I forgot all about the Women in League Round,” he said.

“I thought ‘what a good idea’, and it doesn’t look too bad. Then it all blew up in the next few days, so I got one to support the club.

“Dessie and DCE at the press conference, they handled it really well and I thought I could show some support for them. You’ve got to show up good or bad. Something good will come of this.

“Do we want to go backwards or do we want to take the opportunity to look forwards? We’re all in this stadium together, we share it together and we breathe the same air.

“It’s our opportunity to have our Rosa Parks moment and take a big step forward. I hope something good comes of it.”

Mark admitted that the whole affair had not been handled well by the club, and said that he supported the players’ right not to play.

“The way it was handled was a dog’s breakfast, with the players pulling out in a critical game,” he said.

“I fully support that, it’s their right, but it’s supposed to be inclusive. I thought I’d go buy a jersey to support the club, the coaching staff, the players that are playing and the seven that are not.

“We’re all in this game together and once you run past that white line, everyone is equal on the football field.”

Ava, Emilia and Jade had just bought theirs and were not happy with the seven players who have chosen to skip the Roosters match.

“We’re not impressed,” they said. “It’s seriously lame. They need to pull their heads in. If it was up to me, they would be playing.

“They go out to the pubs when that’s against their religion and the betting stuff, but they can’t wear a jersey with a bit of a rainbow. It’s a uniform. Put it on and play the game.

“We felt compelled to go the merch stand today,’ they said. “I wanted to get the Pride jersey. We support the cause. I was pretty chuffed to hear we were the first to do it. Now’s the time.

“The NRLW is definitely ahead. If they did it right, it would have been a good integration into Women in League Round, if the management was better around the jersey.

Naturally, there were heightened views on both sides, and one Manly fan told The Roar that he would not be watching the game in protest.

Manly fans show their colours at 4 Pines Park. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

“I’ve been a Manly fan for over 45 years,” said Robby, who owns a barber shop bedecked in Sea Eagles memorabilia.

“It’s been handled extremely poorly by the club and the management. I refuse to watch the game tonight because my belief is the same as the players’ belief.

“Rugby league is about everybody coming together, but I don’t necessarily have to wear something that is against what I believe in.”

Manly CEO Scott Penn released a late statement, hours before the game, doubling down on his club’s stance and backing the club to wear it again in 2023.

“The Manly Warringah Sea Eagles represent inclusiveness,” he said.

Jason Saab celebrates scoring a try with teammates. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

“We do not discriminate between an individual’s race, religion, gender, disability, sexual orientation or anything else that we should be celebrating collectively as an evolved society.

“But whilst the intention of why we wanted to do this was authentic – and still is – we must learn from how the message was lost in translation through the process of implementation.

“I accept that our own genuine narrative of why we wanted to celebrate inclusiveness has been lost.

“Our promotion of inclusiveness – and why we were doing it – needed to start more broadly internally – with all staff and players engaged before it was communicated publicly.

“We have learned lessons from this and we hope others may learn lessons from this also, but we will make no apologies for why we were motivated to do it.

“I have read a lot of the commentary this week before arriving back in Sydney today. Some of it is fair, some is not.

“But I accept that Manly Warringah Sea Eagles now has the job to unite its club, players, supporters and become the leader of inclusiveness that we whole-heartedly desire to be.”

The Crowd Says:

2022-08-25T15:43:06+00:00

81paling

Roar Rookie


Jesus would have played for the Bears so no he never would of worn a Manly jersey.

2022-08-25T15:40:30+00:00

81paling

Roar Rookie


This was Women in League round, it had nothing to do with Gay Pride. Pride is a different cause so put it on a different week after consulting players. Well done to the marketing department here for ruining the clubs shot at finals. Des has done the best he can, clearly there's a cynical marketing team looking to exploit who ever or what ever they can to get dollars. This was women in League round, not LGBT round if they felt so strongly about that cause they should of done it on a different date.

2022-07-29T09:29:43+00:00

Just call me Campo

Roar Rookie


yeah whatever. But they are fine with a betting agency all over the jersey. And I believe its made if more than 1 fabric. And they are covered in tattoos. All these things are forbidden in the bible. Seems like hypocrisy to me. I defs wouldn't play them on the weekend. In fact, if it was up to me, I'd sack the lot of them.

2022-07-29T08:39:35+00:00

Choppy Zezers

Roar Rookie


His hail Mary play was an absolute miracle

2022-07-28T23:28:40+00:00

KP in WA

Guest


For me this and the Folau situation has made me think about organisations that have these causes and the religious employees. My work has diversity and inclusion events where staff the rainbow flag and we have a morning tea where someone from the LGBQI community will speak to everyone. One of my colleagues is a Muslim and I only just realised that he takes the day off when these events roll around. I asked him about and confirmed that he goes to his mosque and pray. It makes me wonder how many people are uncomfortable with these events etc that the employers do. I think organisations do need to stop and think about how they can continue to promote these worthy causes but also consider people who oppose and accept that to truely be inclusive all cultural and religious backgrounds must be considered.

2022-07-28T23:17:45+00:00

Roberto Bettega

Roar Rookie


Maybe the NRL can introduce a bible bashing day, or a God worshipping day, where all the various faiths come together to mutually pay homage to their respective deities.

2022-07-28T23:06:25+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


His half time speeches would be show stoppers as well

2022-07-28T22:48:34+00:00

Yawn

Guest


Yeah to those mocking Christ and other peoples beliefs you’ve lost the moral high ground. Great way to win an argument.

2022-07-28T22:47:10+00:00

AV

Roar Rookie


brilliant thread. loved the dad jokes.

2022-07-28T19:58:28+00:00

Gray-Hand

Roar Rookie


Went awol for 3 days.

2022-07-28T17:41:02+00:00

Ad-O

Guest


Seriously, who cares they didn't want to wear the pride jersey. Should have just let them wear the regular strip. This inclusivity thing sure does a lot of exclusion once it comes into contact with reality.

2022-07-28T16:04:10+00:00

Daffyd

Roar Rookie


He got cross very upset.

2022-07-28T16:03:13+00:00

Daffyd

Roar Rookie


Hah! That must be where the term "Thick as" comes from ... But, dunno about the bunker. He might need a trip down stairs to sort that one out.

2022-07-28T15:37:18+00:00

Choppy Zezers

Roar Rookie


There's plenty of thieves in rugby league, Daffyd. Player managers. Roosters poaching local juniors from the other clubs. The Maroons stealing the State of Origin this year. The Storm. Jesus would sort it. And he would cure the bunker, too

2022-07-28T15:33:29+00:00

Choppy Zezers

Roar Rookie


Just don't put him on the bench. Remember the last time he was placed on timber? (Too soon...?)

2022-07-28T15:23:05+00:00

Daffyd

Roar Rookie


Yes he was definitely in charge of the canteen. He was an amazing medic too, able to get the seriously injured back onto the paddock with nothing more than his hands and that magic sponge.

2022-07-28T15:20:35+00:00

Daffyd

Roar Rookie


Jesus could not be “preaching the gospel” as they hadn’t been written yet. He was a Jew who spoke to Jews about Judaism. Jesus was not a Christian, Christianity as a religion came about after his death I never said or implied that he was “agreeing” to their behaviour. Instead he didn’t judge or condemn sinners, something that seems to be forgotten by many modern Christians. Luke 6:37 “Do not judge, and you will not be judged; do not condemn, and you will not be condemned.” And having judged another, you open yourself to being judged… Matthew 7:1-2 “Do not judge, so that you will not be judged. For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get.” As far as thieves go, yes, he was known to hang around with them.

2022-07-28T14:27:45+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


Being around sinners preaching the gospel is different to agreeing with what they were doing. I guess It's ok to steal aswell as he chilled a few hours with thiefs.

2022-07-28T14:23:37+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


Articles says Manly believe in being inclusive when it comes to religious beliefs so they can't tell people they don't care about said religious beliefs and be inclusive.

2022-07-28T14:20:51+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


Businesses know how to make money off commercial gimmicks. Hence why they did what they did. What happens off the field is more important than on it for these people.

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