'Same game, same way': Why equal suspensions for NRL and NRLW players won't work

By Mary Konstantopoulos / Expert

Season five of the Women’s National Rugby League Premiership is just 10 days away.

I’m hoping that in the next 10 days the media coverage really ramps up ahead of the opening match between the Parramatta Eels and Sydney Roosters on Saturday 20 August; especially considering the quality of play that season four delivered for us.

Just like in the fourth edition, season five of the NRLW will feature six teams: the Parramatta Eels, Sydney Roosters, St George Illawarra Dragons, Brisbane Broncos, Newcastle Knights and Gold Coast Titans.

This will be the last season with just these six teams, with the competition set to expand in 2023 to also include the Wests Tigers, Cronulla Sharks, Canberra Raiders and North Queensland Cowboys.

Whilst this expansion is exciting, it’s extremely important that any expansion takes place in a sustainable way.

For that to happen, there are a number of issues worth considering and I’m hopeful that the NRL looks to address those issues throughout this upcoming NRLW season and in the move towards season 2023.

The Collective Bargaining Agreement is also up for renegotiation with the Rugby League Players Association to play a crucial role in how these issues are handled.

The players have already started speaking up about some of these challenges.

Many of you will recall that earlier this year, the Australian Rugby League Commission approved enhancements to the Judiciary and Match Review Committee.

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For the men’s game this resulted in a number of changes, but in particular, each male player started 2022 with a clean slate with their player records to begin again on a rolling 12-month period following their last offence.

The existing points system was removed and instead, replaced with a model which was intended to be simpler; resulting in players either being issued with a fine or a suspension.

But what do the changes look like in relation to the women’s game?

In some circumstances, the changes have resulted in bigger fines and longer suspensions for women who are competing in an already short season. Some penalties are also longer than they were in the previous season with some offences facing a three-game suspension when the maximum in season four was two games.

There are also some offences where the suspension is the same length of time in the men’s and women’s game; most notably careless high tackles (grade two and three) and contrary conduct (grades two and three).

On the face of it, this might sound right – equality. But it is certainly not equitable given the disparity in circumstances between the men and the women.

A three match-suspension in the women’s game equates to almost half a season on the sideline, whilst in the men’s game it is a much smaller proportion of an extended season.

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For women who, in some circumstances, change country to participate in the NRLW, having half your season wiped out for an offence would be particularly distressing. The equivalent would be a male player being wiped out for 16 weeks of a season.

The slogan for the NRLW for the last five seasons has been ‘same game, our way’.

This does not seem particularly fitting for a judiciary process that seems to unnecessarily disadvantage female athletes, many of whom will put their lives on hold in order to play in the NRLW. It almost feels like it is ‘same game, same way’.

As mentioned above, this is not the only challenge which I think is worth addressing ahead of expansion.

The conversation about pay has been done to death and I don’t intend to rehash it here, other than once again saying that it is imperative that if seasons continue to be elongated that payment also be increased, too.

It is not an appropriate outcome for women to exist in a state of financial insecurity just to play the game that they love at an elite level (especially when, given its visibility, an elite standard of play is expected from these women).

Facilities continue to be a concern with some of the facilities our female athletes used last year not being appropriately set up for women’s rugby league.

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I remember being told a story about two teams needing to share dressing rooms so that they could have enough toilets for the players prior to the games commencing.

One final point which I am interested in watching play out.

The competition below the NRLW is the Harvey Norman Women’s Premiership. Not all teams in the NRLW have a team in the HNWP (for example, Parramatta).

The HNWP features teams from across Sydney, including the North Sydney Bears, Wentworthville Magpies and Mounties.

With the Tigers, Sharks and Knights all having teams in the NRLW, I wonder whether players will be more likely to move to those clubs to play in a single pathway which could also see them play NRLW at the same level?

It is not necessarily problematic for players to want to play for one club in both competitions, but it could result in teams like the Bears being pillaged for players.

It may make it difficult for some of these teams, who will never have an NRLW team, to make the case to attract talent and additionally, if the best players flood to the same team then this will create unevenness in the competition; this disparity is unwanted in any type of competition.

I’ll be the first in line to get to the NRLW this year, but as the NRLW continues to grow and expand, there are challenging conversations which need to take place.

So, let’s start having them.

The Crowd Says:

2022-08-12T01:15:50+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Yes UMBRAGE at someone being given 1 week for a spear tackle.... You think thats OK?

2022-08-11T10:51:09+00:00

Dirk

Guest


Surprise, surprise. It’s Jacko that takes umbrage.

2022-08-10T21:26:55+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


This is a tricky one. I understand the proportionate angle and we also see fewer high/ dangerous shots than in the men's game. My concern is where there is one, a bad one, the story will be 'broken neck = 2 weeks'. It's proportionate to what the men get but it's not enough. This might be one where discretion at the judiciary is used in place of announcing lesser penalties.

2022-08-10T09:29:13+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Well Guests come and go and dont own their own comments so on the odd occasion you get guys that stay as the same name but generally Guests tend to hit and run. All good if you arnt doing that. Enjoy the lounge :laughing: :laughing:

2022-08-10T09:24:44+00:00

TEC

Guest


"Same game, our way". Equity. Go your hardest. But play fair.

2022-08-10T07:19:50+00:00

The good doctor

Guest


I would sign in, but the roar aren't publishing my comments anymore when I do. Besides, what is this sad obsession you have with guest v member? It's not the invitation only Qantas Chairmans lounge, mate...or should I say, Rookie.

2022-08-10T05:06:26+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Perhaps become a member and have your say as being a guest just means you change your login name all the time and dont own any comments you make. Sometimes Mimickry gets the point across best... Well thats what the Rolling stones and Beatles reckoned when they did covers

2022-08-10T05:04:17+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Haha i think this one a bit loose but you dont usually like my content writer Mushi! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2022-08-10T05:01:24+00:00

Nick Maguire

Roar Rookie


MK, 5 weeks would look pretty paltry in the context of a 50 week season wouldn't it?

2022-08-10T04:53:39+00:00

The good doctor

Guest


That's the best that feeble mind can produce? Mimickry?

2022-08-10T04:53:26+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


I love whomever it is that writes your content.

2022-08-10T03:25:49+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


I tried to back mushi as an anytime rant but no bookie would make a market.

2022-08-10T03:24:56+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


TB do you believe a female doing a spear tackle like Cleary did to be worth a 1 week suspension?

2022-08-10T03:19:35+00:00

Nick Maguire

Roar Rookie


:laughing:

AUTHOR

2022-08-10T02:40:50+00:00

Mary Konstantopoulos

Expert


Cadafel, I have no idea... but at this stage I would not hold your breath for a full home and away season as that would require the players to be paid significantly more.

2022-08-10T02:34:35+00:00

Cadfael

Roar Guru


Next year with 10 teams in the NRLW, will this be a home and away comp going over 18 weeks plus finals? If so, then suspensions should be the same.

2022-08-10T02:34:07+00:00

mushi

Roar Guru


I tried to back Jacko as an anytime rant but no bookie would make a market.

AUTHOR

2022-08-10T02:20:19+00:00

Mary Konstantopoulos

Expert


I suppose then we should be banning Nathan Cleary for 20 weeks for his tackle on Dylan Brown two weeks ago. That's also equality (just from a qualitative lens, not a quantitative one).

AUTHOR

2022-08-10T02:14:56+00:00

Mary Konstantopoulos

Expert


Again, Jacko I fundamentally disagree with you. If you want equality - then fantastic. Let's lengthen the season, pay the players properly and have the same length of suspension etc. What you are arguing for, as I pointed out about may quantitatively equal, but not qualitatively so. Your argument with a male player that had been out for half a season is completely irrelevant and misses the point completely.

2022-08-10T02:13:08+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


I was expecting there would be a few bad takes when I read this article, but this one’s red hot…

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