Stripping the Rugby League World Cup down to eight teams is admitting defeat

By Joe Frost / Editor

After another weekend of thrashings in the Rugby League World Cup, it feels like the tournament is faced with a chicken or egg scenario with regards to its participation in the future.

Does it cull the amount of teams from 16 to eight, with the sides that miss out having to climb to a higher standard before being allowed to participate again?

Or do the likes of Greece, Scotland, Jamaica and Wales – the bottom-placed sides in all four pools, with zero wins between them and respective for-and-against scores of -180, -124, -170 and -32 – need to continue to play in the quadrennial tourney to ever get to a standard that makes it worth their while to turn up?

I don’t pretend to have the answers, but I read one of the better arguments for the latter in a wonderful story by Dan Walsh over the weekend about the game in Jamaica.

“You have to start from somewhere,” Reggae Warriors assistant coach Roy Calvert told Walsh.

“… [N]ot that long ago, the All Blacks put 145 on Japan [in the 1995 Rugby World Cup]. Now Japan has hosted a World Cup and beaten South Africa.

“You can’t have a World Cup played by four or five nations. If you want a truly international game, it takes time and patience. As they say in State of Origin, you have to ‘pick and stick’.”

It’s easy to dismiss Jamaica given they turned up, got spanked three times and now head home.

But this is a country that, according to Walsh, has “no designated rugby league pitch”, yet still has its own version of State of Origin as a team from the capital, Kingston, takes on the rest of the island.

And while the bulk of the national players feature in the English Super League – qualifying on heritage grounds – five of the squad that went to the World Cup ply their trade for Jamaica’s Duhaney Park Red Sharks, reigning champs of the country’s eight-team National Club Championship.

Eight club teams and a rep series that Calvert says has “proper hatred to it”, all in a country without a single rugby league field.

You’ve got to be impressed with that.

So is it completely beyond the pale that with a bit of time, effort and money from the game’s global body, a country that has produced the likes of Usain Bolt – in the conversation for the greatest athlete of all time – and players who qualify via heritage like dual-code legend Jason Robinson and the current tournament’s leading try-scorer, Dom Young, could become another Fiji, Papua New Guinea or Lebanon?

(Photo by Martin Rickett/PA Images via Getty Images)

But are Jamaica going to receive the requisite attention if their only showings on the international stage is the Americas Rugby League Championship, which has been held three times in total since its inception in 2016?

The other advantage of having a World Cup is that otherwise uninterested parties are more inclined to get involved.

Watching on in Greece’s coaches’ box on the weekend was Roosters chairman Nick Politis, one of the richest humans on the planet.

Politis’ involvement may not have stopped the English from running riot over the Greeks, but you think a man with decades of knowledge and success in the game, who also happens to have billions of dollars in his bank account, isn’t going to make the national set-up better in the long term?

But while ‘Uncle Nick’ is a proud Greek, I wonder how involved he would be with the national side if their only matches were against fellow European minnows Serbia, Malta and Ukraine.

A World Cup gives scope, size and an audience. Sure, these ‘smaller’ teams may be getting belted by their more established counterparts, but how do you become established in a sport except by playing the game?

Not for nothing either, but you think the guys in these teams that get thrashed are embarrassed that they got to play against the likes of James Tedesco, Joe Tapine or Tom Burgess?

I have the answer for you:

While culling the tournament back to eight teams would see a higher percentage of quality games, the World Cup would be stripped of all development value.

Seven of the eight teams are pretty much set: Australia, New Zealand, England, Tonga, Samoa, Fiji and Papua New Guinea. As for which nation would take the eighth spot, suggestions of a qualifying tournament are all well and good but how keen are these smaller nations going to be to fork over the money and spend the time required to play the required tournaments when just one team gets any result from it, and that result rolls around once every four years?

Basically, it ends any hope that Jamaica, Greece, Scotland or Wales have of playing a World Cup again. Probably Italy, Ireland and Cook Islands too – and that’s to say nothing of countries like USA and Canada that didn’t even qualify for this tournament.

And if you can’t even dream of making the World Cup, what’s the point of trying? The flow-on effect would be to decimate what work has been done around the world to create the likes of Jamaica’s NCC or Greece’s domestic competitions (yes, plural).

A World Cup of 16 teams may mean we’ll see blowouts but it’s a true reflection of the game at present: not where it needs to be, but at least it’s having a go. It needs work, but it has the aspiration of being better.

Suggestions that the World Cup needs to be of a super high standard for the whole tournament is head-in-the-sand stuff. It needs to have a development aspect because it’s a developing sport.

Rugby league is not a strong international game. But that doesn’t mean it never can be.

By having the likes of Jamaica take part, the game says “we see you” to the people who are training on concrete and kicking conversions over PVC crossbars in the Caribbean. It gives them something to work towards and a reason to keep going.

A tournament of eight teams is effectively an admission that this is as big as rugby league is ever going to get and any nation outside the Pacific or northern England should just give it up.

The Crowd Says:

2022-11-07T05:50:37+00:00

deucer

Roar Rookie


I can understand sheek's view, although I don't agree with it when it comes to PI players - most are 1st generation players and have very strong ties to their homeland. Most are in places where RL is played widely and therefore their participation will mean something. On the other hand players from the NRL who play in Lebanon, Scotland or other far flung places that are far removed and can't speak the language or have never visited make it a bit of a farce and keep out genuine countries like France.

2022-11-04T10:40:31+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


Australians taking down their fellow countrymen. So very un-Australian. Ask yourself, Sheek. Is that what you are proud of ?

2022-11-04T09:23:42+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


With all these "proud" people running around - proud Lebanese, proud Greeks, proud Italians, proud Irish, proud Samoans, proud Tongans, proud Fijians, proud Kiwis - all babbling on about their heritage, despite being born & bred here, where are the proud Australians? Or is being Australian now something to be ashamed of? Say it quietly, whisper it in fact in hushed tones, "I am actually proud of my Aussie heritage". When you throw money at an idea, no matter how absurd it is, it's amazing how you can convince yourself that smashing a square peg into a round hole, is perfectly sensible.

2022-11-03T01:21:35+00:00

clipper

Roar Rookie


Easy to find on Google, goes down to 23. Australia of course is miles ahead (like in league) PNG, NZ and Ireland make up the next three. I think if any team played Australia the odds would be 1.002, just like they are with Aust. playing Lebanon in the quarters.

2022-11-03T01:09:37+00:00

andyfnq

Roar Rookie


Completely. Let's build the game domestically (PNG and NZ included) and the rest of the world can go root my boot

2022-11-02T12:29:19+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


1. I'm glad I could give you a laugh FSG but illegal play is no laughing matter. 2. There is no excuse for crippling someone because they are small and or skillful. 3. The bomb is the easiest way to score a try when your team is full of bashers and bargers. 4. Cricket is a dangerous game that can kill you because head high bowling is allowed. It's not something to be proud of.

2022-11-02T12:06:46+00:00

Packmen

Guest


Brett do you think if 100 years of league were played anyone other than the main 8 teams could beat Australia ? I adore league, Ashes, tri, 4, WC. But a format that features countries where 99.9% of the country don’t know what the sport is let alone are watching it playing the actual main professionals is totally ridiculous. We need to focus on rebuilding the historically successful international game, which actually now has a couple more competitive teams. Ireland, Greece, Jamaica etc are never ever going to be rugby league countries .

2022-11-02T12:01:50+00:00

Packmen

Guest


I’m afraid the Japan comparison is sadly just total fake news. Japan has had a massive rugby culture with hundreds of clubs for over a century. In 95 when they got pasted by NZ the game was 100% amateur so cash made less of a difference, but Japan were still getting 50k crowds for school and university finals. I love league but it’s acolytes refuse to accept the scale of the difference. France has 7k players and hasn’t had a crowd of over 20k for 40 years. They’re by far and away the 5th largest RL country in terms of playing numbers and viewership. They’re pretty similar to Uruguay rugby Union with those numbers (far far smaller than Spain rugby Union who aren’t even top 15). Pushing the likes of Jamaica, Ireland etc is like Union pushing Uganda, India etc. We need to focus on teams with actual potential but even more importantly teams people want to watch! An obvious compromise is a super group at world cups featuring the best teams, and other teams in other groups who can earn a chance to play the big boys.

2022-11-02T11:45:03+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


We can't get rid of the Rugby League World cup, but we could reject the invitation. That would increase the chances for NZ and England. We would be left with the game played in two states and the capital territory. You've got State of Origin fever.

2022-11-02T11:26:03+00:00

JennyFromPenny

Guest


Outrageously uneducated. Do you realise Samoa to Auckland is the same distance as Melbourne to Cairns ?

2022-11-02T11:20:24+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


Clipper, do you have the AFLX world rankings?

2022-11-02T10:33:44+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


No-one wants to see lopsided high scoring matches in the NRL but it's okay in the world cups. The game can only grow.

2022-11-02T09:03:16+00:00

Brett Allen

Roar Rookie


Semantics

2022-11-02T08:59:41+00:00

Rob9

Roar Guru


No bud, you’ve no time for reality.

2022-11-02T08:56:25+00:00

Footy fan in SG

Guest


It's actually "News Corp Australia", not News Ltd. In any event, their reach and remit is ANZ. Stay in your lane...or church.

2022-11-02T08:56:20+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


1. Reading Shakespeare was an interactive learning experience for him and he was also given a dictionary and other books to read later at school. He excelled because of early learning. 2. Your example of Cleary is also due to early learning, not genetics. Nathan received early learning from a master of the game. 3. Greece, Lebanon and Jamaica will be bigger and better next time.

2022-11-02T08:53:03+00:00

Brett Allen

Roar Rookie


The only way to bridge the gap is for the minnows to play more regularly against stronger opposition.

2022-11-02T08:52:50+00:00

Footy fan in SG

Guest


A laughable response that focuses only on head highs and dangerous shots. It's also about basic techniques when facing legal play. When you are out of position or out of your depth in rugby league - it cripples you. Basically, you see it in any sport. Using Andrew Johns as an example again: those ridiculous t20 games he played. Not only was he out of his depth, he was putting himself in incredible danger. He hadn't a clue how to handle even good length balls at 130km/h. If a bouncer was aimed for his head - he would have been in real trouble. But, I guess you have to start somewhere, yeah?

2022-11-02T08:51:53+00:00

Brett Allen

Roar Rookie


Poor crowd’s doesn’t equate to a poor tournament.

2022-11-02T08:50:57+00:00

Brett Allen

Roar Rookie


I have no time for cynicism

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