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Except I think you’ll find that a condition of the Penn family ownership is that the club can’t be relocated or merged. I think that the Leagues Club would’ve insisted on first and last rights if Scott Penn wanted to sell.

Don’t treat Perth as second-class NRL citizens again by lumping them with a relic of the past from 'over east'

On the contrary, I have no difficulty in believing there are at least 200k Bears fans who are now just casual fans who would become more connected to the NRL. Same with the Jets. Who is a rusted on Bears fan supporting now ? Manly ? Hardly.
I also take objection to the notion that its PVL’s money he’s handing out. Any revenues generated by the NRL Premiership belongs, be default, to the current 17 clubs who are equal shareholders in the league. If the clubs want the Bears back, they’ll make it happen.

Don’t treat Perth as second-class NRL citizens again by lumping them with a relic of the past from 'over east'

I love how we think we need Perth to be the National RL. The national footprint means zero if we are also adding 2 other teams from other countries.
It’s not about any footprint, it’s about growth. The league has to keep growing whilst there is untapped potential audience. Perth, and Adelaide & NZ outside of Auckland are massive untapped markets.
National comp that includes 3 overseas teams? Might have to rename the competition.
The name is meaningless. The NHL has seven Canadian teams, the NBA & MLB have a Canadian team also.
So this suggests the footprint debate is feeble at best, next we have time zone as the selling point. Which let’s face it, doesn’t have any effect on the current TV schedule. It only means their away games have to be the 2nd Friday game, 2nd or 3rd Saturday or last game on a Sunday.
I agree the time zone itself isn’t a compelling argument for Perth, but it doesn’t hurt. You could schedule all their home games for 17:30 or 19:30 EST and the games will be played in daylight in Perth. The more day games the better.
Which then leaves it as the RL need for a team in WA. I can’t see it as a need, also to run the club players 18-36 on your roster have to play on eastern seaboard. That’s 10 hour round trip most weeks = bad for performance. Or playing in WA comp which would stunt development. Neither helps the franchise have success.
That is a valid point, but not insurmountable. The Reds reserves would most likely play in the NSW Cup. The logistics would have to be managed, but the flip side is that any Perth team would have a massive home ground advantage by virtue of the distance the other clubs have to travel.

Don’t treat Perth as second-class NRL citizens again by lumping them with a relic of the past from 'over east'

I’m an Eels tragic and I would support a team of flesh eating genocidal Alien queens against the Dogs, but I don’t want the Dogs to merge with anyone. I hate that the Magpies & Steelers are gone, the Bears & Jets too. I’d have them all back in a heartbeat, and continue national expansion.

Don’t treat Perth as second-class NRL citizens again by lumping them with a relic of the past from 'over east'

Yes, but their one non negotiable is that they must play Manly every year at NSO. That just cannot be allowed to happen.

Don’t treat Perth as second-class NRL citizens again by lumping them with a relic of the past from 'over east'

There’s unlimited talent out there waiting to be discovered and developed. The league has to continue to grow and expand.

Don’t treat Perth as second-class NRL citizens again by lumping them with a relic of the past from 'over east'

The only way it could work is if it is a complete relocation, not a partial relocation. No home games in Sydney.

Don’t treat Perth as second-class NRL citizens again by lumping them with a relic of the past from 'over east'

Scott Penn will never sell Manly, and certainly not to a Bears consortium. He bought Manly because he wanted to keep the Sea Eagles alive and kicking, (or would that be flapping). Manly Leagues Club still owns a minority stake and they won’t permit the sale of the license to the Bears.

Don’t treat Perth as second-class NRL citizens again by lumping them with a relic of the past from 'over east'

No, for it to be successful ALL home games would have to be in Perth.

Don’t treat Perth as second-class NRL citizens again by lumping them with a relic of the past from 'over east'

The problem is that the Bears in particular will want at least one game a season, ie against Manly, at North Sydney Oval. They would still want the merged club to have one foot in Sydney, so why would Perth embrace a club that still really wants to be in Sydney ?
Quite simply, they wouldn’t.

Don’t treat Perth as second-class NRL citizens again by lumping them with a relic of the past from 'over east'

Why ?
You punt two Sydney clubs those fans will just be lost to the game, or at best they’d become just casual fans.
And frankly, there’s no compelling argument to punt any of the Sydney clubs ?

Don’t treat Perth as second-class NRL citizens again by lumping them with a relic of the past from 'over east'

Bring back the Western Reds.

Don’t treat Perth as second-class NRL citizens again by lumping them with a relic of the past from 'over east'

He was very successful as a head coach at Cup level in both Qld & NSW. He clearly is fine as a head coach. I thought you guys gave up on him far too early.

NRL News: Galvin 'going nowhere' says Benji, Demetriou a surprise contender for Eels gig, Robinson backs Cheika at Parra

Be careful of going just on his public comments. I didn’t hear him say that the Bunnies didn’t have a good roster. He merely commented on the nature of the Eels roster. And why does he have to take ownership of his failures publicly, assuming he did fail ?

NRL News: Galvin 'going nowhere' says Benji, Demetriou a surprise contender for Eels gig, Robinson backs Cheika at Parra

He very much wants it, and if the club wanted him I think he’d already have it. I don’t think they’re completely sold on him.

NRL News: Galvin 'going nowhere' says Benji, Demetriou a surprise contender for Eels gig, Robinson backs Cheika at Parra

JD was my choice as soon as they punted BA. Coaching the Eels is a unique challenge. It’s a bit like playing for Liverpool, you’re not playing or coaching a team or a club, it’s more like you’re playing for a cause. Many well credentialed coaches have come to the Eels and floundered, primarily because they don’t understand the club. For Eels fans it’s their life, they live and breathe their club. The only other NRL club that somewhat approaches that is the Bunnies. The only coaches in our history that truly understood the club AND had success were Ken Kearney, Ken Thornett, Jack Gibson & Brian Smith. I don’t think BA even truly understood the club, I don’t think very many of our current players understand the club either. It would be interesting to see what lessons JD learnt from his time at Souths.

NRL News: Galvin 'going nowhere' says Benji, Demetriou a surprise contender for Eels gig, Robinson backs Cheika at Parra

I’m sure you’re right, but like I said I’m a dreamer

Abdo talks up PNG but Bears could snubbed yet again - Jets set to jump the queue with Perth to be next new team

That was my first reaction

'He's a big lump of a thing': Des could spring surprise positional switch with Gordon at Titans - RA blocks early move

Never see him play, have no idea. But again, he’s yet to play a game of rugby league, so, not sure anyone can really pidgeon hole him just yet. Based on the description of him so far I’d suggest he might play as an edge forward.

'He's a big lump of a thing': Des could spring surprise positional switch with Gordon at Titans - RA blocks early move

Given that he hasn’t played a single game of rugby league, that’s an impressive reduction of him to a single position.

'He's a big lump of a thing': Des could spring surprise positional switch with Gordon at Titans - RA blocks early move

Will only work if the relocations are all in. Can’t have one foot in new city and the other stuck in Sydney. Has to be full commitment.

Abdo talks up PNG but Bears could snubbed yet again - Jets set to jump the queue with Perth to be next new team

And gains will be more than offset by its losses. It’s a disaster in the making.

Abdo talks up PNG but Bears could snubbed yet again - Jets set to jump the queue with Perth to be next new team

I know a lot of Bears tragics who don’t have a team and are now team less and are essentially just casual fans. I have no problems seeing a Bears team able to attract 20k members and strong commercial income.

Abdo talks up PNG but Bears could snubbed yet again - Jets set to jump the queue with Perth to be next new team

I’d agree except I’d have the Bears where they belong, on the north shore in a brand new 25k stadium, AND a central coast club, but hey, I’m a dreamer. I still think that Perth is a no brainer for the 18th.

Abdo talks up PNG but Bears could snubbed yet again - Jets set to jump the queue with Perth to be next new team

Nomadic country teams would never be viable.

NRL to 20: The new teams to build country NSW and debut a mouth-watering North vs South NZ Origin

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