Super Rugby Pacific tipping week 5: Testing times, Razor questions and bloated sick bays

By Brett McKay / Expert

“Let’s see how they go in New Zealand,” the hot takes go, almost always trying to dismiss anything approaching a perfectly solid performance by an Australian side and particularly if it came against another Australian side.

Even while there often is an element of truth to it, I personally find it more than a bit overblown and overhyped, not unlike the next great young Australian thing after one game. As always, things are never really as good and definitely not as bad as they seem.

Regardless, this week does see a couple of Australian sides facing the so-called ultimate test, with the Brumbies jumping the ditch to Christchurch with a strategically selected side and the Waratahs with an injury list nearing 2022 Wallabies length hosting the competition-leading Chiefs at Three Dollar Sauce Stadium in Sydney.

Titles won’t be won and lost on either result, but judgements will almost certainly be handed down. And tips will quite likely be rubbed out, as what seems logical on a Thursday is quickly ignored once a ball is kicked.

But there are a couple of local derbies that appeal this weekend, too, with Moana Pasifika finally at home again after a month away and hosting the Hurricanes, and the high-flying Rebels hosting Queensland and ready to take another more-fancied scalp.

Overblown or overhyped, it will be a testing round across the weekend. And maybe this is the week we see some genuine upset to rock the tipping panel.

LAST WEEK: Digger 6, Geoff 5, Harry 5, Brett 5, Christy 5; The Crowd 5.

OVERALL: Digger 19, Geoff 18, Christy 18, Brett 17, Harry 16; The Crowd 19.

Digger leads us off after recording the first perfect round of the season last week.

Digger

TIPS: CRUSADERS, CHIEFS, HIGHLANDERS, HURRICANES, REBELS, BLUES

Crusaders and Brumbies shapes as a cracking way to start Round 5 and I find myself divided, especially with the news of Sam Whitelock out amongst others for the Crusaders. The Brumbies are a chance here but my conservatism beat me out, choosing the ‘safety’ of the home side.

Last week’s hard match against the Blues will (I think, maybe) have the Crusaders better prepared than the romp the Brumbies enjoyed.

The Waratahs at home will also fancy themselves against the Chiefs but their open attacking style will not be of use against a Chiefs side who will relish the opportunities this will present.

Highlanders and Drua is also another head-scratcher. The Drua are a fair shout here, they’re such a difficult side to play once they gain momentum, but again, I will tentatively pick the Highlanders. Not because they are at home but because the Drua have yet to show they can perform consistently on the road.

Moana Pasifika scored a famous win against the same opposition and venue last season with a thrilling golden point try, but I see no repeat of such heroics – Canes by plenty. The Rebels and Reds promises to be a tight and willing contest, but the Rebels’ overall form appeals, I think they may nab this derby.

Great again to see more Sunday fare on the calendar but unfortunately, I struggle to see much of a contest. Blues to romp in.

SURE THING: Plenty of fanfare over the appointment of Razor to the All Blacks coaching role from 2024. He’s certainly a popular choice but the big question remains, and I doubt it has been given much thought: how will he handle Mr Jones?

Crusaders head coach Scott Robertson celebrates his 100th game with a win during the Super Rugby Pacific Semi Final match between the Crusaders and the Chiefs at Orangetheory Stadium on June 10, 2022 in Christchurch, New Zealand. (Photo by Peter Meecham/Getty Images)

Geoff

TIPS: CRUSADERS, CHIEFS, DRUA, HURRICANES, REBELS, BLUES

A tasty start to the round with the evenly matched Brumbies and Crusaders both missing key personnel. This is one of those occasions where it feels safer just to stick with the home side and be done with it.

That rule doesn’t apply to Sydney where it’s hard to feel safe about tipping the Waratahs to beat the Chiefs. So I won’t. The Highlanders finally got a win last week but nobody could say they convinced anybody in doing so. If the Drua can tidy up a couple of the rough edges, they’re a good chance for the upset.

Moana Pasifika caused the biggest upset of 2022 by beating the Hurricanes at Mt Smart. They’re getting close to a win, but it won’t happen here. I’m not sure if the Rebels beating the Reds can be classed as an upset, but they are bitterly disappointed that their higher expectations weren’t met in Hamilton, and should be able to tighten up on defence this week and sneak a win.

To Sunday, and the Force are in the middle of the toughest road trip in Super Rugby. Their chance for an away win was last week.

SURE THING: Journalists who can’t help themselves will ignore putting questions about the Crusaders v Brumbies match to Scott Robertson, and press him instead about how disappointed he is that his appointment to the All Blacks’ coaching role hasn’t been brought forward to include this year’s World Cup.

Insert ‘Robertson smiles a cheeky smile, then bats the question away’ here.

Richard Hardwick of the Rebels scores a try. (Photo by Kelly Defina/Getty Images)

Brett

TIPS: CRUSADERS, CHIEFS, HIGHLANDERS, HURRICANES, REBELS, BLUES

Resting requirements and overflowing sick bays are the tales of the tape in the Friday night games, and while it would be great to see full-strength or close-to Brumbies and Waratahs sides taking on the Crusaders and Chiefs, the rugby gods and their administrative overlords have other ideas.

Still, I’m prepared to sacrifice both tips if that’s the price for a couple of upsets.

The Highlanders might be in for a hard time in Fiji, but the roof in Dunedin and the lack of humidity and warmth will work in their favour. The Blues on Sunday will have perhaps an even easier time with the Force midway through their proper, old-school three-week Super Rugby tour.

Moana Pasifika will give the Hurricanes some curry, I have no doubt. They might even be the best chance for an upset for the weekend. The only question around them is the significant one: can they go the distance with the ‘Canes? I don’t think they can. Not in Round 5.

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Rebels v Reds will be a ripping contest. You’d like to play the Reds backline behind the Rebels pack at the moment, and that would still be a hell of a side, even without a Carter Gordon and a Fraser McReight.

It’s a flip-of-a-coin game; the Reds would start favourites in Brisbane, but I can’t see how they do it in Melbourne. They’re not consistent enough right at this point.

SURE THING: Harry Wilson will find himself throwing unusually long passes in Melbourne, as teammates give him whatever the hell is enough room to not cop a Gilbert in the face.

AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND – MARCH 18: Dalton Papalii and Beauden Barrett of the Blues look on during the round four Super Rugby Pacific match between Blues and Crusaders at Eden Park, on March 18, 2023, in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

Christy

TIPS: CRUSADERS, CHIEFS, HIGHLANDERS, HURRICANES, REBELS, BLUES

Oh lord. Crunch week has arrived in Super Rugby Pacific and, unfortunately, it doesn’t look like it’ll reflect well for Australian rugby.

The Brumbies were always going to rest some of their Test stars given the current Rugby Australia protocols in this World Cup year, and it just so happens that the Crusaders stand to benefit from a severely undermanned side.

Darren Coleman’s Waratahs, meanwhile, are dropping like flies and although they’ll scramble together a starting side, it’s starting to look bleak. The Chiefs, on the other hand, rested a number of their stars against the Rebels and then took their foot off the gas and cruised to a comfortable win last week.

Friday night’s gloomy picture can be reversed only under one condition – the Rebels and Reds put on a show.

The contest looms as a cracker. The Reds have plenty of stars, but they all come out of the tight five – which is worrisome in rugby. If the Reds can repel the Rebels’ front row, they’ll win and win well. But that looks difficult against a front-row starting to fire and a lineout proving effective for Carter Gordon.

The Hurricanes and Blues should win comfortably. As for the Highlanders, their clash under the roof against the Fijian Drua shapes as an entertaining, open affair. Unfortunately, they won’t benefit from the heat.

SURE THING: Questions will be asked about Rugby Australia’s World Cup protocol of resting players. But don’t shoot Stephen Larkham – he’s trapped between a rock and a hard place.

Coach Stephen Larkham of the Brumbies during the Super Rugby trial match between the Highlanders and the Brumbies on January 31, 2014 in Queenstown, New Zealand. (Photo by Rob Jefferies/Getty Images)

Harry

TIPS: CRUSADERS, CHIEFS, HIGHLANDERS, HURRICANES, REDS, BLUES.

Last week was Kids Week. This week is Kiwi Week.

Super Rugby Pacific enters the winnowing phase. Nobody is winning it yet, but this is when some dreams die. With the Drua and Pasifika both improved, there’s not much of an easy match proposition for anyone.

The Brumbies are solid. They are deep. But the Crusaders are the same. It’s the fundamental matchup. Purely because the game is in Christchurch: I’ll tip the home team.

The Chiefs will have too many tricks for the Waratahs over the duration of the match, and likely gain a quick lead. If the Allianz boys have to ketchup, it will cost too much.

If the Drua were in Dunedin a week ago, I’d take the Fijian lads, but I feel this will be a down week for them.

I am a big Moana fan, having been fortunate enough to meet many of the cheerful players and friendly back-office folks. I’ll be hoping I’m wrong, but I sense the Hurricanes will play well this week at Mount Smart.

The Reds have been up and down; the Rebels have been a revelation. This seems to be the game of the round on form. JOC and Harry Wilson, pushing to be on Eddie’s list, to be the difference.

The Blues in a canter.

SURE THING: In this day and age of maximal head safety, falcons deserve to be a stat taken far more seriously.

CANBERRA, AUSTRALIA – MARCH 11: James O’Connor of the Reds looks on during the round three Super Rugby Pacific match between ACT Brumbies and Queensland Reds at GIO Stadium, on March 11, 2023, in Canberra, Australia. (Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

Round 5 Geoff Digger Harry Brett Christy The Crowd
Overall 18 19 16 17 18 19
Last week 5 6 5 5 5 5
CRU v BRU Crusaders Crusaders Crusaders Crusaders Crusaders Crusaders
WAR v CHI Chiefs Chiefs Chiefs Chiefs Chiefs Chiefs
HIG v DRU Drua Highlanders Highlanders Highlanders Highlanders Highlanders
MOA v HUR Hurricanes Hurricanes Hurricanes Hurricanes Hurricanes Hurricanes
REB v RED Rebels Rebels Reds Rebels Rebels Reds
BLU v FOR Blues Blues Blues Blues Blues Blues

Get your tips in now – The Crowd’s tips will be revealed Friday afternoon AEDT.

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The Crowd Says:

2023-03-30T20:00:29+00:00

Rugby Tragic

Roar Rookie


Haha! But all bets are off Saturday Chiefs v Blues, gonna be physical and fast, tight 5 need to stand up for the Blues!

2023-03-30T12:13:14+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Damn stoopid bleedin Westies, my one chance to drag the Tragic into the Tahs fold and they play against the Blues like sissies. :crying: :angry:

2023-03-24T05:57:33+00:00

Rugby Tragic

Roar Rookie


Haha! Doesn’t need an early payout, Thugby’s worth plenty :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2023-03-24T05:55:28+00:00

Rugby Tragic

Roar Rookie


Thugby, Thugby! My average in tipping is garbage but if the Force tips over the MIGHTY BLUES on Sunday, I will give up following the MIGHTY BLUES and throw my support onto your Tahs …. Even playing a young German rugby player as a run on in the back row and without DP their skipper and future WR international player of the year out, I’d be very surprised if the Force got to win 20 points of the MIGHTY BLUES :happy: You and I’m sure Mr Chook must be confident of a win on your home ground. I mean the Tah are only playing the Chiefs .. :silly:

2023-03-24T00:35:28+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


Yes, for example I always feel when I'm hungry.

2023-03-24T00:34:58+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


How does it feel? Annoying that it took four cracks at it to get there! :silly:

2023-03-23T20:58:14+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Reason's vehement politics get in the way of anything he has to say about rugby most of the time. And yet the rare occasion when he puts those aside he actually says some smart things. Unfortunately, it is so so rare!

2023-03-23T19:38:27+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Interestingly Reds vs Rebels should be the most interesting game. That could go anyway, I think. I smell an upset or a scare in one of the games and it will come from cards. I'm just not sure which one.

2023-03-23T12:31:29+00:00

WEST

Roar Guru


Reds vs Rebels is a tough one?? I’ll go the Reds, but I won’t be surprised if the Rebels can beat the Reds :stoked: Other tough one is the Highlanders vs Drua, again can go either way, Highlanders are decimated with injuries. I’ll select the Highlanders.. Again, won’t be surprised if the Drua run away with a win. Other game that could be tougher than you think is the Crusaders vs Brumbies, majority pick the Brumbies.. Players being rested bla bla bla. The Crusaders home fortress isn’t what it use to be, Crusaders are losing at home far more frequently lately. This will be very interesting! I’ll pick the Crusaders, but if the Brumbies fringe players can take this opportunity and give the Crusaders a good run for their money, it could come down to the wire. Also the Crusaders have a few injuries, Whitelock is a big hole to fill. Canes vs Moana, Canes by a few tries. NSW vs Chiefs, Chiefs by a few tries, should get a BP.

2023-03-23T10:51:23+00:00

WithTheDawn

Roar Rookie


Right you are, but nope, sticking with the colours for the Sat night / Sunday arvo double.

2023-03-23T10:19:18+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


We rested four ABs at home to the Rebels. Worked out great!

AUTHOR

2023-03-23T10:07:48+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Also, get an early payout on your Sure Thing if you can...

2023-03-23T10:03:30+00:00

Highlander

Roar Guru


We ar e going to have to adjust how we view defenders and defensive performance in the new world

AUTHOR

2023-03-23T09:56:41+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


"there could will be a massive upset there..." Fixed it for you, Thugby... :laughing:

2023-03-23T09:45:17+00:00

John Ferguson

Expert


Hey Thugby! I hear what you are saying and I think he too needs to involve himself in more rucks but his explosive injections are worthy of the plaudits and he is rattling the ribcages of the best in the business here in the southern hemisphere. I think Wilson is the form 8 as far as effort areas go in tight, he and Hoskins lead amount of carries and no other Australian forward comes close in run metres to Wilson. Hardwick is the one with most presence on the ball. Gleeson is 5 years and 42 super caps behind Wilson so he has a lot to learn in the game. The big difference is that Wilson does not have the power or strength at the next level yet, Gleeson does, he proved that last year on the end of year tour whereas Wilson did not inspire any impact coming off the backfence against the ABs or against England where he was penalised regularly. So I hear you but there are those like Siya Kolisi, Len Ikitau and Willie La Roux as well as maybe Gleeson who have the ability to shrug-off average club form and mix it at the top level.

2023-03-23T09:36:47+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Hi JohnF. Langi Gleeson reminds me so much of the hype and the performance of the "wunderkid #8" Jed Hollaway around 2016-2017. Hollaway at #8 was a good lineout merchant and an explosive runner out wide with the ball, so he got loads of praise and media hype. But when you really watched his game, he was a ruck watcher and operated on the edge of the middle running at small backs. The other 7 blokes did the dirty work in the middle. Even so, the Tah-o-phile WB coach M.Chieka just could not cap him, so Hollaway went o/s to learn his trade and improved out of sight. Langi Gleeson seems quite similar though a different player. Makes the occasional set-piece run into a gap which gets fans all excited, rushes out and gets 2 big hits in defence, contests 1 ruck and is OK in the lineout. And that is it. The other blokes are doing all his work while he has a smoko. I just don't see the raves. The bloke needs to up his involvement in the match before I would have him anywhere near the WB team. Lachlan Swinton looked a similar player when he started but he really improved his involvment. I remember re-watching, with pen and paper in hand, a test match against the Darkness back in 2021 specifically to note his involvement. He would go crazy for 6-8 minutes and be in everything, attacking rucks, tackling, running the ball up, then more rucks. Then he would disappear for about 5 minutes (get his breath back or the pill just didn't come near him) then he would go crazy again for about 7 minutes. The number of rucks he was involved in was phenomenal, yet because he wasn't doing turnovers he seemed invisible. I really had to change my mind about Swinton after that.

AUTHOR

2023-03-23T09:07:40+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Again though, who in their right mind is going to rob their own fans? The Crusaders didn't do that, the Chiefs haven't. Why should the Brumbies?

2023-03-23T09:04:38+00:00

JD Kiwi

Roar Rookie


I’m saying that it’s good for the comp when you rest players against weaker teams which makes those matches more even, bad when you diminish one of the few truly heavyweight fixtures. They could have done what the Chiefs did and rest some against MP, some against NSW.

2023-03-23T09:04:23+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Four of these games are a gimme, but I can smell an upset somewhere. Perhaps, seeing as both Brett and I have put our coin on RT's mob the Blues, there could be a massive upset there. Perchance the Force wins, then finally Chookman and I can get RT to diss them flakes and join the Church of Them Noble Tahs. He knows that when the Rapture erupts, then only the Tahs followers will float skywards. The heathens (Reds, Brumbies, Rebels, Kiwi followers) will need loads of sunscreen. :laughing: Onto the tips: - The Borg to flog the Brumbies 3rd grade team by 20+. The Saders will shade the Brumbies in the Battle of the Piggies, but with R.Mo'unga directing traffic, the Saders' huge backs will run riot. - The last time I went to a TNT (Them Noble Tahs) match vs Chiefs {Wollongong in SR2020}, the Tahs held their own to half time. Sadly in the 2nd half, A.Cruden and S.Stevenson et al skinned TNT to the tune of over 50 points. No Crude or Stevenson this time around but it could be just as nasty. :crying: - This is my upset. Highlanders have looked better after 3 floggings, but the Force still cut them up and should have won last week's match. Highlanders will try to keep it tight but the Drua will win this running away. Drua by 11+. - Hurricanes forwards should win this game decisively. Win the ball, own the middle then let your backline sizzle. - Having changed my mind about 20 times, I will go the Reds on this one. Front row and reserves = evens, 2nd row close, back row = Reds, halves will have most of Australia watching, but the Reds have the wood on the Rebels in the centres and back 3 and reserve backs. Reds by 5+. Different styles but it will be fascinating to watch JOC vs the new Queenslander wunderkinder C.Gordon. Even so, the bloke I want a 2nd look at is the Reds reserve back Taj Annan. He played at inside centre for about 50-55 minutes against the Fijian Drua and he ran with the ball really well (laid on 2 tries) and defended solidly. He looks a very good player, want to see how he goes against the better structure of the Rebels. - Finally the Force should win this running away. Oops, I mean the Blues. :silly: In Short: Crusaders, Chiefs, Drua, Hurricanes, Reds and Force Blues. Sure Thing; BrettMac to tell all his friends and family the Brumbies have a rest week/bye as he sneaks off to watch the Raiders in mung0Land.

AUTHOR

2023-03-23T08:43:19+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


there's only one game on Sunday WTD, don't know if that changes things...

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