Twenty-four hours after being included in Eddie Jones’ Wallabies training camp, Suliasi Vunivalu is set to be dropped from the Queensland Reds’ side to take on the Brumbies on Good Friday.
Nor is he expected to be the only big name to be dropped, with Lawson Creighton training at fly-half and primed to be selected ahead of James O’Connor.
While The Roar last month first reported that Vunivalu is set to re-sign on a new two-year deal, his underwhelming showing against the Crusaders, which continued his sleepy start to 2023, appears to have forced Brad Thorn’s hand.
Sources have told The Roar that the former NRL flyer didn’t train with the matchday squad on Monday and is set to miss selection against the Brumbies.
Vunivalu struggled to get into the game against the Crusaders and was slow to turn when in the front line and was beaten to a kick by second-row teammate Ryan Smith.
That moment appears to have broken Brad Thorn’s patience, with the under-pressure Reds coach set to drop the cross-code star who has struggled to stay on the field and make an impression on it since winning his second premiership with the Melbourne Storm in 2020.
It comes after Jones said he was hoping to “prod” Vunivalu to bring out the best in the hulking winger, who was lured over by former Rugby Australia director of rugby Scott Johnson.
“Contradiction is a big part of selection. You’re always trying to find players you feel can be world class. That’s the ultimate task is to find players who can be world-class,” Jones told reporters on Sunday.
“And I’ve seen Vulivalu play for Melbourne Storm. I’ve seen him play in NRL. I’ve seen bits and pieces of his play for Australia A and bits and pieces of what he’s done for Queensland. There’s a lot of gaps in his game at the moment, but our job as coaches is to help him fill the gaps. So if you’ve got a cattle prod at training get it out, it might help him.”
Vunivalu isn’t the only player expected to be dropped for their crunch match against the Brumbies, with O’Connor likely to be dropped to the bench.
Thorn appears to have come down hard on O’Connor for not showing the accuracy to lead the Reds to victory.
The 32-year-old failed to find touch early from a penalty and after losing the goal-kicking duties to Isaac Henry bizarrely was asked to land a late shot at goals.
Nonetheless, it’s a curious decision in what shapes as a crucial match for Thorn’s Reds, who have gone backward since taking out the 2021 Super Rugby AU competition.
The dual international, who is arguably the greatest cross-code convert, entered the year weighing up his future, but after a slow start, which hasn’t been helped by an injury crisis in the tight-five, it’s becoming increasingly likely that Thorn won’t coach the Reds next year.
Mick Heenan, who was brought in this year after years of success in club rugby and nurturing players through to the Reds, has been earmarked as Thorn’s successor ever since being announced as an assistant coach this year.
The Queensland Rugby Union widely respects Thorn and for helping the franchise get back on track after stumbling in the post-Ewen McKenzie years.
But a decision will need to be made imminently to help their retention and recruitment drive over the next 12 months, having lost a number of crucial pieces of the puzzle in recent years including Taniela Tupou.
The Reds are hoping to keep Thorn in their coaching system.
Dusty10
Roar Rookie
Hi Yabbie, probably my favourite Andrew Walker moment was the tackle he made on a Chiefs player, from memory, where he came across and cut him down near the sideline, jolted the ball free, it fell into Roff's arms who took off downfield, while Walker jumps back to his feet, supports Roff on the inside, takes the ball, swerves right and wrong-foots two Chiefs defenders to score. Just BRILLIANT.
Hooter
Roar Rookie
Nope, Yabbie. Brumbies boy.
The Yabbie
Roar Rookie
No one gave a hoot then and no one gives a hoot now.
The Yabbie
Roar Rookie
Hooter you sound like a queenslander. Are you a queenslander?
The Yabbie
Roar Rookie
I remember when he came from easts. I also remember him carving up during broken play thinking wow this guy is amazing. But I don’t remember his boot or Défense.
Jacko
Roar Rookie
Both the Force and Rebels played on tour the entire competition both years. Twas that must also totally devalue the Reds 2011 win. Saders played entire season without a home.
ScottD
Roar Guru
I think Thornes job is to do the best he can for Queensland rugby mate. Whenever state coaches do the best for Australian rugby someone shafts them so i can see why they would be a bit leery of doing that again.
ScottD
Roar Guru
He has a huge rugby brain, but sometimes his body lets him down.
Jacko
Roar Rookie
I think he should go elsewhere. Anywhere but Aus. Aus rugby is a toxic place for NZ coaches.
Jacko
Roar Rookie
Hah yeah but Thrush came back.... :laughing: :laughing:
Big Dave
Roar Rookie
Yes...but a good coach needs to be able to anticipate that and adapt, right?
ScottD
Roar Guru
Do you think that maybe a few teams have worked out their strengths this year whereas last year they were a bit unknown?
ScottD
Roar Guru
Much as I agree with what you are saying, I don't think using the Force as one of the three is fair. The average of the team was 104 yrs so some had to leave to get the pension.
ScottD
Roar Guru
lol
Tony Harper
Editor
This aged well...
Jacko
Roar Rookie
Wow Twas... 4 players!!! Such an exodus eh. And two were caught using drugs. Nick Frisby???? Really? What a star! Thanks so much for proving my point that all sides lose players and the Reds under Thorn are certainly no worse than any others and just based on this year alone are twice as good at the Force, Rebels and Tahs and better than the Brumbies.
ScottD
Roar Guru
Yep
ScottD
Roar Guru
Who?
Wolla Wotsa
Roar Rookie
"He represents Australia in rugby league and then switches, not just codes, but countries (!) to represent New Zealand in union. Why? Loyalty to country?" Yep that was a shocker. He should have represented the kiwis in league too if he was gunna jump nations and play for the abs. He`s always been a new zealander at heart .Probably why he was hardly ever selected for the Kangaroos. The coaches could see his heart wasn`t in it, plus he had less talent than the other league backrowers too.
Train Without A Station
Roar Guru
The Rebels lost a bucketload of players too (good ones not the ones that they got an upgrade on). Like Toby Smith, James Hanson, Sean McMahon, Mitch Inman and Dom Shipperly