'The worst bombing I ever got': Advice from 'the GOAT' that helped Ned Hanigan tune out the haters

By Roar Rugby Podcast / Editor

The biggest serve Ned Hanigan ever received was in in Brisbane – but he wasn’t wearing the blue of New South Wales as you might expect, but the gold of the Wallabies.

Hanigan isn’t the first player, and won’t be the last, to experience the fickleness of rugby fans. He’s been abused in person and on these very forums, and, being human, plenty of it stuck.

“The worst bombing I’ve got on the field was at Suncorp Stadium. I had a yellow jersey on and I’m just absolutely getting fed by some fella. I remember thinking ‘we’re on the same side tonight, brother’!”

Hanigan was a guest on The Roar Rugby Podcast with Brett McKay and Harry Jones on Tuesday. He reflected on his time in Japan and return to the Tahs and Wallabies in a chat that was fun and light-hearted but with serious message at its core.

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Hanigan revealed it took some advice from NFL star Tom Brady to put criticism into perspective after going through a tough time with online abuse.

“You get your professional contract, you’ve come out of playing a bit of good footy as a junior there’s a bit of good chat, then probably not a lot of chat – unless you’re Jorgo [Max Jorgensen] and you score two tries on a debut.

“It’s probably a little bit of a lull where you’re building your body and getting used to the intensity of what Super footy was like. Then you start playing a little bit more footy and you’re hungrier, stronger and faster.

“I debuted in 2016-17 and played 13 or so Tests that year. It was all good. What happens is you go into form and come out of form and that’s where you try and strive for consistency.

“In 2018 I just went into a form slump and I definitely wasn’t prepared for the scrutiny from outsiders.

“I’m reading things when they were good and you’re feeling good. That’s still reactionary, you’re still letting comments and people’s suggestions affect the way you’re feeling and although it doesn’t feel bad at that time that turns.
“You’re attached to it. So you start feeling bad and it’s no good. You see it not just in rugby union. NRL recently has had a fair few blokes coming out to talk about it.

“It’s important that as players we understand sometimes when blokes are going through things and if it’s an arm around approach or a more of a direct approach and how you can fix certain things.

“I remember listening to Tom Brady, and he’s the GOAT you know? A bloke who is constant, but there’s been periods and there’s been games where he’s lost and he’s just been absolutely sprayed.

“He said on a podcast ‘you can’t let people’s opinions or voice determine how you feel because it’s giving them control’. You’ve got to take all the control yourself. Once I convinced myself don’t read the good, don’t read the bad, it’s neither here nor there, I concentrated on being consistent footballer and just trying to be better and ended up having a mindset of being determined to get better.”

Ned Hanigan during Australia rugby squad training at the UCD Bowl in Belfield, Dublin. (Photo By Eóin Noonan/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

For all the self-help, or Brady-help if you like, Hanigan says damage is unavoidable if the abuse is relentless.

“I would say this: there’s no way that if an individual cops any of it over an extended period of time, it’s not going to have some effect on them. It is going to. You can’t really properly escape it and and it’s just important for people to know that it’s going to have a detrimental effect.”

Hanigan said it was important for players to have a close circle of friends to lean on but to also understand their role in the game.

“Initially, you probably don’t realise the impact you can have,” Hanigan said. “Whether it be good or bad you probably don’t. The feeling of representing people, that part has always been quite close to me as the reason I play the game.

“The kid on the side after the game who has stayed around and they want you to sign a ball and you might ask what his name is and he’s speechless. You realise if you spend time with that kid, give him a rub on the head, he’s in rugby for life. That’s the impact you can have and it can’t be taken for granted.”

Hanigan has hopes of going to the World Cup under Eddie Jones this year and was asked what position he preferred after being used as a No.6 and as lock.

“You’re always going to have preferences because it’s where you think you can do the most for the team. But that’s kind of the beauty of team sport. You might feel like you are better in a position or doing a certain thing,” Hanigan explained.

“I prefer playing six but if DC [Darren Coleman], or whoever is coaching, says ‘this week you’re at four I’m going to apply myself as best I can and and still try and bring that particular skill set to that position.

“I’ve got aspirations and goals to pull on the yellow jersey later on in the year and go on to win a World Cup. The Bledisloe, that’s just something that you want it real bad,  and you have to be like that and feel like that, for it to be able to go clos.

“If I’m a part of that and Eddie was to say ‘you’re [playing as ] a centre’ because he thought that was the best, then I’m a goer!

“I’ve always loved playing six. I don’t  mind backing in at eight either. But some of the games I’ve played I’ve been playing lock. But it really doesn’t worry me. It’s more about the mindset of how you’re going to apply yourself in that position and where you want to go.”

 

The Crowd Says:

2023-05-25T06:20:49+00:00

Guess

Roar Rookie


Yes I agree when dedicated people leave the quality drops and it becomes too shallow and waste of time at some point

2023-05-25T01:47:24+00:00

Revok

Roar Rookie


Ned Flanders is not a test match lock or blindside flanker. Good at super level, but not test level. when the stakes higher and the players are more skilled and brutal. That`s fine we will always disagree on Ned. Hunter is no Kerevi. He has more potential to be a good 13 imo, but Lenny is number one there. Agree he is good value as a 12/13 if injuries occur as he has performed in test matches so will possibly get the nod unless Eddie prefers Foketi,.

2023-05-24T19:49:50+00:00

savant

Roar Rookie


Hooper has been penalized and carded more often

2023-05-24T13:08:23+00:00

The Ferret

Roar Rookie


But he can do both consistently. Is he a starter or even in my match day 23 outside of the minnow games? If there are a couple of injuries, players who cover more positions at a solid consistent level are of high value. Hunter Pasami is another player who i fit in this category. Is he my starting 12 or 13? nope, but i'll bring him for the trip to france because he can cover both if there is an injury.

2023-05-24T13:08:18+00:00

Qualify

Roar Rookie


He was clearly referring to those who made the point that he should be selected. And while I agree that he should be respected for trying, both points have merit.

2023-05-24T09:59:46+00:00

Revok

Roar Rookie


What's he versatile at? He is too short for test lock and lacks impact as a test 6.

2023-05-24T09:52:57+00:00

Brion

Roar Rookie


2017 not 2015. Cheika was a disgraceful person. And the worst Wallaby coach of all time. I'll never forgive him for discarding Higgers Fardy and Cooper.

2023-05-24T09:47:31+00:00

Rolando

Roar Rookie


I agree that Higgers deserved to keep his spot. I also agree that Cheika appeared to have a problem with both Fardy and Higgers. I’ve always wondered whether it was because they both gave away too many penalties and got carded way too often compared to other 6’s and 8’s. Perhaps Cheika thought they were unwilling to discipline themselves for the sake of the team? For all their talent and advantages they could end up reducing their team to 14 and giving points to the opposition. Otherwise, yes, I wondered if it was because they didn’t concede enough personal power to Cheik.

2023-05-24T07:42:11+00:00

Wizz

Roar Rookie


Yes Tooly slightly pretentious...

2023-05-24T07:35:07+00:00

Rolando

Roar Rookie


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2023-05-24T06:52:12+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


The point was not whether he should be selected or not. The point was that selected or not, he should be respected for his commitment, courage and effort. Not ridiculed and insulted by anonymous heroes firing condescension from their couch.

2023-05-24T06:14:56+00:00

Qualify

Roar Rookie


His point was Ned hasn't proved himself after numerous attempts. He said Ned is average. Then this guy comes and calls him average. If you don't like the way he expresses his opinion, then say it. But at least try and argue his point.

2023-05-24T06:07:53+00:00

Qualify

Roar Rookie


Agreed, the criticism doesn't have to be vitriolic. As mentioned many times before, sure he's a top bloke (and I'm weary of the halo-effect), but he had way more chances than most ever get, and he could never cement his spot. Jake Gordon and NL also come to mind. There are better 6's and locks at the moment that deserve a look in before him. I have no doubt that if he keeps pushing, he's time will come again.

2023-05-24T06:02:44+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


NTFPoint mate.

2023-05-24T06:01:59+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Careful JD, there is ice in the Tasman, and it’s a wee bit thin.

2023-05-24T05:24:52+00:00

Mike88

Roar Rookie


Not sure if that was directed at me. No I'm not saying anything about age. I'm saying that I absolutely do not believe that Hanigan has the intrinsics to be an international 6 BUT that there's no shame in saying he's a professional/ super rugby 6 which is a huge achievement. It's not wallabies or failure. There's great 6s in professional comps all around the world who haven't cut it or won't make it internationally.

2023-05-24T02:51:48+00:00

Nick Maguire

Roar Rookie


:thumbup: :rugby:

2023-05-24T02:47:04+00:00

savant

Roar Rookie


Yeah you're right. He can only do what's asked of him. I take that back.

2023-05-24T02:45:39+00:00

savant

Roar Rookie


A cursory glance on the internet will show that Higginbotham was selected to play against Fiji at number 8 in June 2017. Hanigan was selected at 6 and it was his debut. In the next game against Scotland Higgers was again chosen at 8 and Hanigan at 6. After that test Higgers was dropped for 'lack of impact'. I guess I wasn't being clear. Higgers was technically dropped for Lopeti Timani in the 8 position. Hanigan retained his place at 6. When asked by journalists if he had considered Higgers at 6, Cheika replied that Higgers was strictly an 8 not a 6. This despite the fact that Higgers played 6 for the Reds when they won the Super Rugby championship and played for 6 for the Wallabies when we had a rare victory over the All Blacks. It was a concocted excuse to leave him out. This is what people remember and poor old Ned was innocent and caught in the middle. Cheika just didn't like Higgers. He didn't like Fardy either. They were men not boys and not easily controlled. They were experienced and asked questions. As did Cooper. Cheika didn't like players like that.

2023-05-24T02:41:03+00:00

Nick Maguire

Roar Rookie


sav, "he needs to acknowledge that he didn’t earn the early ride he had" No he doesn't. Players play and Coaches select. He worked just as hard and if the Coach/selectors wanted him he just gets on with it. You won't hear hear the players carrying on like this, they know how it is and they just play.

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