ANALYSIS: The four types of No.9s and how Eddie's tactics will determine Nic White's World Cup partner

By Sam Larner / Expert

It looks almost certain that Nic White will be included in Eddie Jones’ Test squad. He has been ever present since 2019 and was once again included in Jones’ first squad. There is nothing to suggest he will be unseated in the run up to the 2023 World Cup.

However, modern scrum halves rarely make it beyond the hour mark in matches. That leaves at least a quarter of the match in the hands of someone else. Who that person will be is far less certain. These are the standout options for the the other scrum half in the 23, and they have different characteristics.

The Controller

White is the best of the regular starters in Super Rugby by the number of turnovers conceded. He has allowed just three turnovers all season. That is a spectacular level of consistency for any scrum-half, a position which sees a huge amount touches per game. However, if we assume White is already safe, then the next most consistent performer is Issak Fines-Leleiwasa. The Western Force scrum-half has been thrust into the starting role this season after a three season period of being the back-up.

He has conceded seven turnovers, which still puts him near the top of the most consistent players. However, he hasn’t conceded a single penalty, something only Samoan Ere Enari achieved among nines in this year’s Six Nations. Fines-Leleiwasa hasn’t put a foot wrong with his kicking either. None of his 22 kicks have ended in an error. His 75% tackle success rate is the second best in the league.

Issak Fines-Leleiwasa of the Force (Photo by Paul Kane/Getty Images)

Fines-Leleiwasa has experience with White. He played alongside White back in 2021 but didn’t deputise for him. Instead, Fines-Leleiwasa played on the wing with Ryan Lonergan stepping in for White. It is particularly impressive that Fines-Leleiwasa has such control when you consider he has only been a fulltime scrum-half since 2022. He probably won’t get a look-in with Australia, but he should at least be part of the conversation.

The Exciting Carrier

Tate McDermott has had plenty of Australian chances before now. His Australia debut came in 2020 and he has consistently been involved since then, although he has started just once in the past two seasons. He is the most exciting carrying scrum-half Australia have to call on. He has five line breaks, 33 defenders beaten, and 15 offloads, all of those stats are either the best or second best among scrum-halves. The issue is one as old as time though. Unless you’re Antoine Dupont, you can’t carry a huge amount and launch high-risk offloads without conceding a huge amount of turnovers.

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McDermott would, and has, acted as a good foil for White. He would benefit from White controlling the game for the first hour before he comes in and finishes the job against a tiring defence when his running game comes into its own. That’s the dream of course. The problem is can McDermott deliver when control is needed? His performances this year suggest he could. When the Reds beat the Chiefs in New Zealand, he played the entire game. He has played at least 70 minutes in five of his 13 starts this season. Will Eddie Jones trust him to bring that form into the international arena?

The Kicker

Eddie Jones selected Carter Gordon and Ben Donaldson as his only two fly-halves in his recent squad – although, of course he had Quade Cooper and Bernard Foley on Zoom from France. Gordon has kicked at goal successfully just ten times in the last three seasons. Ben Donaldson kicks far more regularly but he has been replaced as kicker by various team members throughout the last few seasons. It therefore becomes crucial that there is a confident kicker somewhere else in the team. Jones could do worse than selecting Ryan Lonergan for this job. The Brumbies’ nine has kicked at goal 27 times this year, 21 times successfully.

Lonergan isn’t just a goal kicker though. He has turned into a very strong defender. His three breakdown steals are third best among scrum-halves and his 97 attempted tackles are also third best. He has also had fewer inaccurate passes than White. The challenge is a fairly obvious one; if Lonergan is your kicker then he has to start. Based on his stats this season, he probably hasn’t done enough to warrant that. The Brumbies have thought the same thing. They started Lonergan over White in the first two rounds but since then he has been on the subs bench and only starting when White isn’t in the 23.

Ryan Lonergan (Photo by Getty Images)

The Try Scorer

Jake Gordon’s five tries are the second most among scrum-halves and the most for an Australian. He started the amazing come from behind victory against Wales, but it was his second start of the season and the second time he received a sin bin. It’s worth mentioning that the comeback against Wales really began when Gordon departed, and McDermott came on.

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Gordon is a threat in broken field. He is a huge danger if your defence is tiring. The above clip is another example of the threat he poses if given half a chance. However, as evidenced by his two sin bins for the national team, he has a significant discipline problem. He has conceded a frankly extraordinary 10 penalties. That’s the most by a scrum-half.

The Waratahs trust him though, he has started every single match and played 70 minutes or more in nine of those matches. He has made the most passes in Super Rugby but has just 22 incomplete passes, that’s fewer than some nines who have made significantly fewer passes. His 70 kicks from hand are also league leading for his position but he has yet to make any kick errors. He has holes in his game but this year he is the most experienced nine in the competition. He deserves to have another crack, even if his discipline is the weak spot.

This isn’t a complete list of every scrum-half who might be considered, but these are the names that Jones should definitely consider. Now it’s up to you to decide in which direction you go.

The Crowd Says:

2023-06-01T23:45:25+00:00

Riktor

Roar Rookie


Exactly, White and Lonergan are slow, especially White. With Quade the best at putting players into space he`d be a dangerous prospect. Tate is a must for the best Wallaby 23. He can unlock defences with his sniping and blistering speed also like no other Aussie scrumhalf can. We haven`t had a speedy scrumhalf since Will Genia. If Eddie wants to win, McDermott must play.

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2023-06-01T15:37:30+00:00

Sam Larner

Expert


I think one of the issues with White is that he's barely kicked at all since the 2013/14 season. Not to say he can't, but he'd be a high risk person to lean on as a kicker.

2023-05-31T17:42:21+00:00

Francisco Roldan

Roar Rookie


How are you Sam...! Good comparative analysis. I really appreciate the work of Jack Gordon (especially his long pass) but there is no one like Tate to attack the base of formations and from the unstructured game (his long pass is too weak for now). I take Nick White's tenure at AUS for granted. But, unfortunately they are all quite far from the current world standard for the position (Before Aaron Smith, today Dupont or J. Gibson-Park). I think that the ideal is to respect the size of the opponents and insert the 9 that respond to the formulated game plan. That, theoretically, would give everyone the chance to work.

2023-05-31T14:50:31+00:00

MO

Roar Rookie


Hi CM. Fines played Oz 20s. He’s just had awful luck with injuries over the years. He has elite pace. Was superb for the Force in their nrc win. He’s not actually a bolt from the blue. He’s an eastern stater who the force picked up. I think qld but would have to Google. Fines shoulda gone to japan years ago. Glad he stayed

2023-05-31T14:44:41+00:00

MO

Roar Rookie


Hi Sam fines has been a 9 since Oz 20s. Has had terrible timing with season ending injuries over the years so never quite got to cement his spot as the apprentice 9. Kept getting pushed out. Force picked him up a few years ago and he was great in the NRC. He has elite level pace and can run similar to Tate. He’s a try scorer. Gordon is more a solid defender for mine. The force for various reasons started captain ian prior ahead of fines far too many times. If not for the injuries and their timing fines would be sitting in the Tate position as the dangerous runner. Fines went to brumbies becoz the force were cut. COVID put the force back in. If they knew force playing super then fines and Hardwick or tizzano? Would have stayed. Nick Phipps by all accounts learned to pass when he went to London Irish at the end of his career!!! I’d go white Tate combo coz I love tates passion and pace. Lonegran as third. Solid guy with a good place kick. Rather he kicks than hodge.

2023-05-31T14:28:06+00:00

MO

Roar Rookie


Yeah lucky but with Quade playing he could put Tate into space thus forming a very dangerous combo.

2023-05-31T12:55:31+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Thanks! After a deep think, I’ve got it: White, TWB, Lonergan (Gordon hang out in Paris just in case). Mostly bc of how I think EJ will/must play in QF/SF.

2023-05-31T12:53:20+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


An excellent point, in KO matches.

2023-05-31T12:53:03+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


He also has the tightest spiral on his long passes of the top Aussie 9s.

2023-05-31T11:48:13+00:00

Bingo

Roar Rookie


Haha

2023-05-31T11:08:39+00:00

Tuc Du Nard

Roar Rookie


No wonder Gordon plays more minutes- he’s always organising his forwards, creating caterpillars and wasting time and having a breather before he just kicks. More time taken stuffing around than any in the comp imo. Boring player who lacks X factor but I admit does have pace.

2023-05-31T09:46:58+00:00

Old school rugby

Roar Rookie


I don’t think J Gordon and C Gordon are the best combination anyway. So agree I don’t want these two Gordon’s in a team either. I will take Carter in my team on any day.

2023-05-31T09:13:05+00:00

Bingo

Roar Rookie


Don’t think we want 2 Gordons in the team. Thomas the tank engine only had one Gordon and the wallabies train should do the same. The only time I would have 2 Gordons would be with tonic. McDermott has the X factor and with good forwards in front of him will be an incredible asset in France.

2023-05-31T08:43:05+00:00

Old school rugby

Roar Rookie


Agree 100%. As a QLDer I want to promote Tate but the ball is too slow and too often misses the mark. QC and Carter Gordon are the best to make the best out of a bad situation but will cost time if EJ wants to capitalise on minimal phases. At least White and Lonergan will manage the ball for the set plays and let the flyhalf find space.

2023-05-31T08:22:06+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Nice one Sam. Worth calling out on Gordon, has made the most passes in Super Rugby but has just 22 incomplete passes Given the Tahs attack structure he's thrown a lot more shorter passes to forward runners, rather than hitting his 10 wider. Think that has a lot to do with the lack of incomplete passes

2023-05-31T08:20:38+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Love it. Burkey a Red and Slattery and Flatley had a love-child?

2023-05-31T08:15:55+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


G'day Stuart, interesting comment on Gordon defensively. At the Tahs, he's often reserved from the defensive system and given licence to shoot/go for intercepts. I wouldn't have him in the Wallabies based on past performance, I love him for the Tahs though.

2023-05-31T07:40:17+00:00

Objective Observer

Roar Rookie


I don’t that that is a fair assessment of recent form. Historically White may have been well ahead but his play has him closer to the others at present.

2023-05-31T07:38:17+00:00

Objective Observer

Roar Rookie


Dusty, most of the Brumbies fan don’t see any weakness in White. I would add that the box kick is not that accurate, my other concern is that he is fairly slow to elect to play the ball and will usually not pass from the base of the ruck but pick up the ball then pass. My concern is that his play is slow allowing the defence time. I think all of the 3 other contenders play more quickly. I would expect that if we plan to play a power game we will want to play quickly.

2023-05-31T06:56:36+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


I can see how you make that point. I think Gordon runs the Tahs a lot better than Lonergan runs the Brumbies. If you’re falling short at SR level, I’m not sure it makes sense to think you’ll be better a level up

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