'Win or lose it will be time to go': Eddie makes bizarre contract claim, says Skelton's world's best, adds huge Arnold hint

By Tony Harper / Editor

Eddie Jones has declared that win or lose it will be time to leave his job as Wallabies coach after the World Cup.

Jones, speaking on the Evening Standard Rugby Podcast, also made his thoughts clear on the Giteau law, praising Will Skelton as the best in the world in his position and giving a huge hint that Richie Arnold is in line for a World Cup spot.

Jones sensationally signed a deal in January that takes him through the end of the next World Cup in 2027 but rejected suggestions he was in it for the long haul.

“I’m only coaching to this World Cup,” Jones said. “I’ve signed, but as I’ve made the mistake before, I’ve stayed too long. So we win the World Cup it will be time to go. If we lose the World Cup it will be time to go.”

Whether Jones genuinely belies that, or it’s another example of the veteran’s mind games, only he knows right now. He has talked of the World Cup campaign as being a “smash and grab” and anything is possible whichever scenario works out for the Wallabies in France.

Wallabies coach Eddie Jones during an Australia Wallabies training camp at Sanctuary Cove on April 18, 2023 in Gold Coast, Australia. (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

One matter to be worked out is what happens with the Giteau Law. There have been suggestions that Jones will get what he wants for this campaign – but, surprisingly, he suggests the approach hasn’t been locked down less than four months from the opening World Cup game on September 9.

“The Wallabies have a law called the Giteau Law where you could only have three players outside Australia with 30 caps,” Jones told the podcast.

“We haven’t tabled that with the board yet, but I’m sure we’re going to get a positive response on getting more players. Because we’ve got [Will] Skelton, who’s probably the best right-sided lock in the world, Richie Arnold at Toulouse, who’s a fantastic player in the Top 14.

“Quade Cooper, [Samu] Kerevi, [Marika] Koroibete – we can’t snub that sort of talent. I think Australians are always better when they are underdogs, when everyone thinks they haven’t got a sniff of it. They can come in under the radar.”

Cooper was a member of Jones’ Barbarians team that played against a World XV in London on the weekend. The pair have a long history, and the No.10 looks nailed on – injuries allowing – to be trusted with the No.10 jersey in France.

“I had him first year out of school, and I was spending most of our time trying to work out where he was,” said Jones. “And now he’s matured into a real professional. Just look at the way he looks after his body now. Talking about the Barbarians, he’s been in the gym every morning training and he’ll be a significant player for us.”

Jones revealed he has had weekly catch ups with the team’s leadership group – he had six involved at the camp and Cooper is likely to be part of that core group as well.

“That’s one of the advantages of being in more of a franchised situation – to do that in England with the clubs, it’d be almost impossible in today’s environment because you’re not going to get that exposure to them.

“We are trying to build that leadership group up to being a team that’s led by the team, not a team that’s led by the coach.

“We’re working hard on developing an Australian style of play – we’ve lost that a little bit. We’ve become too much like the Kiwis and tried to play their way, which is the way most teams in the world try to look at the game.

“We’re trying to go back to a more abrasive, aggressive style in your face Australian game.”

He said the other focus was “to get that balance right between hard work and enjoyment. Because the World Cup is going to be quite challenging in France. We’re in a little place called St Etienne.  It’s not the most exciting place in the world. So we’re going to have to create a good environment for the players to not only enjoy it but work really hard.”

That would also shape how he picks his 33-man squad for the tournament.

“Having been to a few World Cups, what we try to do is pick the top XV and then we’ll pick the bottom five and the bottom five will be more about character, guys who want to train hard, are good round the team, have got a bit of life about them,” said Jones.

“You can’t have your third hooker or your third fly-half kicking stones, they are the ones who cause problems, so you need them to be good characters, positive characters.”

 Eddie Jones talks with members of his  leadership group during his first training camp . (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

As for the Wallabies’ chances, he suggested the current world ranking of 7 and that accompanying low level of expectation might suit his team.

“Australians are always better when they’re underdogs. When everyone thinks they can they haven’t got a sniff of it they can come in under the radar,” said Jones.

“You look at it – seven teams right at the top of World Rugby. It’s never been this way. Whilst Ireland and France have been dominant, I don’t think there is any team that doesn’t think they can beat those two, whereas we’ve had in previous World Cups New Zealand being miles ahead, clear favourites – this World Cup is going to be different.”

The Crowd Says:

2023-06-03T07:22:00+00:00

Archie

Roar Rookie


Yeah, nothing like your new coach saying "I don't believe in the players and think it's that much of a waste of time to lead them that I'm going to cut my multi-million dollar contract short by 4 years before they've even played one game". What a dog. His job is to coach the team to success and develop the talent, not blame the SR coaches for their results against the best players in the world. I just can't understand how this will help the Australian players or fans in the slightest.

2023-06-02T07:41:26+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


“If you say Will Skelton is the Wallaby`s trump card against the proven top 6 ranked test packs you are delusional. The fella cant jump or push in scrums for starters. Coupled with fact he is slow to reload and overweight.” You’re entitled to an opinion but the second sentence shows me you haven’t watched him play for 6 years

2023-06-02T01:49:00+00:00

Revok

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If you say Will Skelton is the Wallaby`s trump card against the proven top 6 ranked test packs you are delusional. The fella cant jump or push in scrums for starters. Coupled with fact he is slow to reload and overweight. He made zero difference last year. Lost all the games he played in. Eddie is dreamin if he thinks Skelton is the best right lock in the world when he hasn`t shown that in any of his 20 tests.

2023-06-01T23:36:39+00:00

Kevin Kranston

Roar Rookie


Willy is so amazing Eddie will start him for the Wallabies and he will play 60 mins and he will destroy everyone. He can do it all from second row. The best right side lock in the world apparently.

2023-06-01T20:35:09+00:00

Ucnthandlethtruth

Roar Rookie


Just STFU and coach the team mate

2023-06-01T13:41:39+00:00

Brendan NH Fan

Roar Rookie


I guess we will have to wait and see. Beating the Boks at home is easy for Oz but last win outside of Oz was 2011. As the WC is not in Oz we will have to see how they do.

2023-06-01T13:33:59+00:00

Derek Murray

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I simply don't care to continue to discuss this. We are a rank outsider to win a WC with him. We have no chance without

2023-06-01T13:28:26+00:00

Gasher

Roar Rookie


The Wallabies dominated the Giant Boks in 2021 without Skelton. He is not needed.

2023-06-01T13:26:36+00:00

Gasher

Roar Rookie


He didnt prove anyone wrong as the Wallabies still lost with Skelton. He wasn't a standout in any game on tour in Europe last year. And i've yet to see Will Skelton have a great game im a test match.

2023-06-01T13:20:57+00:00

Gasher

Roar Rookie


They still lost.

2023-06-01T12:13:35+00:00

ojp44

Roar Rookie


I actually agree with you Brendan, I was just trying to capture the Oz mindset.

2023-06-01T11:00:28+00:00

Wizz

Roar Rookie


What is Eddie half Japanese half Welsh because if true I can see why he lives on riddles..

2023-06-01T10:56:59+00:00

Wizz

Roar Rookie


Yes make semi epic game goal or two in it success..Make final OZ rugby back limp out quarter McLennan too go,don't get out of pool Eddie too go!!

2023-06-01T10:53:03+00:00

Wizz

Roar Rookie


Our scrum was good with Rennie in fairness...don't think too many were handling us All blacks scrum most certainly not like it once was not Boks front row either..We didn't beat Boks three out of four going backwards in scrums but Loftus with not best front row on field massive test.

2023-06-01T07:21:41+00:00

Rusty

Roar Guru


The game vs the Bulls they scored on the last play of the game and made it look respectable. Outside of Sexton it was a full stack and the Bulls were ahead from 25min till practically the end by more than a score. Compared to La Rochelle coming from behind and literally winning in the last few mins two years running. Of course that speaks volumes to the quality of La Rochelle and Skeltons contribution but its certainly not the only point of difference required to beat them. Ulster winning home and a way in 21/22 was for me seriously impressive - yes, its the league phase but hard enough to beat Leinster once in a season but twice.. and 10-20 away!

2023-06-01T06:22:58+00:00

Passit2me

Roar Rookie


It wouldn't surprise me if he goes back to Japan. I think they have a mindset more in tune with Eddies approach and he may feel he can lift them much higher than they are now.

2023-06-01T06:19:50+00:00

Passit2me

Roar Rookie


Yeah I read that. I assumed he meant the 2027 WC.

2023-06-01T03:37:17+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


All good Chivas. This one baffles me too. We lost a lot of Rennie to get a little bit of Eddie.

2023-06-01T02:45:40+00:00

Qualify

Roar Rookie


I'll have a watch, but I heard he was amazing.

2023-06-01T01:16:25+00:00

MattTheContrarian

Roar Rookie


Give La Rochelle's final this year a watch. And last years. Those performances answer some big questions. :happy:

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