COMMENT: ‘Making a choice’ - what are the REAL options available for Australia's third tier?

By Nick Wasiliev / Editor

Australian rugby is on the move, in every sense of the word. But where it is moving to is the critical question. 

Following the news that Phil Waugh is looking into creating a crossover club competition involving the Shute Shield and Hospital Cup, I decided to sit down to write this duology of articles covering, in my opinion, one of the most critical topics in Australian rugby right now. 

Yesterday, in part one, I discussed that before we can have any discussion on this competition, we need to come to an agreed sense of the purpose of our third tier. From many of the comments in reaction to the article, the purpose of the third tier is something many fans do NOT agree on. I’m not surprised to see such a reaction.

Nicholas Stirzaker of Melbourne prepares for the scrum feed during the round two NRC match between Melbourne and Fiji at Harlequins Rugby Club on September 9, 2017 in Melbourne, Australia. (Photo by Darrian Traynor/Getty Images)

Is it a pure development pathway? Is it aiming to engage fans? Not to mention, once we have an agreement on the third tier’s purpose, how do we pay for the damn thing?

Now, full disclosure, this is a complex topic, and I’m one bloke floating in a sea of opinions about the third tier. I start by saying that these options below are my opinions, and I welcome discussion on it. I have been extremely lucky to have covered multiple premier grade competitions nationwide for a few years at this point (in addition to the NRC), so I hope that these suggestions and my thoughts on them come from the background of seeing what already exists in the Australian rugby landscape. 

I know I’m not the only one thinking about this, following news on Monday that the Brumbies are embarking on a two match tour of Japan, following the Western Force’s lead after they  announced in April a four match tour against the Cheetahs in South Africa. 

“We identified early last year that without a formalised development competition in Australia, we needed to explore other options and this tour will provide the players and our staff a critical development opportunity but also an enriching cultural experience,” highlighted Brumbies coach Stephen Larkham in Monday’s announcement.

With our professional arm already looking at other options, for me there are three options forward for Australian rugby. 

None of these solutions are perfect, but each aims to try and address the two key challenges mentioned earlier: either serve as a development pathway or as a means to attract fans, plus also address the key hurdle of funding.

Rhian Stowers in action for Bond University (Photo by Stephen Tremain)

 Option One: An Australian Club Competition

The option that Phil Waugh is currently looking at, the focus of this competition would be premier grade clubs. While the details of such a competition are unclear, the premise would be that the best of the Shute Shield would go toe-to-toe with the best of the Hospital Cup. 

On paper, it makes sense: despite the growth in other interstate competitions, the vast majority of Australia’s players still come out of these two states. These are established premier grade club systems with decades of history in their respective competitions, established support with several Super Rugby sides, and a connection to local communities. 

Many players who play in these teams still go on to higher honours like the Wallabies, which would further connect fans with our national team. The site of seeing Quade Cooper playing for Souths or James O’Connor at Brothers was huge for community fans. For those clubs involved, it would be a huge positive, extending professional players’ game time past the end of the club rugby season in August/September. 

Realistically speaking, a club partnership model would be the only way for this to financially work, similar to what is currently happening in the US’ MLR comp, where the clubs with money and infrastructure buy their way in, and as such, take the risk but also the potential reward from such a comp doing well. While having a stake could be positive for all clubs involved to drive success, as we’ve seen in MLR it also would be at the clubs own financial risk. Currently, three clubs have been lost along the way in that competition.

It could work. That being said, I have huge reservations about this form of competition. My personal opinion is that our premier grade competitions are one of our great strengths, and their primary focus should be to maintain the performance of their respective competitions. The responsibility of any professional development pathways should fall on the professional arm of the game.

When I hear about club competitions, my head is immediately filled with questions, and not all of them are good: which teams are excluded? Which will be included? Will those teams included become professional? If they do, will that affect the quality and competitiveness of our premier grade competitions?

Will only NSW and Queensland be included? Considering the complaints people in those states have regarding the Brumbies, Force and Rebels pinching players from those state competitions, will that only accelerate so they can get game time in this new comp? And what about the club competitions outside of the Shute Shield and Hospital Cup? Are they just left out? 

Teams like Tuggeranong Vikings I would argue would be more than competitive in such a club competition, especially with the success previous Canberra rep teams have had in both NSW and Queensland. Also, wasn’t one of the key goals for having teams like the Rebels and Force be so that the game can grow in those respective states? Don’t we want to get to a point where the Force, for example, has a team of predominantly homegrown players? 

I even have questions about interstate fan engagement. Yes, there is a strong NSW/QLD rivalry, but does that extend to clubland levels? There is the annual Australian Club Championship challenge match between the Hospital Cup winner and the Shute Shield winner, but how much interest does that attract, especially compared to each state’s respective grand finals or even previous NRC games? 

For me, fans love to hate the likes of UQ and Sydney Uni because of the context of the competitions they are in. Warringah supporters are more interested in fixtures like the Battle of the Beach with Manly, that is where their identity is built from. Would they care about a match against Sunnybank? Is there an established rivalry between Brothers and Eastwood, for example? Would Easts Tigers care about a clash with Western Sydney, or would they prefer a Queensland derby in UQ? What happens if one state totally dominates another, like in Super Rugby?

This is not an outright rejection of this competition, but the jury is out for me until we have a clear structure and teams. Is it the right competition for Australian rugby?

Queensland players celebrate victory during the NRC Grand Final match between Canberra and Queensland Country at Viking Park on November 11, 2017 in Canberra, Australia. (Photo by Brett Hemmings/Getty Images)

Option Two: Return to an NRC-style Competition

The remaining two options are versions we have experimented with before, which unlike option one, gives us less grey area. 

The NRC endured a mixed reception, with the vast majority of criticism coming from the NSW club heartland that such a competition was potentially damaging to club comps.

It was true that its semi-pro format couldn’t compete with lucrative overseas offers, and some players were critical. Despite it’s relative success everywhere else, it struggled to connect with the rugby audience in Sydney, with teams chopping and changing on multiple occasions throughout its tenure. 

The move to clubland grounds did make a difference, which saw original club players returning, but the interest didn’t compare to that of an established club competition in the Shute Shield. Truth be told, the NRC barely had a chance to make its own history before it was canceled. 

However, it would be wrong to assume that such a competition couldn’t work, just because the NRC encountered issues. Financially, the competition came in as relatively cost neutral because it was packaged for a broadcaster in Fox and, for a few years, had Buildcorp as a major sponsor. It wouldn’t take a lot to adapt the financial model of this competition into something that can complement the existing Super Rugby/Wallaby offerings. 

Quade Cooper of Brisbane City calls out to his team mates during the round one NRC match between Brisbane and Fiji at Ballymore Stadium on September 2, 2017 in Brisbane, Australia. (Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

This also leads onto another point: if teams will be run by the respective professional unions, the focus would be on a week-in, week-out comp involving professional players and the best of clubland: a pure development pathway. In this regard, the NRC found a lot more success.

In 2016, The Rugby Union Players Association conducted a survey of all the players and coaches at the end of the NRC about their experience, and found a lot of interesting results. Among them:

Some critics would argue that Australia’s results didn’t improve during the time of the NRC, and statistically that was the case. However, as is the case with many competitions like this, investment in such a comp doesn’t start to yield strong results until a good decade down the track, and it’s a shame the NRC didn’t last long enough to ensure as full an impact as it could have had. 

A return to such a competition would likely require a lot of financial tinkering, but as pointed out previously, New Zealand’s NPC competition isn’t exactly a money spinner, but has been constantly maintained due to the quality of players produced which sees investment recouped in strong Super Rugby sides and a strong All Blacks team. 

In my eyes, for this option, the professional arm of the game should be responsible for the management of such a development pathway. Question is, is a pure pathway competition the best option?

(Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

Option Three: make Super Rugby AU the main domestic competition

Many Australian fans found the thrown together domestic competition with our five Super Rugby sides to be the most engaged they’ve been in the game in years, as judging by the improved TV and streaming numbers the competition received (including a 1.3 million tv audience and the near 42k that turned out to the 2021 Grand Final in Brisbane). 

Frankly, Super Rugby AU came with a lack of baggage, because there was no context of us vs. the Kiwis. Australian teams would be winning, routinely. We could just enjoy rugby for rugby’s sake and the classic interstate rivalries that we fell in love with: an honestly liberating feeling for many Australian rugby fans. So, why not introduce it as our third tier competition that can run after Super Rugby Pacific wraps up?

While it is hard to tell whether such a model would be successful outside of the pandemic context, the calls to return to that format persist, and the appeal is that it could address both the fan engagement and the player development pathway.

You have established brands and infrastructure in five Super Rugby sides who could pull a crowd, and the ten round format plus finals gave Australia’s professional arm an additional 22 matches. Additionally, if you were to start player contracts from the start of the financial year, this would give the clubs an incentive to look for talent locally or nationally to fill their ranks, making SR AU a perfect pre-season season.

However, an integration with clubland is critical for this format and is one of two key challenges it faces. If Waugh’s belief in local connection is true, Super Rugby sides would have to focus on trying to pick locally to engage the rugby community. 

For clubs like the Force and Rebels, this would likely cause a lot of challenges given the competitiveness of their club competitions, but over time, the goal would be that the game time and sharing of knowledge would lead to a stronger Dewar Shield and Fortescue Premier Grade. Whether such a competition can be translated into clubland really determines its success or failure.

It is hard to make a judgment call on this competition and its effectiveness, as its original creation was just to give rugby players game time and fans something during a difficult time in recent world history. Frankly, we were hungry for any sport during the pandemic! 

VARIOUS CITIES, AUSTRALIA – MAY 13: Rugby Australia Board Director and Classic Wallaby Phil Waugh speaks to the media during a Rugby Australia media opportunity in support of the Rugby World Cup 2027 & 2029 bid, at Queensbridge Square on May 13, 2022 in Melbourne, Australia. (Photo by Daniel Pockett/Getty Images for Rugby Australia)

The second key challenge is the funding of such a competition. These established brands would likely need a lot of resources for such a competition to work, which would mean the previous options of an NRC model packaged for the broadcaster or a club partnership model with those who can pay going in wouldn’t work. Would RA be able to fund this additional competition, especially during a time of year where the Wallabies are the key draw for rugby fans?

For all of Waugh’s examinations, he is correct that the success of players in clubland was the start of our Super Rugby fanbases. Maybe giving the chance for our five franchises to connect more directly with clubland could serve as the best option?

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There will be many disagreements about our third tier, as there always is. However, if we are to introduce yet another competition, it’s important that we know what it is for. Fan engagement? Player development? That is what is most critical in the Australian third tier debate, and one that I hope Phil Waugh is aware of. 

Australian rugby is on the move, but knowing what we’re moving towards for the game in general is almost as hard as the challenge of getting there.


The Crowd Says:

2023-08-13T10:45:13+00:00

Phil

Roar Rookie


Sorry been a while but if you have a look at the talent on display currently in the finals series there is plenty of talent. Look at the backline Eastwood have been fielding. It’s excellent talent.

2023-08-13T10:43:17+00:00

Phil

Roar Rookie


Been a while but a few things: How do you know what the viewership numbers are? I’ve been to Battle of the Beaches games that were at least 10,000. My idea was that each State Union along with RA and the premier clubs would pay for their teams. Which is different to RA funding the NRC. And the clubs wouldn’t have the expense of having to field all the teams they currently are required to. Having watched a couple of the finals series this weekend and seen the talent, I think there is definitely enough talent. Eastwood have had a backline with Edmed, Lachie Anderson, Harry Wilson, Pincus, Albert. That’s a really talented backline. They currently have 4 grade teams and 3 Colts teams so plenty to choose from, plus adding in import players. What doesn’t help is players being taken from these clubs eg the Force asked their players to come to Perth for pre season right in the middle of finals. If that’s not an indication of what’s wrong with Australian rugby I don’t know what is. Time to give back to the clubs that develop these players since juniors.

2023-08-13T03:48:56+00:00

Phil

Roar Rookie


Hi Nick I saw an email on Friday from a premier club that all their Force players were summoned back to Perth for a pre season training, with 3 weeks to go in the Shute Shield and while they’re club trying to make finals. Without even contacting the club. These are the players the clubs have developed since juniors. That is a great example to me of what’s wrong with Aus rugby. Complete disregard shown to premier clubs by SR clubs. And also another reason why I think it’s time to stop taking from club rugby and start giving back to it.

2023-08-01T07:57:14+00:00

Frank from Geebung

Roar Rookie


Well, that side in any national comp, wearing the traditional red and black on the beautiful North Sydney oval would be something that I’d travel to Sydney for.

2023-07-31T09:07:10+00:00

gatesy

Roar Guru


Yes, Norths.

2023-07-31T03:41:08+00:00

robynn

Roar Rookie


Well now we know the answer .. and Phil’s got one of his his first big calls right on the money; “”The NRC is not on my agenda,” Waugh said. “My strong belief is we’ve got real tribalism across our clubs, being the John I Dent Cup, the Shute Shield, the Hospital Cup and in Melbourne and Perth as well. We have strong identity of clubs, strong tribalism within clubs and my view is we have a great opportunity to leverage that tribalism within clubs in a more integrated fashion interstate.” “We should lean in and invest in our club competitions. If there’s an opportunity to do a European Cup-style end-of-season competition involving the top performers within the club competitions, that’s a good opportunity to grow the clubs.” “You need to connect with the community and clubs to drive a higher level of competition within the clubs by providing better players into them. That’s how I view it. We’ve succeeded over many years in Australian rugby through that system and there’s a lot of value in putting resources and the best players back into it.” https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8288231/rugby-australia-boss-outlines-plan-for-radical-new-club-competition/?cs=14240

2023-07-31T00:47:08+00:00

Frank from Geebung

Roar Rookie


Didn’t suggest your team not be included, and not suggesting the demise of any particular clubs, just reward for those who are financially sound with a good future. Not being from Sydney, I’m guessing the ‘shore men’ are linked to the well represented Shute Shield northern or eastern suburbs of Sydney, and/or some gps school…. Strewth…. It’d be enough to scuff your well oiled RMs….

2023-07-30T22:48:07+00:00

gatesy

Roar Guru


As a Shoreman, I would find it very hard to get behind, say, Uni, or Randwick, or Gordon. That is not the answer.

2023-07-29T23:01:23+00:00

LBJ

Roar Rookie


No mate, spending other peoples money is the Centralisation strategy. Some faceless power hungry but unaccountable executive in Canberra with a spreadsheet. I want to invest the money we generate on building our base - but in Australia we don't invest in clubs at all - and that's our biggest problem! Why is it such a problem you ask? Because that is where our culture and our talent pool comes from - almost all of it! So as the loud minority of roarers sit there and drive down all the clubs in Sydney and Brisbane, you also drive down our development pathways because every junior club is directly connected to a Shute or hospital club - and that is not what friends of Aussie rugby do.

2023-07-29T09:19:04+00:00

ScottD

Roar Guru


What would it take? A bucket load of money that doesn't exist and a much bigger and better player base that is worthy of being professional (which doesn't exist either).

2023-07-29T09:08:27+00:00

ScottD

Roar Guru


Yes, you are correct except for two things. 1. The Sydney brigade have never supported NRC and that is the reality so at some point we need to accept it and work out a path forward; and 2. Because the 3rd tier competition is played in the post SRP test window, and because the majority of test players come from NSW, Brumbies and QLD, this means that there will be significant opportunities for next tier players in these regions. Not quite as many as if there were two teams in NSW and Qld but probably enough. Doing it this way means that there is still a marketable product. Any more dilution tips it over the edge so it doesn’t break even.

2023-07-28T22:27:46+00:00

Frank from Geebung

Roar Rookie


NRC really wasn’t given a chance when played at the end of the season and pitted against the AFL and nrl finals.

2023-07-28T22:23:54+00:00

Frank from Geebung

Roar Rookie


A great discussion item. For what it’s worth…. Follow the Australian sports landscape’s of success and have a main city base….. promote the Shute Shield to a National Competition with reduced Sydney teams by four through mergers or based on ability to maintain a spot, then have a team each from Brisbane, Canberra, Melbourne and Perth. The latter to be supported by players from Dewar, Fortescue, Hospitals cup etc to keep the local comps going…. Played on iconic grounds like Coogee, North Sydney oval, Ballymore etc…

2023-07-28T12:27:45+00:00

Crazy Horse

Roar Pro


NSW is no longer the centre of the Rugbyverse.

2023-07-28T00:42:30+00:00

Frankly

Roar Rookie


A lot would have to change for it to work, and for the most part, RA doesn't have the power to make the change. It is very hard to play the NRC, SRP, July Internationals, The Rugby Championship, and Autumn Tour in succession. The large problem is the July Internationals. They interrupt the flow. Ideally the NRC and the SPR should be completed before the July tests. That doesn’t provide a lot of time. If the July Test were moved to October, then it would flow better and have a natural progression. I believe the NRC should be run at the beginning on the year. It could start mid-February and be played over 16 weeks. The NRC would have 10 teams, 14 regular season games, top 4 semifinals, and a final. Each NRC will have a reserve team, and perhaps a Colts team. SRP follows on after the NRC. I believe the NRC should be RA priority over the SRP. Therefore, I feel the SRP should be reduced to a tournament played over 6 weeks. 2 pools of 5 teams. 4 round robin games, top 4 semifinals, and final. RA should only enter 3 teams max. This tournament is to condense the Australian talent into 3 teams and test them against the NZ teams. It will make a great audition for the Wallabies. The players that do not make a SRP team will go make to club rugby. It would be nice for Japan, South Africa, and Argentina to have teams in this. That is a whole other topic. The July test will have to move as they get in the way. I suggest October is a better time. Like I said RA have very little power to influence such a change. After the SRP tournament a revamped Rugby Championship will be played. It will be just like the six nations. It will include Japan and Fiji. While this is played, Australia A will also be playing. I'm not sure who, other than Tonga and Samoa. Perhaps some other 2nd tier nation. The Rugby Championship will be followed by games at home to 3 NH teams, before the November away tests against another 3 nations in the NH. The timeline could look like this NRC 18th Feb – 3rd Jun Super Rugby Pacific 24th Jun - 29th Jul Rugby Championship (SH 6 Nations) 19thAug - 23rd Sep Spring SH Tests 7th- 21st Oct Autumn NH Tests 4th - 18th Nov

2023-07-27T22:57:04+00:00

gatesy

Roar Guru


If the original ARC had been allowed to continue it would now be in its second decade and would probably be flourishing. No doubt, numerous tweaks would have been made, funding found, product improved, but we good old Aussie Rugby people keep shooting down good ideas because they don't get instant results. Build it and they will come ... just add..sometime down the track. I enjoyed going to the games at Manuka Oval. The crowds were decent and it had a good match day feel about it, which was a far cry from the two men and a dog feeling at many of the John I Dent Cup matches. You don't get an identity over night. Nick posed the question .. what is more important - player development or fan engagement. To me, player development has to be the aim. Strengthen the base and the rest follows. Fan engagement comes with time and familiarity, and it takes time to build the " tribe", but player development is virtually instant if you have the right coaches, systems and support in place. The idea of a Super Rugby AU is a good one, provided you can bring more development players into the squad, but I would say that it only makes sense if you are only drawing from you own catchment area and not importing players, but overall, I still think that we need to find a way to bring back the ARC/ NRC as the genuine second tier, whcih, in turn should strengthen the Super tier.

2023-07-27T11:40:39+00:00

PaddyBoy

Roar Rookie


Hey Nick, awesome work on these articles and the club rugby updates too. Legend. Would love to see more articles on either of those possibilities you mentioned!

2023-07-27T10:39:43+00:00

LuckyPhil

Roar Rookie


Will do a more in depth article on the next few weeks when I have the time.

AUTHOR

2023-07-27T07:45:10+00:00

Nick Wasiliev

Editor


G'day folks, cheers for all your comments, it's great to chat with fellow likeminded fans who are passionate about fixing Australia's pathways. Glad to see you've enjoyed these articles. I'm noticing there is talk about a Super Rugby Reserve Grade competition or a hybrid selection of the three options I've presented. If you'd like me to continue this series and examine these two ideas, let me know. I did consider incorporating a hybrid scenario into this article (as long enough as it already was), but I am curious to hear what a reserve grade competition looks like to you all, and how it would run. Also, for reference, Option III of Super Rugby AU would run after Super Rugby Pacific in the August/October window.

AUTHOR

2023-07-27T07:06:27+00:00

Nick Wasiliev

Editor


Mate, don't even get me started! I'm literally making a career out of it. I take a huge amount of positives from the fact that there are many fellow likeminded fans who also want change and for something to be in place. There are a lot of passionate fans and great rugby brains in this country. If there is the will, I don't think we can just get there, I KNOW we can.

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