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of course you’d say something silly like that. Ive never “whinged” about anything like that – happy to leave the whinging to all you anything but Sydney lot
Since we have had all these wonderful new areas supplying all these fantastic players – the pro era Wallabies have never been worse but hey lets double down and throw more money down the drain
The answer is obvious – stop wasting money on expansion for expansions sake, concentrate on and strengthen the heartlands and tell half the “pro” players in the country- sorry boys you just aren’t up to it (and you never were); the music’s just stopped
The Wrap: Unity, integrity and the other casualties of shameful leaks aimed at the Rebels
ha ha ha now I know you pulling both of them
Melbourne’s just gone bust for the 2nd time (or is it the third, hard to keep up sometimes)
WA will only ever exist because of Andrew Forest’s parochialism
The Brumbies (aka southern NSW), Dog love em, are a complete financial
basket case
but no Sydney is the problem!
The Wrap: Unity, integrity and the other casualties of shameful leaks aimed at the Rebels
“To have your head in your ass means to ignore problems around you, usually by not seeing or not wanting to see them.
To get your head out of your ass means to start noticing those problems and stop ignoring them”
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/79813/meaning-of-get-your-head-out-of-your-ass
The Wrap: Unity, integrity and the other casualties of shameful leaks aimed at the Rebels
Of course it should (“revolve around Sydney”)
It (and Brisbane) are where the players, the supporters, the commercial strength of the game is
This nonsensical continued weakening of the game to foster some misguided notion of “growth”, expansion or even the killer one “fairness” are destroying the game. The Rebels are just the latest proof. Since “expansion”, our results have nosedived and our finances are shot
The “National” Rugby League isn’t as stupid as us.. they killed their expansion away from their heartlands decades ago but no, not us we keep on with our disastrous “national footprint”
and by the way – the NRL heartlands are pretty much our heartlands too… had a look at their finances lately?
The Wrap: Unity, integrity and the other casualties of shameful leaks aimed at the Rebels
Thats because you agree with what he wants
everybody else sees it as the semi incoherent, rent seeking, special pleading that it is..
The Wrap: Unity, integrity and the other casualties of shameful leaks aimed at the Rebels
..don’t you just love it when someone just says out loud what is obvious to everyone
G. Parkes and the other tinfoil hatters need to get out more
The Wrap: Unity, integrity and the other casualties of shameful leaks aimed at the Rebels
I would not be surprised if this was a RA inspired leak
Look at the author of this article and there’s your answer….
End game? States plotting to roll RA board after Wallabies flop
Since you asked…
1 you spend the best part of the past decade boosting the failed ARC/NRC and
2 not missing any opportunity to criticise the Clubs and
3 you churn out anodyne stuff that lacks any heart or passion (because of point 2 above)
And you’re surprised no-one bothers to click on anything you put out on a subject you have no credibility with!
'It has been impossible': When it comes to his 'secondary' job Eddie Everywhere has been more like the invisible man
“What you are saying is that Shute Shield clubs are capable of being more. They’ve just failed to be that more for 100 years but maybe suddenly they can be…”
as they say..Those who don’t know history (and you are first in that queue)
They were definitely more for about 80 of those 100 years. It was only with the advent of professional rugby in Australia that the clubs suddenly were downgraded.
Prior to that they were the bedrock of Australian rugby.. and it’s no coincidence that our most successful international periods were based on a strong club system. Compare that to the disaster that we’ve seen in the past 20 odd years
When I first arrived in Aussie from NZ the clubs in Sydney just about all had licensed Clubs – with the dreaded pokies. They were busy, well patronised, and financially strong. Players came from all over the country – and even internationally – to play in the Shute Shield because it was just so strong
Destruction of this foundation is one of the great tragedies of Australian rugby
RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers
or “we can form a national competition around made up artificial “franchises” that dont even exist!
exactly the same (silly) point..
RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers
a club team representing a suburb is nothing close to that.
You’d better hurry up and let Penrith Rugby League Club or maybe Parramatta Rugby League Club know they’ve got no chance of making it in the NRL
RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers
“oh i’m not following this made up Randwick team”
lets take it one step at at time
The blokes in 1881 DIDN’T HAVE AN EXISTING TEAM .. otherwise you know what? they would have joined it…
so they started one ( HINT: your killer point is a bit of a dud)
RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers
ha ha of course not – no-one ever expected anything different from the home of the “Anyone but the Club’s” brigade
This bloke’s nailed it:
“the roar has invested so much vitriol towards anything that happens in SS “
@LBJ
RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers
Yes it is (see what I just did there?)
RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers
as they say – none so blind
plenty of articles – even here on the Roar – telling you exactly that. Do you need a hand finding some?
RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers
“Can you back this up?
Definitely
The comment was in reply to the assertion that “The [Sydney] clubs did get behind the NRC teams, they just found out quite quickly it was a lot harder than they expected..
ie it was a comment about Sydney crowds – nothing to do with Brisbane
The crowds in Sydney were poor to start out with and just about non existent by the end.
Complain all you like but Sydney is the biggest market and has the largest number of players. If it doesn’t fly in Sydney, it doesn’t fly.
Happy to also comment on the other states experience if you like;
Once it become obvious that supporters just weren’t going to games the response was to stop charging entrance fees and in many cases move games to suburban parks without any real facilities. That’s when we started to see the claims of crowds in the thousands.
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* If you charge nothing you are telling people exactly how much you think its worth
*Without any turnstiles, tickets etc – crowd numbers quoted are the work of fevered imaginations ( many – like the original poster – with an all too obvious axe to grind)
The variance in crowd numbers between what was ‘Officially” reported and the obvious reality just looking at photos and videos of games became the stuff of folklore.
Each week, the crowds got worse but the official attendance climbed higher. Rumour was that Bill was burning the midnight oil applying the officially sanctioned “ARU Crowd Multiplier Factor”
RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers
Roars solution , ‘Twas , Geoff and Brett. Make it as expensive as ever by setting up whole new clubs, from all over Australia that no grassroots have any affection or interest in , all because they can’t fathom the majority of players and supporters are from Sydney and Brisbane and their country areas.
the detest for local clubs in the Roar blinds them to setting up a whole new alien and expensive structure no one can afford
exactly
RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers
Great answer
RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers
What they actually found was that;
1 the players weren’t interested
2 the supporters weren’t interested
3 the sponsors weren’t interested
4 the Super rugby teams weren’t interested (no matter what BS they sprout now)
All of that is public knowledge and pretty much why the NRC will never, ever fly again.
RA's target of a third tier in 2024 raises a whole heap of questions in desperate need of answers
Let’s think this through..
An existing club with history, tradition, supporters, decades of community involvement etc can’t ever grow (just because)
But a “club” that doesn’t currently exist has no history, tradition or supporters will boom…(again, just because)
Yeah…whatever
Why RA CEO is leaning into 'beating heart' of club rugby in third tier plan as crunch talks loom
It doesn’t mean they are good either.. it just means they have no money of their own so any decision they make will be controlled by the source of their income ie Head Office
But that is missing the point of what I said which was “the States – who largely have been consistently unsuccessful in running pro teams” and that is unarguable
State based non professional organisations running pro teams is a model that isn’t followed anywhere much except Rugby in Australia
Why RA CEO is leaning into 'beating heart' of club rugby in third tier plan as crunch talks loom
Would that be the “Redcliffe Dolphins – formed 1947 – fully professional spin-off team, The Dolphins”?
Why RA CEO is leaning into 'beating heart' of club rugby in third tier plan as crunch talks loom
Every sport, in every country starts with a local comp. Some clubs are aspirational and want to rise, some don’t. Thats life
In Australia, that exactly what happened with the AFL, with the NRL and is now happening with soccer who are specifically advertising to start a 2nd tier comp made up only of existing clubs.
Tigers and Dragons… ha ha .. better try that again
“We can’t have some Shute teams promoted ” and why not if that’s what they want? I reckon we could all name Clubs who want to be and could be “better”
In Sydney Subbies that’s exactly what happens and has done for decades.. and you know what? life goes on
Why RA CEO is leaning into 'beating heart' of club rugby in third tier plan as crunch talks loom
So we’ve got Clubs, long established, loved in their communities, structures all in place, well known brands, decades, in some cases over a century, of history and tradition
lets ignore all of that and instead lets go “founding new clubs to be our second tier”
ha Monty Python isnt dead
Why RA CEO is leaning into 'beating heart' of club rugby in third tier plan as crunch talks loom
That’s the trouble with having no idea what you’re talking about..and just making stuff up
2. Objects
2.1 Objects of the Company
The objects of the Company are:
(b) to foster, promote and arrange Rugby throughout Australia;
Rebels face more hurdles despite $25m rescue plan, call on RA to show support and reveal hand as court battle looms