'I don't understand': England great stumped by Warner 'friction', Lyon's huge 'top two all-time openers' call

By The Roar / Editor

Former England captain Michael Vaughan has expressed his surprise at the “friction” between David Warner and some ex-players and fans, and describes the Aussie batsman opener as “one of the greats.”

“I don’t understand why people aren’t talking about him being a great player,” Vaughan told Fox Cricket, where he works as a commentator.

“The fact he has made mistakes in the past, I guess, there’s friction there with him and a few ex-players (and) I guess there’s friction there with him and a few Aussie supporters.

“(But) if you actually put all that to one side and look at his numbers, he’s only had one blip and that’s his batting in England against Stuart Broad around the wicket.

“Other than that, he’s pretty much dominated wherever he’s played, and he’s played T20 cricket, 50-over cricket and Test match cricket. His record here in Australia is fantastic.

“You talk about the greats of the game and I go back to the late 90s and early 2000s, that great Australian side, (and) not many of them have 25 Test match centuries.

David Warner. (Photo by Darrian Traynor/Getty Images)

“Yet here we are, with a player like David Warner, who is three Test matches away from saying goodbye, and all the talk is ‘Should he get that opportunity to play in Sydney?’”

“I’m sure in the next couple of Test matches, particularly in Perth where he likes the bouncy deck, off the back of a bit of controversy, (he will perform well),” he said.

“I heard his comment the other day that the summer of cricket wouldn’t be the same without a headline or two. I’d be amazed if he doesn’t get a few runs in the next week or so.”

Warner’s decision to declare he wanted to end his Test career after the Sydney match against Pakistan has rankled many – although the opener has always been clear that it was up to the selectors if he should make it that far.

He has been whacked in quick succession by Mitchell Johnson and former opening partner Ed Cowan – who delivered a withering sledge this week when he referred to Warner as a “walking wicket”.

But current teammates have been full of praise for Warner’s impact on the successful team.

“You look at his career (and) it’s been incredible. I think he’s closing in on the all-time … most runs as an opener, I think,” Steve Smith said.

“So that’s pretty incredible given some of the batters that have gone before him as openers as well. He’s been a tremendous player, you know, for over a decade.”

Nathan Lyon added: “I look at David and David’s career and I honestly believe that when he is retired, the Australian public are going to realise the important (role) that David has played in this Australian Test team for the last 13 years.

“His role of going out there and scoring hard runs, doing the hardest job arguably, even in the last Ashes, I know he didn’t get the big 100 and stuff, but he played some very important knocks that not many people were talking about. So I look at David and I do think he is in the top two greatest openers of all time for Australia.

“I’ve been very fortunate to play over 100 Test matches with Davey and I honestly believe that he’s probably the most generous bloke I’ve ever met, especially off the field, but he’s probably also the biggest competitor I’ve ever played with.”

Skipper Pat Cummins pointed to Warner’s positivity in the sheds.

“I’ve got a million memories and there are plenty of off-field memories that make me smile,” Cummins said.

“Just around the changeroom he is always full of energy and up for fun. He can be anything. He can be a menace. (But) when the boys are getting a bit flat, he can be the one to buzz around.

“I think one of my favourite memories of Dave is (from a match) that I was not playing in, which was his 100 against India at the WACA Ground where he just tore them apart.

“That was ten years ago and that just did not really happen in Test cricket. He was one of the first guys to think, ‘Okay. It is a new ball. A fast bowler. But who cares? I am going to hit him back over his head’.”

Mitchell Starc was also gushing.

“I debuted in Test cricket with Davey, so I’ve seen David for a long time across all formats,” Starc said.

“I think if you look at his numbers across the board in all formats, he’s certainly one of the greatest we’ve had, certainly at the top of the order.”

The Crowd Says:

2023-12-14T01:39:19+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


I think you'll find Drew has died many years ago. Jim Maxwell sounds like he died many years ago. Stuart Clark, like Jim Maxwell, knows nothing about cricket outside of NSW (really poor). Love the skull but Ed Cowan is a bit...meh! Tries too hard to intellectualize and misses the cricket as a result.

2023-12-13T23:49:28+00:00

Lawrence

Roar Rookie


What’s not to understand, 0 centuries in England or India, averages 32 away from home and helped rip the team apart with Sandpapergate.

2023-12-13T23:45:41+00:00

Little Billy Bagwell

Roar Rookie


Thanks Don. Noted. I much prefer the likes of Jim Maxwell, Stuart Clark, the Skull, Drew Morphett and Ed Cowan as my commentary team. I'll leave the "cardoons" for another day. Also, your boy Mitch Marsh to tonne up in Perth. You heard it here first.

2023-12-13T23:16:57+00:00

BigGordon

Roar Rookie


I wonder if those who are critical of Vaughan in his comments actually bothered to read them? He totally justifies his comments about Warner being considered one the greats of the game across all formats, but especially in Tests in Australia. He also clearly acknowledges his two failings, one with the bat in England and the other in South Africa, but points out he's in rare company with 25 Test hundreds. Why not leave the Warner bashing alone and get behind him? Warner's been chosen for his country in a Test that starts in about 3 hours and I for one am hoping we see at least one more piece of vintage Warner hitting before he retires.

2023-12-13T23:09:07+00:00

BigGordon

Roar Rookie


Those who are still railing on about Warner's selection likely fit into the category you described above. The time for questioning his selection in this series is well and truly past, so any carryon about it now, is either Tall Poppy as you suggest or simply mean-spirited malice. I agree Warner has been a great player for ages and deserves to be recognized for the many outstanding innings he's played. That said, IMO he should have been dropped from the team well before the last Ashes, but now he's been chosen, I hope he goes out and bats in typical Warner fashion. Even the most hardened Warner critics would enjoy watching if he really got going. If they didn't, they're clearly people who deserve to be ignored.

2023-12-13T22:26:38+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Just listen to music then. If you want clear thoughts about cricket, Davy has delivered so far.

2023-12-13T22:14:09+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


He has a good handle on issues facing the game.

2023-12-13T21:39:32+00:00

Little Billy Bagwell

Roar Rookie


Nah, I've I wanted to listen to incessant droning I'd just befriend an air conditioner.

2023-12-13T21:38:32+00:00

Little Billy Bagwell

Roar Rookie


Haha so true Rowdy. Vaughan is a one-eyed English supporter (and rightly so) and goes around trying to stir up trouble with other cricketing teams (Ive seen him do it to NZ and SAF too). One of the biggest W-anchors around in that regard. However in other interviews he comes across as a half decent bloke.

2023-12-13T20:57:44+00:00

ColinT

Roar Rookie


Certainly Don, there are some fair minded commentators who stick to the cricket, but there are also a lot who don’t. Impugning his character, belittling him and some even sinking to criticising his wife.

2023-12-13T13:30:42+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


He has been good so far...with his various cameos. Prepare to be (pleasantly) surprised.

2023-12-13T13:27:39+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


I doubt righteousness or morals come into any comments about Davy. They are cricket comments. I can't imagine Michael will find much help from that red herring, Colin.

2023-12-13T13:24:46+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


As part of that cricket bubble that travels in the entourage with the ' unchageables', Michael, it's not surprising that you don't understand.

2023-12-13T09:04:03+00:00

Blink

Roar Rookie


Warner is an all-time great as all cricketers know. The pseudo-stats experts we get on social commentary are absolutely ignorant on all things cricket. All quicks around the World apart from Broad in England will be happy when Warner is gone. He is a potential nightmare for every quick.

2023-12-13T08:22:57+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


I caught that about Vaughn and his 'concerns'

2023-12-13T07:54:18+00:00

Sportstragic

Roar Rookie


“Great champion” a little bit of hyperbole perhaps? He has been a great player at home. He has been an ordinary player away from home 51 test matches for an average of 31. Don Bradman is a great champion. David Warner is not

2023-12-13T07:17:14+00:00

ColinT

Roar Rookie


Wherever the selectors decide his last test match will be.

2023-12-13T06:28:11+00:00

Doctor Rotcod

Roar Rookie


And some others are uncritical,incurious and don't want the best for the Australian Test side. As if any current member is going to bag him. And you ColinT, may yet have sealed his fate with your unthinking statement . "David in his last test match." You'll be in Perth then?

2023-12-13T06:25:04+00:00

U

Roar Rookie


He has been great only in home matches and not for years

2023-12-13T06:19:26+00:00

Richie

Roar Rookie


Gday David.

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