If the NRL want to win over America, what happens in Vegas has to stay there all year around

By Mike Meehall Wood / Editor

There’s a funny thing about growing up loving rugby league: you learn what the word ‘inaugural’ means a lot earlier than other kids.

Our sport exists because of a fearless desire to try new things, to challenge the status quo and constantly innovate.

It’s why we ditched two players, why we limited the tackles, moved the defensive line, took away lineouts and made a hundred other alterations to the sport over the 128 years that it has existed.

Since 1895 – and, in case you watched the Fox League promo, that’s when rugby league was invented, not when Australia first got involved – we have defined ourselves as a sport that tried to move with the times.

If you wanted a conservative form of rugby, that was always there, but if you wanted the progressive form, it was there too. That was our raison d’etre.

Of course, not every innovation sticks, which is why the history of rugby league is filled with false starts.

As most readers will now know, this is far from the first dalliance with the USA in our history.

Back in 1939, the Californian rugby union authorities wrote to their British league counterparts with a desire to swap codes, only for World War II to get in the way.

In the 1950s, a team of American Footballers toured Australia with some early success – they filled out the SCG, such was the intrigue – but failed to turn that into anything meaningful when they returned home.

There were exhibition games in the 1970s, amateur leagues in the 1980s, the Origin game in Long Beach in 1987 and a host of one-offs, hairbrained schemes, failed ventures and competing competitions ever since. Nothing has ever stuck.

This problem is hardly limited to rugby league, of course.

It took soccer to bring an entire FIFA World Cup to America to overcome the bonfire of greenbacks that had previously failed to generate interest, and even then, the embers smouldered for another decade or so before Major League Soccer claimed mainstream popularity.

Ditto cricket, which has long sought to make something from the millions of migrants from the Caribbean and Indian subcontinent and will try again with a T20 World Cup later this year. They too, have thrown good money after bad to draw in the almighty dollar.

League’s issues in expanding anywhere, not just to America, since 1895 have largely foundered on two issues: lack of cash and lack of nous. One is likely linked to the other.

Now, however, there is a chance to change that.

As has been shouted from every treetop this week, the NRL is absolutely flush with cash after banking a record $58m profit on top of a $701.1m revenue in the last year.

Instantly the chatter came about buying Super League in the UK, which is highly fanciful if they mean buying it outright, though investment in a share of it, much as strategic partners IMG did, might have the germ of a decent idea.

Then you had the spruiking of NRL America, a projected pro league in the States, with Brisbane businessman Steve Scanlan touting for investment to make it happen.

There’s a joke in there about how many people have gone to Las Vegas with a lot of money and left it all there, but instead, let’s focus on the best possible outcomes could be. Nobody sits down at the tables thinking they’re going to roll snake eyes.

On our inaugural – there’s that word again – Roar League Podcast, we dialled up the godfather of league in the US, former St George Dragon turned US international player, coach and administrator David Niu, who knows more about the sport in the States than just about anyone else, and asked what success would be like for the first foray into Vegas.

(Photo by David Becker/Getty Images for NRL)

“That they come back,” was his simple answer.

“That’s success. If they invest in coming back for year two, and play whatever combination of teams and the combine and the football festival, all that’s talked about for the next 12 months – that’s success.”

It’s that stick-with-it-ness that the NRL has to understand. This is their baby and, if they want to grow it, it can’t be about what happens back in Australia.

It’s smart to realise that, in the areas that play league in this country, there will be an inevitable market saturation that limits how many subscribers a streaming service can have and how many gamblers can lose their hard earned on a weekly basis.

Given that the only question harder to answer than ‘Can we crack America?” is “How do we get Sydney people to actually show up?”, they know that their revenue streams will eventually reach capacity.

It’s why they’re talking up expansion, so they can sell more content to Fox and Nine with extra timeslots while also branching to new markets, albeit within the limited confines of the Pacific.

Perth and New Zealand have new time zones and rich people to market to. Papua New Guinea has neither, but it does have a theoretically massive player pool, and Anthony Albanese is footing the bill anyway.

The trick with America, and we have to hope that the NRL realise this, will be returning time and again until the stadium is filled with Americans, rather than Australians.

Much as the talk has been of garnering 1% of the gambling market, or selling Watch NRL subscriptions to expats, the only way that Vegas won’t be a loss-leading jolly for Aussies is if the stadium is increasingly filled with locals.

Between 1989 and 2007, the NFL tried this in Europe, conducting their own money inferno before losses of $30m per year forced them to wind up.

London Monarchs, the English franchise, started at Wembley Stadium in front of 25,000 people, went to White Hart Lane, Spurs’ football ground, with half that, and ended up at an athletics stadium in Crystal Palace with just 5,000 fans.

: Patrick Mahomes #15 of the Kansas City Chiefs looks to pass in the fourth quarter against Nick Bosa #97 of the San Francisco 49ers during Super Bowl LVIII at Allegiant Stadium on February 11, 2024 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

Yet, due to a slower pace, a focus on timeslots that worked and a growth of the elite NFL product through repeated, consistent efforts, the London Series of NFL fixtures has built their product up into an event that fans love to go to.

The sport itself remains highly niche, but the NFL in London concept works, the stadiums are filled four times a year with largely British fans and it has undoubtedly helped the profile of American football in the UK.

That surely must be the goal for the NRL.

If they focus continually on Vegas, go back time and again, they can make it a tentpole of their calendar, a trip for Aussies and, crucially, a gathering of the clans for North American rugby league.

If it is 75% Aussie and 25% American this year, the goal should be that in five to ten years’ time, those numbers are the other way around.

Creating that American supporter base doesn’t come from a one-weekend rodeo, rather a lasting commitment to providing content and slowly building, which is done for the other 11 months of the year through support for combines, domestic products and the international game.

Nobody is expecting the NRL to fund this entirely, but it is in their interest to make sure that rugby league remains important after the show has packed up and left town.

Their athlete’s combine, which sees 50 players (25 male, 25 female) trial in front of NRL and NRLW scouts, might not see anyone win a contract in first grade, but it can upskill those who attend to go back home and play rugby league every week.

As Niu explained on our podcast, it likely won’t get anyone over to Australia, but it will drastically increase the player pool for domestic footy and create an ecosystem that means that the next will be bigger and the one after that bigger still.

For male athletes, it can create the opportunity to play at the international level and build a career, either in any NRL America comp that arises or as a development player/coach.

For the huge Polynesian-American communities, largely centred around Vegas and neighbouring states, rugby league is not at all new and can be seeded year-round.

For women, there’s a strong argument that the NRLW is the best competition in any form of rugby – or indeed American football, which has no women’s game – and is certainly the best paid.

(Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

We have seen rugby union players cross over seamlessly and become among the best in NRLW, as well as former Matildas and AFLW stars, with the growing number of pro places a clear drawcard.

Ferris Sandboe, a Canadian international in league, has already blazed a trail for North American players by winning a contract at the Dragons.

America has a huge core base of female rugby-focussed athletes, built through the Sevens Olympic squad and the Title IX funding that ensure parity at college level for women’s sport, but nowhere for those players to graduate to professionally. This should be of the highest priority for the NRL.

The NRL is using this first weekend as a loss leader, but it needs to holds its nerve on numbers and accept that it will be a long process. Part of that, of course, is what they choose to do with their cash in between visits from elite NRL clubs.

The rugby league market might be small, but the eventgoer market remains huge, and Las Vegas is the perfect place to serve that for one weekend a year.

The trick will be turning making that rugby league fanbase – an actual American one – bigger, which comes through bottom-up development work rather than top-down events.

Rugby league fans love the idea that ‘if you build it, they will come’. We call our game the greatest of all unironically, because we think it is, and sometimes act like all people have to do is see it once and be converted.

But if those converts don’t have their own field to play on, they won’t stick around. That’s always been the trick that nobody has been able to pull off – but the NRL has the best chance yet of doing so.

The Crowd Says:

2024-03-04T10:28:49+00:00

Rob9

Roar Guru


The point that you are unable to grasp is that I’m not defending the strategy!! How many times do I have to say words to that effect? How about you go up and actually read the original comment that you’ve replied to. It very clearly identifies one positive side-effect this year and a long list of challenges (‘reality checks’) that the NRL faces in achieving the traction it desires in the States. I’ve framed this increased east coast coverage as a by-product eg. Not the primary strategic objective. Given (again) that I don’t believe the strategy will achieve what it actually targets, do I believe this by-product makes it worthwhile? No! Never said that. What’s irrelevant in the context of this discussion and the intent of the original comment is whether it’s maintained for the next 4 years or not. It was a single positive observation- nothing more. Your suggestion that it will ‘fail to back up’ is nothing more than an assumption (clouded by a clear distaste for a sport that you know little about) but again- it doesn’t even matter.

2024-03-04T08:48:11+00:00

Caniva

Roar Rookie


Something can be "discernable" but not "material". I can't believe I even needed to type that tbh I am not making any claims of "success" of the Giants or the Suns. It is actually the opposite of the point I am making. What they represent is actual "committed investment" to shifting sporting cultural balance. A double header a year for 5 years where nobody even knows rugby league is a distinct game is not remotely that. This is the point you are unable to grasp. THe fact that the "NRL's Vegas Adventure" dominated east coast "coverage" and even (at least in your perception) "Attention" in one year is irrelevant and, worse, detrimental when it fails to back up. Anyway, we will see where we are at in the short term when the crowd figures and TV ratings come in later this week.

2024-03-04T06:26:25+00:00

Rob9

Roar Guru


Generally I don’t think you possess the ability to see much beyond the end of your own nose, so your rich and compelling assessments are filed under ‘pot/kettle exchanges’. Your original quote: ‘The only discernible additional “cost” to what the AFL are doing is annoying a few people in Victoria by doing something different’ So, what you originally framed as having a ‘discernible additional cost’, now has no ‘material detrimental effect’. For a fan of a sport with an additional two goal posts at each end- you’re pretty good at moving them! You’re also a bit of a world champ at putting words in people’s mouths too: ‘To suggest the NRL has an equivalent strategy with the US is laughable’ Where did I suggest it was ‘an equivalent strategy’? I don’t think the Suns/Giants play had much to do with cracking a new gambling market. While one strategy has only just been employed (as unlikely as it may appear, it’s still too early to judge) and one has been pumped for 15 years, the similarity is that neither has realised an ROI. What’s laughable is if this is all about pretending the AFL’s entries into the Gold Coast and Western Sydney could be considered anything close to a success. I’ve also very clearly said the NRL’s Vegas experiment has drawn in all the ‘coverage’ and ‘attention’. There’s a constant PR battle between the two major football codes and I made the observation that the NRL has clearly won it on the east coast for the last couple of weeks thanks to the Vegas expedition. That’s all I’ve suggested in this boring and repetitive chain with you (nothing about ticket sales) and anything else you’ve read into all on your own. There were more people in Allegiant Stadium on the weekend than there will be in most if not all AFL stadiums this weekend, but I don’t believe the NRL was headlining the local Vegas bulletin last night.

2024-03-04T04:27:40+00:00

Caniva

Roar Rookie


Yeah I think generally you have a particularly myopic world view which explains why you are completely missing every point I have made. The AFL's Opening round has not had a material "detrimental effect" in Victoria beyond the usual whingers whinging. Both Brisbane Lions and Swans games are pretty close to sold out. The GIants and Suns will get two of the biggest crowds they have had. I only really have your very subject view that the AFL has been "drowned out" as counter evidence to the actual fact of very high ticket sales. The Suns and Giants investment is exactly the point you're not getting. To suggest the NRL has an equivalent strategy with the US is laughable.

2024-03-04T01:01:50+00:00

Dumbo

Roar Rookie


Complete waste of money.

2024-03-03T22:23:04+00:00

Kent Dorfman

Roar Rookie


well the AB's wish that game never happened!

2024-03-03T19:05:47+00:00

Billo

Roar Rookie


My great, great grandfather was from northern England and he swore blind in 1908 that Rugby League would never take off in Australia.

2024-03-03T06:27:08+00:00

Robbo

Roar Rookie


The real winner is for the people that can justify it being an excuse to visit Vegas - journalists, commentators, fans, club employees, potential sponsors, basically anyone that can write it off to tax. PVL and co. have guaranteed themselves an all expenses paid trip to US every February. The futility or otherwise of the exercise won't be known for a while

2024-03-03T03:00:04+00:00

Rob9

Roar Guru


‘And when discussing football in America it is more than the MLS. Those other sports are usually just one competition only’ I’m sorry but that just isn’t correct. Have you ever heard of this little body called the NCAA and what they get up to before? It’s kinda a big deal- particularly in Football which would be head, shoulders and knees above the MLS by all fan metrics. In addition to their respective college presences, the G League in basketball and the minors in baseball also suggest that these sports are so so so much more than their elite leagues. Yea soccers grown and has a strong presence in the States now. But the ‘big 4’ term exists for a reason and soccer doesn’t make that cut.

2024-03-03T02:56:38+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


Oh dear. "Tell me don't read articles without telling me you don't read articles". :laughing: :laughing: You posted these articles as evidence without reading the context from which they were based. You claimed MLS was the 3rd biggest code and you referenced attendance as a proof to where MLS sits. You referenced participation but didn't want to talk about how they found those figures but still posted an article which did. Now you want to include every international soccer league into the one "love soccer" statement but comparing that to one domestic code. Soccer in the US has about the same impact per capita as A League does in Australia. If you think that's big - good for you.

2024-03-03T02:53:01+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


looking forward to watching NRL at a great US stadium.

2024-03-03T02:31:37+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


I am loving all these 'other code' supporters jumping onto a league thread to tell everyone what a waste of time the Vegas game is. :laughing: :laughing:

2024-03-03T02:26:23+00:00

Grem

Roar Rookie


No problems with my understanding, but you have obvious problems in acknowledging the truth about football in America. Of course your sites must be the right ones and no one else’s are. And when discussing football in America it is more than the MLS. Those other sports are usually just one competition only – football is far from that. Just try and say it Nat – ssss, ssssoc, sssoccer is a big sport in America (and it will get a lot bigger yet). You’re allowed to admit it! But you can’t for some reason.

2024-03-03T01:51:52+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


If that 50 state strategy is successful, SOO will really interrupt the regular season :happy:

2024-03-03T01:36:24+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


Seriously, I have mentioned selective stats numerous times now but you either choose to ignore it or don't really understand it. Participation figures: Counted by way of people who have played any type of soccer, indoor or out, structured or not, just one time counts as participation. Do you think the ability to access any form of soccer over a ice rink my influence that stat? Attendance figures: Due to the nature of an ice hockey stadium most are limited to 20k capacity or less. 21/31 NHL teams have a 95% capacity attendance every week (15 of those are guaranteed sell outs). Can you see that it might be a bit hard to exceed an attendance average when the stadium capacity does not allow for it? Further they maintain this over 1300 games in the NHL season to the MLS 498. Total attendance for the season MLS: 10,870,325. NHL: 24,052,168. . Again, MLS vs NHL is not even close.

2024-03-02T22:53:27+00:00

Pneuma

Roar Rookie


Jesus mate. You’ve triggered a couple of insecure lads here. Anybody who doesn’t see the potential of this venture simply wants it to fail. We will see how it goes but so far so really bloody good.

2024-03-02T22:48:09+00:00

Pneuma

Roar Rookie


I really like the way you’ve downplayed the NRL in Vegas and up played the AFL round in NSW/Qld. It’s almost as if you have agenda. What could it be? Triggered much?

2024-03-02T22:10:08+00:00

Jackson Rogers

Roar Rookie


Rugby League will never take off in the usa & or reach the heights of their traditional sports NFL Baseball & Basketball waste of time...

2024-03-02T21:17:48+00:00

Rob9

Roar Guru


Yea that bucket of rocks seems to be the marketing department’s favourite tool. Came in handy when promoting SOO to the croweaters…

2024-03-02T21:07:25+00:00

Rob9

Roar Guru


And none of that stopped Biden using the name of a British military force to refer to them in a speech in Ireland when thanking Rob Kearney for a tie…

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