'We’d like to see Taniela stay': RA 'absolutely' want Thor for Lions, have 'contingency plans' for Rebels crisis

By Christy Doran / Editor

Overseas clubs are preparing to swoop on the carcass of the Melbourne Rebels, but Peter Horne says Rugby Australia has “contingency plans” should the Super Rugby franchise fold at season’s end, including how to retain Taniela Tupou.

Horne, RA’s new director of high performance, was ice-cool on Thursday in Sydney, as he spoke alongside Waratahs coach Darren Coleman and rising fullback Max Jorgensen after the 19-year-old turned down approaches from the NRL to sign a new two-year extension.

But the excitement of locking down one of the best young talents was somewhat overshadowed by the unfolding mess at the Rebels, who fell into voluntary administration in late January and are fighting for their future.

With their future up in the air amid a $22 million outstanding debt, all roads point towards the Rebels taking RA to court as they argue that the governing body didn’t follow through on promises of additional funding.

Nor does a resolution appear imminent, meaning the entire competition, including the roster planning of all five Australian Super Rugby franchises ahead of next year’s vitally important Lions tour, is in a state of limbo.

It also means coaches and players are assessing their next move, with Kevin Foote’s high-performance team only employed by RA until June 30.

For off-contract players like Carter Gordon, the uncertainty is a factor in the World Cup squad member’s next decision.

Others like Tupou, as well as captain Rob Leota, are contracted with RA until the end of 2025, but their deals could potential potentially be blown up should the Rebels go under.

Taniela Tupou’s future in Australian rugby is clouded given the financial crisis unfolding at the Rebels. (Photo by Asanka Ratnayake/Getty Images)

Already the multi-million-dollar Wallabies prop has attracted significant interest from overseas clubs who are watching closely the events in Melbourne.

Leinster, the heavyweight Irish province, have dangled one of their most expensive contracts ever in front of him, while it’s believed he is also sitting on a $1.6m offer in France.

The Roar understands new Wallabies coach Joe Schmidt is keen on ensuring Tupou stays in Australia ahead of next year’s Lions series, but a couple of years of frustration, which include several injuries and a bumpy final season at the Reds followed by the mess unfolding at the Rebels, could see him leave.

Horne, who was pivotal in Schmidt signing on as Wallabies coach, insisted RA was “absolutely” intent on keeping Tupou despite his injury troubles over the past 24 months.

“We need we keep all our best players within the system, and we want to make sure that they’re performing and reaching their potential within Super Rugby and then available for selection,” Horne said.

“We desperately want to see all players perform well in this competition. Then it’s over to Joe and the team to find the best combination for the Wallabies.

“At the moment, yeah, 100 per cent we’d like to see Taniela stay.”

Taniela Tupou in action against England during the 2022 home series. (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

Slowing the process of course is the situation unfolding at the Rebels.

Horne admitted the governing body had “contingency plans” should a resolution not be found quickly, but he admitted they needed “plenty of water to go quickly under the bridge” to get their house in order ahead of the game’s most important three years in their history.

“The primary focus is obviously to get through the administration process as quickly as possible,” he said.

“Joe is in contact with the players on a regular basis.

“I tell you now, the agents constantly contact us. So that’s OK, we’ll keep the dialogue going.

“We don’t want to lose anyone, we want to keep them in our system. They’re important to our overall broader rugby environment and we need we need as many of our best players to stay, regardless of what the outcome is.”

It’s not just trying to lock down Australia’s best talent that Horne is in charge of, with the former World Rugby general manager also playing a role in backfilling Schmidt’s Wallabies coaching team.

While RA announced Laurie Fisher as one of Schmidt’s assistant coach, Horne confirmed they are advertising for a lineout forwards coach.

Slowing that process has been who is available.

New Director of High Performance Peter Horne was cool as a cucumber during Thursday’s press conference at the Waratahs HQ. (Photo by Mark Evans/Getty Images for Rugby Australia)

Schmidt has looked at some of his former assistants like Greg Feek and Jono Gibbes to jump on board, but both coaches are currently employed by New Zealand Rugby.

Even then, RA would prefer some local coaches to join Schmidt’s team.

The issue, however, is who given the limited number of experienced and proven forwards coaches involved with Australian rugby.

“Joe’s been working pretty hard to get that together,” Horne said.

“We’ve got some recruitments that we’re doing, it’s pretty obvious we’re in the market for an assistant forwards-lineout coach. We’ll do some interviews next week on that.

“We’ve got a head of strength and conditioning in the market at the moment, we need an analyst. And there’s probably about another six to eight roles that will go to the market.”

Waratahs coach Darren Coleman said he had been impressed by Schmidt’s desire to get stuck in and help out the current cohort of Super Rugby coaches.

“Joe’s an awesome man,” Coleman said. “He’s a bit of an encyclopaedia of rugby.

“You can’t not hold him in awe of what he’s done in the world game.

“What I liked most besides his openness and easiness to get along with and chat, his willingness to want to get to know the players outside of footy.

“He’ll make his own assertions on what they do on the field, but we’ve had lots of chats around the character, the type of people that boys I’ve got here, how they respond and react to different situations. So, he’s definitely doing his homework.

“As Pete said, he’s always open, he’ll obviously watch our game closely and he’ll throw me a few tips here and there, and I really enjoy that.”

The Crowd Says:

2024-04-01T22:16:35+00:00

Gary Russell-Sharam

Roar Rookie


I'm with you on this issue Jez, I've been commenting on this for a few months now and my opinion is aligned with yours

2024-04-01T06:08:06+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


Plus two other 10s who can readily switch to 15 in Donaldson and Harrison, and presumably Lynaugh although I barely know the guy.

2024-03-31T23:20:59+00:00

cs

Roar Guru


Kellaway and, in no particular order, Wright, Campbell, Jorgensen and Petaia.

2024-03-31T17:42:51+00:00

Honest Max

Roar Rookie


Slipper is a born journeyman that is front and centre every time our scrum is dominated. Australia will never win a thing by rewarding mediocrity, which epitomises Slipper.

2024-03-31T09:23:51+00:00

JimBob

Roar Rookie


"A talent jam at 15" pray tell, name your 3 best 15s available for the Wallabies?

2024-03-31T01:35:46+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


The bloke was reds player of the year something like 3 years in a row. How is that not consistent :laughing:

2024-03-31T00:00:08+00:00

southcoastboy

Roar Rookie


I totally agree his fitness is below par but think more time running/sprints/whatever is needed to build his cardio/endurance; he spends an inordinate amount of time walking. He needs to drop 10kg as well; less weight will hopefully mean less load-bearing injuries. And it needs attention now, not later when the tests are just around the corner. You’re spot-on about him being a quality THP, he just needs that fitness back to prove it. Fingers crossed!

2024-03-30T20:00:48+00:00

Rocky's Rules

Roar Rookie


@Honest Max Let's be honest about Tupou. On his day (a few times per season) he can dominate scrums (only scrums) against other Aust SR teams. He dominates nothing against the NZ teams and never has. His Test career is as inconsistent as his injuries. I remember he had great 2 games against SA about 2 years ago. Then faded to dud for the rest of the season as usual. He's had maybe another 3 good games in Tests also - about 5 in total as a WB. In the rest he's been an over hyped dud imo - either unfit, not in the mood or injured. I rate Alan AA, Bell and Slipper as better, more consistent props :)

2024-03-30T06:53:53+00:00

Honest Max

Roar Rookie


Yet, he dominates SR so much that his team wins. You cheer on Nonggorr and Talakai - I’ll stick with Nella.

2024-03-30T02:56:47+00:00

Mike

Roar Rookie


Mate, CG has no tactical kicking game and couldnt organise a backline unopposed at training. These are key things for a #10. Running round a forward to score a try is not what he's there for.

2024-03-30T02:53:57+00:00

Mike

Roar Rookie


Definitely. And declan meredith.

2024-03-30T02:52:38+00:00

Mike

Roar Rookie


You dont seem to have watched the brumbies much. Debreczeni at #10 was a star v NZ sides back end of SR last year. Best kicking game in the country. So yeah-nah carter for brumbies thanks. Reds and brumbies hoping tahs or force have to take him. wont help carter anyway as brumbies backs ineligible for wallabies remember.

2024-03-30T01:13:00+00:00

El Flash

Roar Rookie


Jacko, the reason we are encouraged to comment on these articles is simply to show everyone has an opinion. And that is all they are ... opinions.

2024-03-30T01:11:21+00:00

El Flash

Roar Rookie


I bet if Kellaway had his time over again. The Tahs .............. LOL.

2024-03-30T00:57:18+00:00

El Flash

Roar Rookie


Let him go. He's lazy, overweight & over hyped.

2024-03-29T23:50:40+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Yep after watching Tupou in last nights game against the Tah's his big issue is his fitness. I realise he's had his injury problems, but now he really needs to concentrate on his fitness. No doubt if Schmidt does call him up, he'll be spending more time in the Gym, as it was so noticeable last night, as where he is ATM he'll be dealt to by some handy looseheads. He's a quality tighthead when he's firing on all cylinders.

2024-03-29T21:26:26+00:00

Honest Max

Roar Rookie


Three wins for the Rebels based on scrum dominance. Pro Rugby is about winning, right? Without Tupou the Rebels are naught from 6 in 2024.

2024-03-29T21:24:58+00:00

Honest Max

Roar Rookie


Nella’s destruction of the Tahs’ scrum, as well as the try (the turnover didn’t hurt) helped his team get their third win. The previous 2 wins were also on the back of the scrum dominance he delivered. He’s not at his best and he deserves some criticism, but anyone doubting his ability and/or doesn’t believe he should be a priority must just like losing.

2024-03-29T20:28:20+00:00

Rocky's Rules

Roar Rookie


The Rebels future is not "up in the air". They are dead and won't have a team after end of this season. Would be nice if the hugely over-rated T Tupou had 1 good injury free season in Oz before he grabs the $$ and goes OS. A fit, and in form, Tupou would be an asset for the WBs but how many times have we seen that the past 4 years - once or twice ?? The article alleges Test dud R Leota is contracted to RA until 2025 - why? He's never been Test standard and is having another ordinary season. He'd be a poor buy for any other club at seasons end imo. Meanwhile, Rebels have a few other players who do have potential and would be good buys for other clubs. Kellaway is already signed to Tahs. C Gordon is an excellent buy. LSL is ok at provincial level. If I was a provincial talent scout I wouldn't be interested in anyone else. How did Kemeny and Uelese make the WB RWC squad ?? Dud Leota was selected instead of the excellent P Samu. Those selections were as silly as Isaac F-L. Eddie must have been on drugs :laughing:

2024-03-29T11:12:07+00:00

Canberrafella

Roar Rookie


I’m not bagging him - I think Kiss is doing a great job with the Reds - however I also think Larkham & Foote aren’t bad coaches either!

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