The Ashes cricket scores: England vs Australia 3rd Test, Day 4 live scores, blog

Carey is a fighter and can hang around. At worst he’d offer us what Paine is doing currently. I have no doubt that Carey will be installed in the Aussie side by this summer

I mean more in the way of sacking the captain in the middle of the series. Unlikely

Mate grow up, it’s a game of cricket. If you cannot fine it in heart to be gracious after a match like that then perhaps cricket isn’t the sport for you

Pedro, you obviously can't see it from the other perspective because beating England has been beat into you since you were a kid. That was the best Test knock I've ever seen, and in my eyes deserved to win because of Stokes God mode effort. It was that good that when he got close to the total I thought to hell with it, how good will this series be if if it goes to the last test. As an Australian I would like us to beat England, for sure, but I would most certainly watch high quality cricket and see us beat them 5-0 every series as you probably would. It's not good for the game. And just because half of the barmy army are braindead drunkard nationalists, doesn't mean every Australian cricket fan has to follow your archaic and poor attitude. Don't cry too much of the result lol.

1st day was rained out. Toss was taken on the second day which was fully sunny. Did you even watch the match?"What's wrong with two batsman saving the match". What's wrong if I expect the Aussie captain to score some runs under pressure?

Exciting sure, but nothing like that ride over four days to finish with a photo at the line.

Its plain stupid that umpires don't call for a LBW review and give a soft decision if its marginal. England having reviews is irrelevant with umpires call in play.

Disagree with you ritchie. Paine by his own admission today has botched half a dozen drs and today was most critical. Fact is if we had the referral , we win the test match. its just a fact and paine called the awful half baked referral the over before, he knew it pitched off the stumps down leg by some distance. It was total complacency . Moreover the bowlers were amazing up until one spell today with the new ball where they got a bit lose . Yesterday thought they throttled england off runs in a pitch going flat. Today it got even flatter. Headingly often has done that in the past with big run chases being made (west indies two years ago 320 made fourth innings easily only losing 3 wickets ) . Australia opened batting in the rain and bad light on and off. England batted in sunny conditions both innings , especially last day or so. Im not blaming the keeper I’m blaming our captain. He’s been reckless, he thew away his innings when we needed him first test, he’s keeping has been ok but he’s dropped a few , his fielding placement and tactics ordinary in multiple tests , he’s not making runs but the worst sin was the drs today. It was just complacent. It cost us and I’m standing by that despite poor umpiring next over. Id say englands top order is as bad as australias and give or take some poor technique from wade in particular on moving wickets , the aussie bowlers have done pretty well on a pitch that began to favor batting. Smith and Laba every bit as good as stokes. We’ve had some great performances . Not arguing just going on what I’m watching as facts . Admittedly reckless umpiring with a dead set plum ball today was just as bad as Paines drs shambles. Can forgive a dropped catch or missed stumping under pressure can’t forgive complacent captaining and stupid decision making by paine who is the leader. I’m standing by what I said not sure what match you were watching today

Paulo , it was a distance outside with the pitch, I think it was a really poor referral the look on his face was “may as well refer” with 2 overs left but really he was looked resigned to the fact it wasnt to me, it was so half hearted if you look at him on screen referring. You just can’t do that as captain when you need to keep the referral up your sleeve and boy did it come back to hurt him. Lets remember paine has called 5 or 6 wrong and he admitted it afterwards . its poor decision making. today we paid the price with the entire test match going down as a loss. it may well lose us the ashes

great so paine is right at the end of the run at 35 and he's being allowed to captain the side with awful errors.

Yes it absolutely did. The umpiring has been truly woeful in this series, as bad as I’ve ever seen and the decision by Wilson was indeed another terrible one...which is precisely why wasting their last remaining review on what they did was just bizarre.

No you can’t and you’re right, but the one by Paine and co was so wilfully stupid that it’s hard to have any sympathy about Wilson’s howler, precisely because it could always happen, therefore don’t waste a review so needlessly.

I actually knew that Rowdy, unlike you most Aussies don’t.

It depends if you want accuracy or if you don’t want delays. I’d argue that test cricket takes 5 days and there is a good pause between play when bowlers return to their mark (at least for the quicks) to review on the fly. They do live reviews in the NBA and the fans and players hate it because of the interruptions. If Stokes has been correctly given out on review, then it’s not an ideal end to the drama, but it is the correct one. England have won 2 massive matches in the last few months, where within 30 seconds of the event everyone watching knows a mistake has been made and the wrong result eventuated. 1 review, 10 reviews or no reviews - the technology is there now and every decision is under the microscope.

Also if Archer was playing for his home country Smith wouldn't have been injured and Australia would've won the 2nd and 3rd test

Not sure how you’re making Paine responsible for the entire loss. Maybe it has something to do with our continued batting failures, poor bowling spells, dropped catches and some excellent fight back from Root, Denly and Stokes. The 350 lead was an illusion given the circumstances. Australia underperformed with the bat again, with England’s 67 simply hiding the fact. The 4th innings was played on the best day for batting against an attack that hadn’t spent much time in the sheds. Australia has never been good with the reviews, under any captain. They’re too hot headed. With a lot of umpiring calls going against us this series they have to take that out of the equation - bat for longer periods and make runs. Arguing about wasting reviews and blaming the wicketkeeper (who was never picked as a batsmen remember) is simply making an excuse for the real issues.

Fine lines between glory and despair.

Mate if you think that the ashes is won or lost based on when and when not to review, cricket really is losing its way.

He did both, within 3 balls

So, the team loses, all the captains fault if it’s Paine. The captain sees his vice captain explaining to a junior team member how to rough the ball up with sand paper and continues walking past, and it’s not his fault, if it’s Smith? The cheating is down to poor leadership and control over your team culture and VC.