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Jaguares keep getting better with each season. They have been a great addition to the Super Rugby competition.

Besides having the press continuously say that the Jaguares are the Argentine national team, Jaguares have demonstrated to the fans that they are fun to watch and can entertain and play at top level like the best in the business. Certainly the press never said the same back in 2016 when the Jaguares played their first season in the Super Rugby competition and were considered "the punching ball" of the competition. Flip Flopping at its best. Or GataFlorismo as the argentinians say.

I wrote something hours ago and is still been held for review. Why?

Partially, when DH was in charged of the Pumas that rule did not existed.

Sorry I meant to name Codie Taylor not Flynn. mental slip.

If I were to look at the Jaguares at arm's length, and remove my likely Argie bias, I would say that Quesada has been the most influential person for the team. I saw him first time in 1999, sitting with Welsh fans and friends at Millenium for the first match of the RWC. He was unflappable. His timing for kicking the ball was slow, methodical and careful. The entire RWC always saw him in control. He then stayed in France and had a coaching career starting as a kicking coach progressing to head coach of Stade Français. He made them league champions. The French, even though not many are French players at any French club, have somewhat similar personalities to Argies. They are irascible, temperamental, emotional and passionate. He learnt how to deal with that character type. By the time he came back to Argentina, he had a great curriculum from the technical and from the emotional point of view. It is striking to see him in the coaches box. Always alone, no computers or screens, no paper to take notes, just a walkie-talkie. He appears always calm and I have never seen him doing emotional outbursts. Same thing in press conferences. Always extremely polite, controlled and pleasant. I wonder if that same attitude is transferred to the team. His English is also impeccable. I think it has, as this year there have been fewer incidents of hanky panky and even "soccer diving" by players. Having Landajo off may have made a difference. Queso (and Ledesma) had to work to develop props and strengthen the scrum, besides discipline and mental control. They found a few very young props with a lot of potential. But you saw yesterday when one had to replace his jersey, that they still have a lot of "baby fat" or "blubber" that is not productive anymore. That may be acceptable in a 20 year old, but you will not see it in a 28 year old top level prop. Nor Kisthoff or Owen Franks have it. This will be their weakness if they make it to the final against the Crusaders. Their front row is just formidable. Interestingly, the Crusaders new hooker can't throw to the line-out if his life depended on it. That is their weakness. They need Corey Flynn as the Jaguares have better players in Montoya/Creevy than Flynn's replacement. Another interesting quirk is that the Jaguares backs, agile and skillful as they are, are also physically small. Only Boffelli is a big boy. They rely on the back row to be ferocious in defense and use speed over physicality. Mounga may be better prepared to deal with line speed. If both make it, it will be an interesting game. I started the year thinking that Quesada would be the most important change. After a few games I called them schizophrenic. I am so glad to be wrong about the diagnosis. I hope they stay clam, in control and keep playing smart rugby. My Argie heart wants them to go all the way.

I am not sure that the problem was Creevy's relationship with the referees but probably that it went to his head and that he was surrounded by a group of players that didn't have the right attitude. I think that now the team shows itself as a more humble group.

This has been mentioned and discussed here before.

This could maybe be fun to watch, I joined a YouTube show and commented on the game last night. Have a look and tell me what you think Nobes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgElLRdvqC4

the acceptance from Creevy of his new role as leader, not captain, This has been a brilliant move for all partners, Creevy is in his right element and the refs have slowly started to change their attitude towards the team. Creevy is a leader of men, but he is no diplomat ????

Firstly congratulations to Argentina Rugby. Its quite a feat to start a team in a fierce competition such as Super Rugby and within 5 years come 2nd in the competition and be hosting finals matches. All of Argentina should be proud of Los Jaguares. It was a funny match to watch from Australia. Two Aussie teams were barracking for each side in this match. Brumbies were obviously cheering for the Sharks while the Rebels were likely cheering for the Jaguares. Sharks win and Brumbies might come 2nd, Jaguares win and Rebels stay in the top 8 (for another week at least). From a Tahs fan, good luck in the finals campaign. :)

I agree with the fact that Jaguares Is a more mature team and that it is reflected by the players outside the field. I think that there are several issues with this. The departure or minimization of influence of some players (Senatore, Landajo, Gonzalez Amorosino) on One hand and the acceptance from Creevy of his new role as leader, not captain, allowed the team to have a better harmony. That is also reflected in how they, now, actually look and feel like a tight group, like a family.

About the scrum, it is 50% true. The other 50% is mainly because some years ago UAR banned to push more than a meter in the senior level in all Argentina competitions. As you probably know that happen after some serious injuries across the country. At the end of last year, UAR look for a national coach to enhance an unify the skills in an open bid, with more that 100's plan submitted from different specialist. Sources: (in spanish sorry) - http://uar.com.ar/2018/11/20/scrum-entrenador-nacional-argentino/ - https://www.espn.com.ar/rugby/nota/_/id/5385696/la-uar-tiene-nuevo-entrenador-nacional-de-scrum

I love coming here and reading the opinions of people who love rugby like me, and who also know! and learn! Beautiful page with people who know! Best regards from Argentina!

Off course, it was not Perez fault. The mistake was done by the people that gave him responsibility. I do think we owe DH the lack of scrum that has been one of the main problems in Argentina. If you refer to the skills , skills, any coach from NZ second or third division would have done it without hurting the rest of the game. If he was so good how come he was never hired from any nation ( at least tier two) after coaching the Pumas? No Martin, I have memory, and you should have also so we never make the same mistake again.

Agree, but don't put the initial result on Aspirina Perez shoulders. He mentor a great part of this team started as a Pampas XV playing Vodacom Cup and in that time no one was interested to be in the lion's den... I think we owe him and Hurcade a lift in our attacking skill. They pickup Graham Henry preaching on attack, and in some extend Alex Willy, too. Sure we could pickup a some fancy NZ coach and had some better results before. But this would have been disregard our own sport history, unique culture and the importance of the clubs. I mean, politics! :-)

With two SA derbies coming up next week we might only see two of their teams in the quarters after all. Bulls v Lions and Stormers v Sharks will eliminate two of those teams if Otago and the Rebels win at home.

Yes but if they win next week they shouldn’t have to fly to BA to, if you are right, meet finally in CHCH.

Hypothetically speaking, of course, because they just weren't up to it. They might even provide all 4 away teams!! (but probably 3 is more realistic)

Yes, but Saders have done the hard work - again. They've got the home run throughout the playoffs and will likely win again.