NSW lost Origin because of poor discipline

If you go through the list again I have actually put players in that deserve to be there. Hayne goes back to his rightful position and can add the leadership qualties we are desperate for. The centres and wingers are up for grabs with Dugan, Ferguson and Tedesco needing to prove what they can offer more for Origin. I have put Maloney in the half spot and Moylan into 5/8 which should keep Maloney busy. We can work from there as how we can improve or remove if not up to scratch. The forwards have also had adjustments with Fifita and Woods out of the picture However you are right each position needs a good soul search as to who is an origin player and what position they should play.

I think that you have largely just rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic there. I believe a clean-out is required and they need to start from scratch by selecting the best players in their respective positions and institute a "no dickhead" policy to eliminate penalty magnets like Maloney.

Good point about the rushing Qld defense, also NSW were not so much as static but actually backing away.

This line of tack has been a common thread throughout NSW's losses - we didn't play to our best ability/we lacked discipline/lacked experience etc etc, therefore we lost. James Maloney reckoned they played like a reserve grade squad, but failed to acknowledge the quality of the opposition. Could it possibly be, that QLD actually are a better team with better individual players who beat NSW based on their own skill and ability? Crazy thought. Aside from Boyd Cordner, there's a certain level of arrogance/lack of respect in this NSW team given life under Gallen's leadership and still given breath today, this idea that they are naturally a better side, as long as they turn up and play on the day, and it is this that will give QLD plenty of ammo for years to come

Totally agree, witty reference. Woods lying on has back, dry humping the air, holding onto a defender trying to milk a penalty. He did it every hit up in the first half instead of playing the ball as quick as he could. Any roll on from his surrender powder puff hit up lost due to him wasting 10 seconds trying to get a penalty. He is a complete joke of a front rower, feel sorry for doggies fans. Let Reynolds go for this pretender!!!

Regarding slow play the balls, I'd suggest Andrew Fafita's nickname should be "unsuccessfully tries to milk a penalty" but then what would I call Aaron Woods?

Nsw are one trick ponies, they made great gains for 1.5 games going up the centre with an inside pass, however it did not work for the last 1.5 games of the series as Qld adjusted. Plan B for the blues was bomb the corners. Daley and co are just so arrogant that they thought Qld would not adjust. Carry on NSW you just keep on giving to QRL.

I completely disagree Ray. I thought Klemmer's gesture showed respect and emotional maturity and this is why Klemmer is one of the few NSW players that stood up last night - I think Smith did not see the extended hand and did not "ignore him" due to hatred. I think the thing that has separated QLD from NSW over the past decade is a lack of hatred. Gallen and co. have tried to hate QLD but QLD in response have just got on the playing good football in a professional manner. The biggest and most pointless gesture of poorly-aimed emotion was from Maloney last night when he took Gillette's boot and threw it into the crowd. This anger-fuelled emotional child might do better by watching the cool head of Cronk who I am sure would have responded completely differently in the same instance. Raw emotion and anger will always make mistakes and fall to cool, calm intelligence, especially at SOO level. Hatred on the field is for dinosaurs like Tommy Redonicos (spelling?).

Thank you Laurie Daley for coaching NSW SOO. However despite your best efforts it is not enough for you to coach NSW again. With my own knowledge and expertise in coaching, I feel that I have the confidence to do much better then what has been offered. To be NSW coach is only wishful thinking on my part but such is the frustration in where we are at the moment. I get so sick and tired hearing how good they are knowing full well how poor we are. We are now at war! One of the most knowledgeable on Rugby League is Andrew Johns and it would be great to have him at the helm. However he has Bi-Polar so he would need a lot support along the way. His main aim should be to solely select the team and to be their tactician knowing full well we got stop the club football mentality and the cheap penalties we give away. The rest of what he has to do can be given to a selective team who can handle those chores. In regards to the team in SOO 3 you can see some of the problems why we are where we are. Despite James Tedesco being outstanding he has to make way for Jarrod Hayne to be fullback. Hayne has the knowledge, experience and is best suited to fullback full stop. We need him there to direct the team from the back. He can do that because he is highly regarded by the team, he can read the play and urge the players on. Jarrod can play a similar role like Billy Slater. This is why he must be made captain as well! With Josh Dugan, James Tedesco and Blake Ferguson we have three fullback/centres who need to learn to improve their passing skills if they want to be good in either role. They are very aggressive attacking players which is what we want but passing adds another dimension in attack and we need that. To work out the centres and wingers it needs to be examined carefully who and what we need. This insanity that if we win in the forwards we win the game is a fallacy. We have to be very good right throughout the team including the backs. James Maloney should be the ½ back and Matt Moylan the 5/8th simply because they will ask all the questions from the opposition if given the right platform. Despite problems with Maloney, his lack of discipline just needs a severe warning. Josh Jackson , Boyd Cordner would be in the back row with Tyson Frizell as lock. Nathan Peats as hooker but he needs to run more from dummy half if he wants continue in that role. Front row should be Jack De Belin and Jake Trbojevic as both have good passing skills and hit the line well. On reserve would be David Klemmer and Paul Vaughan with last two reserves to be decided as others have not been good enough to hold their position. We need to have the spine of Hayne, Maloney, Moylan and Peats if ever we are going to steady the ship for the future. They now have the experience with each other and we can improve on this as time goes by. Of course everything can and will change but this is based on the last game they played and hopefully this is how we can improve on that.

Whining much NSW?

Qld rushing defence enabled them to close down the NSW props from making yardage & getting offloads, NSW static defence enabled Qld to get momentum, have support runners, allow less defenders in the tackle & get offloads & allowed Smith to run the game from dummy half.

The refereeing is different in Origin from the NRL, and Qld have known that for years. Refs put away their whistles for head shots, grubby play and basic niggle, the wrestle and most recently blocking runners. All of which would be penalized in the NRL. Qld play hard and rough knowing that the refs will rarely blow a penalty, they play to not give penalties away, whilst NSW keep trying to win penalties as you would in the NRL on a weekly basis.

NSW have to start from scratch, from coaching staff to players.

Interesting observation, I was thinking tatts don't look quite so aggressive in a losing changeroom.

NSW were beaten by better football brains. Laurie, Ricky, Bellamy, Sheens and yes even Gould can have stronger, faster players with all the plans in the world but once the ball is kicked off the players own the result. Smith, Slater and Cronk are constantly looking for weakness in the defensive line. Queensland had a plan but they changed up the attack with Smith running from dummy half and then playing first reciever shifting it wide quickly. Smith, Slater, Cronk and Munster are smart players. Smith lead from the front. As for discipline the players on your team come from being selected. This might be left field but when I look at a person covered in tatoos I think of attention seeker. They are also people that don't really look past themselves and the moment. It is also generally done by young immature people without disipline who seek attention or a trying to present a tough image.

I think NSW highlighted immediately after the match why we are Losers,with a capital L. While Klemmer was probably the best for NSW, witnessing him not being able to stick his paw out fast enough to shake Smith's hand as the siren blew shows we have a weak mindset. Smith ignored him in true Qld style because he hates him and all NSW players, & it takes a little while to go from match mindset, back to TV good guy mode. NSW players need to put behind them the NRL's PC doctrines, forget the prayer circles and get some hate and bottle back into their play.

This is the most intelligent and insightful 'aftermath' article I've read. Well done, Andrew - you nailed it. We read that Wade Graham blamed himself for the Game Two loss because of his dumb play - rushing up out of the line on McGuire trying to make the big hit instead of holding the line. There was also of course his penalty on stripping the ball from Gagai when the Blues had a chance to consolidate their field position late in the game. So what has Wade Graham learnt? Absolutely nothing. To use Joey Johns' words from last night - 'he just doesn't get it. And he never will. This Blues team deserves to be purged - but it needs to be done intelligently and based on a criteria of the type of player you want representing the state - it's a 'character' thing. It needs to be done by someone with some vision and that isn't Laurie Daley...lovely guy though he is...

I'm not sure you can purely put it down to poor discipline, the stats from the game were surprisingly even and the Blues actually won the penalty count. Sure it may have cost them an oportunity or two but QLD also gave away a couple cheap penalties in the Blues 20 to let them out of trouble too. I think the most worrying part for NSW supporters is that neither the coaching staff or the players seem to know what went wrong. They get flogged and they just seem to write it off as an annomaly and next year its back to being "their time". So far Daley has overseen two absolute floggings in two deciders over the last three years despite his team being well favoured for both games, surely NSW can't keep looking to him for the answers.

It was good that Melbourne Storm and a few ring-ins could beat New South Wales. well done Storm! We rent our team out to Queensland 3 times a year just to put the state of New South Wales back in their box.

discipline and poor play. How much more threatening did Qld look with the ball? Easy metres on the fringes and out of dummy half. in the entire series did Ferguson ever get the ball in a scoring position?