Carlton Blues vs Fremantle Dockers: AFL live scores, blog

My post has the facts, no need for you to take it personally anon, I'm just describing your behaviour. Your post, on the other hand, is just full of emotional gobbledegook and singular hypotheses you've made up in your head. Whatever "facts" you might claim, you refuse to actually address any challenges to anyway instead game playing and completely dodging.

Just debate my points. No need to get personal which is what a lot of you like to do when you can debate me on the facts.

It is pretty cute you being all twisted in your nickers about accountability, what with you using the moniker “anon”, frequently morphing and using copious amounts of red herrings, straw men, kitchen sinking, waffling and general distractions in just about every post, to be up there in the running as the least accountable poster on here.

When you accept a situation as pathetic as having a coach like Bolton who isn't even on a guaranteed contract you deserve to get smashed. If the club can't even put the faith in the coach to guarantee him a contract how can you expect the players to give everything for him. Basically the club are saying they aren't sure whether Bolton is the guy they should commit to. Just a real loser mentality. I've never heard of such a thing were a coach is on a normal employee's contract. What coach worth his salt would accept a contract such as that? The whole thing is a complete shambles. AFL has turned into politics where no-one is accountable, everything is the last administration's fault, just give us 5 more years and we really, really, promise to turn it around. Just trust me...

Carlton played finals in 2013, won 11 games in 2012 and have never been as bad as this since. Blame the coaches, the players, administration,injuries or whatever, but the only way to go is to keep on taking the Kool-aid. The Suns and Saints also seem destined for the bottom of the heap. Merge,drop,transfer. Nothing will happen while the AFL keep sucking on the cash teat.Thwarting soccer and NRL seems to be their sole rationale and the "good of the game" will always take second place.

Blaming is largely useless, rarely gets to the root cause, instead lazily looks to satisfy ill-disciplined anger. Footy tends to be a bit overheated as far as coaching tenures go. Lists can go up and down in their development and a year or two ain't really a huge dataset in reality. The sort of rash overwrought reactionary response you tend to favour would've seen Clarkson sacked in 2010.

Certainly happy to get the win going into the bye, but my word are Carlton bad or what!? Certainly makes me feel better about our development at Freo. We've looked good at certain stages and terrible at others but we at least seem to be trending slowly in the right direction. Lots of improvement to come.

Saints come back win well and truly going ensure “captain Carlton” will be in the furnace this week. If only Freo hadn’t taken the foot of the gas

I've been telling you that forever. Luke McPharlin has been saying it since he arrived.

Not sure if it will be Carlton or the Saints copping the headlines next week. I had to check Fremantle were playing in Melbourne with that result.

If Carlton had come close or won Macca and the other non stop Carlton and Bolton fan boys would have 50 + posts..like they have for weeks and I've held back saying what the Blues are crap, Bolton isn't up to it..and they are are a gone club..only got players before because of history and their supporter base but it's GAWN ...they are only a brand that's failing..like Sunbeam washing machines ....history..the AFL needs to cull one or two Melbourne teams...Carlton's the first cab off the rank..

6 day break, on the road and a slog V the crows last weekend probably contributed to flattness in the second half..oh and that carlton probably tried harder as well

The AFL as a competition is already a two tier competition. It's not in danger of becoming one - it has been for years Carlton, Saints, North, Suns, Brisbane, Gold Coast, and I'd add Fremantle and Port Adelaide - all clubs that will never have sustained success that transcends form. This result is less a problem for Carlton and more a problem for the AFL. It has to field 18 teams and it has to make sure they're competitive. The players are killing the integrity of the competition with their trade veto and people are now starting to realise what a load of bollocks this whole equalisation farce is, and are switching off in droves. I cheer results like this today. I hope there's more of them. Better this than the game drags along showing signs of life for a few more years. Just rip the scab off and let the bloodletting begin

How good would he be as a defensive forward that takes marks and kicks well?

Who is to say that a new coach at Collingwood wouldn't get similar results this year? A different coach might have got much better results last year at Collingwood. You can make a bad decision but get a good result as was the case in re-signing Buckley. That doesn't justify bad decisions because over a lifetime the bad decisions will catch up with you (or maybe not if you're very lucky). This is about probabilities. In all probability Bolton is a rubbish coach. His record reflects that, the effort his players give reflect that. It's not about giving him time to succeed. It's not about giving him a "fair go". He's a head coach in a competitive industry. He's paid to get results nothing else. He's hasn't got results so far, and in all probability won't in the future. It gets to the point where no coach, no employee, can be fired for anything and must be given limitless chances to succeed because everyone is a premiership coach or star employee in the making.

Yeah that was a pretty lazy second half but that first half was impressive. Also nice was that Carlton did at least put in some effort in the second half.

Carlton stink

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the recent Collingwood resurgence also reinforcing that logic.. BTW I'm not subscribing to it but it's a hard narrative to ignore.