Six rounds to go: Every club's run home

By Gordon P Smith / Roar Guru

With just six rounds remaining in the home-and-away season, let’s look at the projections for each team on the run home.

For each club, we’ll share our ELO-Following Football rating along with their current record, their up-to-date expectations result (see The Expectation Game, Redux from two weeks ago), and the forecast for each of their six remaining games from the average of our ELO-FF ratings and from a betting agency (each one is batting over 2/3 correct for the season).

Understand that these predictions are extremely volatile. I made a preliminary version of this before Round 17 (R17), hoping to simply make slight adjustments from the results of this weekend’s games.

After Saturday’s games, I clung to that delusion while drastically changing numbers for GWS and Brisbane, but once Port lost on Sunday I was doomed to spend my World Cup final recalculating every upcoming game. Footy is such a wonderful game!

Any game with a margin of 16 points or more is assumed to be a win (as if such a guess can be justified in this league); any game closer than that is up for grabs.

We’ll compare the close win and loss predictions to come to a balanced guess at the most likely final record after Round 23 for each team.

Richmond (12-4. 135.0% – ELO-FF rating of 77.1)
Current total: 12 wins (14.19 expected wins) – 2.19 wins below expectations
Rounds 18-23: SK (at Eth) – W (by 34 pts); CW (at MCG) – W (20); GE (at MCG) – W (21); GC (at Metr) – W (59); ES (at MCG) – W (22); WB (at MCG) – W (52). 6W, 0L, no? games.

Predicted final record: 18-4, first place; minor premiers.

West Coast (12-4, 122.4% – rating of 64.2)
Current total: 12 wins (9.19 expected wins) – 2.81 wins above expectations
Rounds 18-23: WB (at Opt) – W (45 pts); NM (at Taz) – W? (3); FR (at Opt) – W (33); PA (at AO) – L? (10); ME (at Opt) – W? (10); BL (at Gab) – W? (7). 2W, 3W?, 1L?

Predicted final record: 17-5, second place. (Could range from 14-18 wins)

Sydney (11-5, 117.3% – rating of 66.2)
Current total: 11 wins (12.57 expected wins) – 1.57 wins below expectations
Rounds 18-23: GC (at SCG) – W (54 pts) ; ES (at Eth) – W? (3) ; CW (at SCG) – W? (12); ME (at MCG) – L? (8); GW (at Spot) – L? (5); HA (at SCG) – W (16). 2W, 2W?, 2L?.

The two possible losses for the Swans seem more likely to go Sydney’s way than the chance of the Magpies upsetting them in Round 20.

Predicted final record: 15-7, third place. (Could range from 13-17 wins.)

Collingwood (11-5, 117.6% – rating of 57.8)
Current total: 11 wins (9.71 expected wins) – 1.29 wins above expectations
Rounds 18-23: NM (at MCG) – W? (by 12 pts): RI (at MCG) – L (20) ; SY (at SCG) – L? (12); BL (at Eth) – W (19); PA (at MCG) – W? (8); FR (at Opt) – W (20). 2W, 2W?, 1L?, 1L.
Predicted final record: 15-7, fourth place. (Could range from 13-16 wins.)

Port Adelaide (11-5, 115.9% – rating of 56.8)
Current total: 11 wins (10.43 expected wins) – 0.57 wins above expectations
Rounds 18-23: GW (at AO) – W? (by 4 pts); WB (at Balla) – W (18); AD (at AO) – W? (3); WC (at AO) – W? (10); CW (at MCG) – L? (8); ES (at AO) – W? (14). 1W, 4W?, 1L?

Hard to believe with their new injuries they won’t lose to either GWS or Adelaide, so we’ll say 4-2.

Predicted final record: 15-7, probably fifth place. (Could range from 12-17 wins.)

(Photo by Mark Brake/Getty Images)

Melbourne (10-6, 130.2% – rating of 68.1)
Current total: 10 wins (12.50 expected wins) – 2.50 wins below expectations
Rounds 18-23: GE (at Geel) – L?(5 pts); AD (at AO) – W? (1); GC (at MCG) – W(61); SY (at MCG) – W?(8); WC (at Opt) – L? (10); GW (at MCG) – W? (11). 1W, 3W?, 2L?

Predicted final record: 14-8, sixth place on percentage over just about anyone. (Could range from 11-16 wins.)

Geelong (9-7, 119.5% – rating of 63.3)
Current total: nine wins (11.19 expected wins) – 2.19 wins below expectations
Rounds 18-23: ME (at Geel) – W? (5 pts); BL (at Geel) – W (26); RI (at MCG) – L (21); HA (at MCG) – W? (2); FR (at Geel) – W (46); GC (at Geel) – W (57). 3W, 2 close W?, 1L.

Predicted final record: 14-8, seventh place. (Could range from 12-14 wins.)

Hawthorn (9-7, 114.0% – rating of 54.9)
Current total: 9 wins (11.29 expected wins) – 2.29 wins below expectations
Rounds 18-23: CA (at Eth) – W (37 pts); FR (at Opt) – W? (13); ES (at MCG) – W? (2); GE (at MCG) – L? (2); SK (at Eth) – W (16); SY (at SCG) – L (16). 2W, 1W?, 1 close W?, 1 close L?, 1L.

Predicted final record: 13-9, eighth place. (Could range from 11-14 wins.)

GWS Giants (9-6-1, 111.1%, rating of 60.9)
Current total: 9½ wins (10.81 expected wins) – 1.31 wins below expectations
Rounds 18-23: PA (at AO) – L? (4 pts); SK (at Spot) – W (28); CA (at Eth) – W (41); AD (at Canb) – W? (11); SY (at Spot) – W? (5); ME (at MCG) – L? (11). 2W, 2 close W?, 2 bigger L?

They’re more likely to lose more of the W? than they win of the L? games. And that will cost them a shot at finals.

Predicted final record: 12-9-1, ninth place. (Could range from 11.5 to 15.5 wins.)

North Melbourne (9-7, 114.2% – rating of 51.9)
Current total: nine wins (6.94 expected wins) – 2.06 wins above expectations
Rounds 18-23: CW (at MCG) – L? (12) ; WC (at Taz) – L? (3); BL (at Gab) – L? (2); WB (at Eth) – W (25); AD (at AO) – L? (14); SK (at Eth) – W (17).

2W, 4L?. Seems likely that the team highest above expectations will steal one of those four close Ls, not that it’ll move them into the top eight.

Predicted final record: 12-10, 10th place. (Could range from 11-15 wins.)

Adelaide (8-8, 98.7% – rating of 49.8)
Current total: eight wins (10.19 expected wins) – 2.19 wins below expectations
Rounds 18-23: BL (at Gab) – W? (1 pt); ME (at AO) – L? (1) ; PA (at AO) – L? (3); GW (at Canb) –L? (11); NM (at AO) – W? (14); CA (at Eth) – W (35).

Five weeks of close games: 2 W? and 3L?, with a ‘sure’ W at the end.

Predicted final record: 11-11, 11th place. (Could range from 9-14 wins.)

(AAP Image/David Mariuz)

Essendon (8-8, 97.7% – rating of 55.5)
Current total: eight wins (6.06 expected wins) – 1.94 wins above expectations
Rounds 18-23: FR (at Eth) – W (34 pts) ; SY (at Eth) – L? (3); HA (at MCG) – L? (2); SK (at Eth) – W (20); RI (at MCG) – L (22); PA (at AO) – L? (14).

2W, 1L, 3 close L?. Very likely to steal one of those close games, not that it’ll get them into finals.

Predicted final record: 11-11, 12th place. (Could range from 10 to 13 wins.)

Fremantle (7-9, 83.6% – rating of 27.8)
Current total: seven wins (4.71 expected wins) – 2.29 wins above expectations
Rounds 18-23: ES (at Eth) – L (34 pts); HA (at Opt) – L? (13) ; WC (at Opt) – L (33); CA (at Opt) – W (25); GE (at Geel) – L (46); CW (at Opt) – L (20). 1W, 4L, 1L?

Predicted final record: 8-14, 13th place. (Could range from eight to nine wins.)

Brisbane (4-12, 91.7% – rating of 53.9)
Current total: four wins (2.42 expected wins) – 1.58 wins above expectations
Rounds 18-23: AD (at Gab) – L? (1 pts); GE (at Geel) – L (26); NM (at Gab) – W? (2); CW (at Eth) – L (19); GC (at Metr) – W (27); WC (at Gab) – L? (7). 1W, 1W?, 2L, 2 L?

If they’re tied with the Bulldogs, their percentage will get them past Footscray or anyone else on this side of the ladder.

Predicted final record: 6-16, 14th place. (Could range from five to eight wins.)

Western Bulldogs (5-11, 73.1% – rating of 28.4)
Current total: five wins (4.06 expected wins) – 0.94 wins above expectations
Rounds 18-23: WC (at Opt) – L (45 pts); PA (at Balla) – L (18); SK (at Eth) – L? (7); NM (at Eth) – L (23); CA (at Eth) – W (18); RI (at MCG) – L (51). 1W, 4L, 1L?.

Predicted final record: 6-16, 15th place. (Could range from six to seven wins.)

St Kilda (4-11-1, 77.8% – rating of 39.4)
Current total: 4.5 wins (4.06 expected wins) – 0.44 wins above expectations
Rounds 18-23: RI (at Eth) – L (34 pts) ; GW (at Spot) – L (28); WB (at Eth) – W? (7); ES (at Eth) – L (20); HA (at Eth) – L (16); NM (at Eth) – L (17). 1W?, 5L.

Predicted final record: 5-16-1, 16th place. (Could range from 4.5 to 5.5 wins)

Gold Coast (3-13, 62.2% – rating of 8.0)
Current total: three wins (1.44 expected wins) – 1.56 wins above expectations
Rounds 18-23: SY (at SCG) – L (54 pts) ; CA (at Metr) – W? (9); ME (at MCG) – L (61); RI (at Metr) – L (59); BL (at Metr) – L (27); GE (at Geel) – L (57). 1W?, 5L.

Predicted final record: 4-18, 17th place. (Could range from three to four wins.)

Carlton (1-15, 60.9%, rating of 12.3)
Current total: one win (2.13 expected wins) – 1.13 wins below expectations
Rounds 18-23: HA (at Eth) – L (37 pts); GC (at Metr) – L? (9); GW (at Eth) – L (41); FR (at Opt) – L (25); WB (at Eth) – L (18); AD (at Eth) – L (35). 5L and 1 L?.

Not optimistic about a second win anywhere on the run home for the Blues, let alone a third or fourth to escape last place.

Predicted final record: 1-21, wooden spoon, 18th place. (Could range from one to two wins.)

(Photo by Adam Trafford/AFL Media/Getty Images)

So, the ELO-FF themselves for this week’s games look like this:

Richmond over St Kilda by 26 points.
Collingwood over North Melbourne by 12.
Sydney over Gold Coast by 58.
Essendon over Fremantle by 39.
Brisbane over Adelaide by 10.
Geelong over Melbourne by one
Hawthorn over Carlton by 37.
West Coast over Western Bulldogs by 48.
Port Adelaide over GWS Giants by two (although a results-only system like ours doesn’t take injuries into account – I’d take the Giants by a goal or two).

One more topic we’ve looked at before: the ‘once-around’ schedule in the AFL. By simply ignoring any games where two opponents have played before (there will be five such games for each team in any one season), we can see what a 17-game, ‘once-around’ schedule looks like.

I also monitored a modified version with 18 games, where the one team you face twice is your ‘derby’ partner, such as the Crows and Power, Suns and Lions, Swans and Giants and Eagles and Dockers.

For Victorian clubs, I take the teams that face each other twice, and try to match the most likely ‘rivals’. This season, that’s Carlton and Collingwood, Essendon and Richmond, Geelong and Hawthorn, Melbourne and Saints and the Bulldogs and Kangaroos.

Of course, since these duplications occur at different times in each team’s schedule (the first repeat happened in Round 13), right now the clubs haven’t all faced the same number of ‘original’ opponents.

But here’s what those two standings look like after Round 17, including how many games remain for each team against new opponents (or their derby partner) –

Current ladder AFL 2018

Team Wins Losses Draws
Tigers 11 4 0
Power 11 4 0
Eagles 11 4 0
Swans 9 4 0
Magpies 9 5 0
Demons 9 5 0
Hawks 9 6 0
Giants 8 5 1
Kangaroos 8 6 0
Cats 8 7 0
Crows 8 7 0
Bombers 8 7 0
Dockers 6 9 0
Bulldogs 5 10 0
Saints 3 11 1
Lions 3 11 0
Suns 3 12 0
Blues 1 14 0

(Photo by Michael Dodge/Getty Images)

Modified 18-game ladder

Team Wins Losses Draws Games remaining
Tigers 11 4 0 3
Power 11 4 0 3
Eagles 11 4 0 3
Swans 9 4 0 5
Magpies 10 5 0 3
Demons 9 6 0 3
Hawks 9 6 0 3
Giants 8 5 1 4
Kangaroos 8 6 0 4
Cats 8 7 0 3
Crows 8 7 0 3
Bombers 8 7 0 3
Dockers 6 9 0 3
Bulldogs 5 10 0 3
Saints 4 11 1 2
Lions 3 11 0 4
Suns 3 12 0 3
Blues 1 15 0 2

Last season, the results turned out somewhat differently than the Adelaide minor premier/Richmond championship scenario that we remember in the 22-round schedule world.

GWS had the best once-around record last year, at 12-3-2 (the equivalent of 13-4), with Geelong and Adelaide behind them at 11-6.

Richmond led the pack of teams at 10-7, which included West Coast, Sydney, Melbourne and Port Adelaide as finalists.

Ironically, using games actually played (either the match at the actual home ground or the second such game, if the first had already been used), the hypothetical finals series ended with number six seed Sydney defeating number four Richmond, using their Round 13 victory at the MCG, 80-71.

Even more ironically, the 2016 ‘once-around’ season placed the eventual ‘real’ champion Western Bulldogs into the top four, but it was Geelong who captured the title from the lower four slots.

The Crowd Says:

2018-07-18T02:56:13+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


The thing worth taking into account is the role of injury. GWS is getting some top players back. Greene last week, Deledio next and Cameron. This releases others to be more creative. Meanwhile, Richmond plays without a couple of injured tackle merchants and they lose. 50/50 games mean they they have an even chance of winning (not a dominant chance of losing). Injury...or return from injury...sways the form to beyond 50/50. Don't be deceived by results so far or journos. Ask yourself who looks like improving. Who is coming back? Who is not available? The injury list is the most reliable form guide. Most importantly, consider the impact a returning player (or players) has on freeing up another star to wreak havoc. Example? When Fyfe comes back, Neale is freer to create. With Deledio around it is harder to shut down Shaw's run because they now have 2 to work on and their own forwards can't be as creative...they need greater accountability.

2018-07-18T01:33:32+00:00

peter chrisp

Guest


Don although it's 6 weeks to go my question is will The Tigers remain in the top 4 they should have no problems? Their run home looks winnable should remain top 2? I can't predict the top 4 the way i look at it GWS & Melbourne would have to finnish in the top 4, your thoughts and ideas is to have GWS & Melbourne above West Coast & Richmond on the ladder? Must admit would like to see that now i am a Pies fan we are definitely on the edge, after this weeks game coming up we play Richmond next week, and the week after will see The Tigers play The Cats, and if Tigers win both, can't see GWS & Melbourne above them on the ladder? Not jumping ahead the last round of the year will see Melbourne vs GWS

2018-07-17T22:58:34+00:00

Sachit Dassanayake

Roar Rookie


Melbourne also has Geelong away, Adelaide away, Gold Coast, Sydney, West Coast away and GWS. I see them winning against Gold Coast, but the rest are honestly 50/50 or worse. GWS meanwhile has Port away, St Kilda, Carlton away, Adelaide, Sydney and Melbourne away. I can see them winning against St Kilda and Carlton, and probably Adelaide too, but the others are also 50/50's. I don't think Freo is going to win against Essendon, West Coast, Geelong and Collingwood. They might win against Hawthorn. Even if they did win all 6, I don't think 13/9 will be enough, considering Freo's terrible percentage. Sorry Don, I don't see it happening. Richmond will most likely be in the Grand Final, due to it's dominance in Melbourne. The competitor? Who knows really.

2018-07-17T22:36:16+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Perhaps Joffa could tag along...with an orange coat.

2018-07-17T22:02:10+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Somehow a GWS - Demons GF doesn't excite me the slightest Don. Don't know why, perhaps not enough glamour.

2018-07-17T14:00:42+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Not sure what you are asking. I think WC is better than Richmond but, by the end of the year, GWS and Melbourne will have gone past them. I think Freo, with all these kids with games under their belts and with Sandi, Fyfe, Brayshaw, Ballas and Taberner back (shame about Blakely), are as good as them all.

2018-07-17T12:53:15+00:00

peter chrisp

Guest


With Don's "hopefull" prediction, Don with Richmond & West Coast do you give them a chance seems as though a no?

2018-07-17T12:49:04+00:00

peter chrisp

Guest


Pope & Roger the last game of the season where all sides go for broke Melbourne & GWS should be one hell of a game? & this weekend too, 2 killer games Cats & Melbourne Port & GWS would also like to see Brisbane knock off Adelaide @ home

2018-07-17T11:39:18+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


No. I think GWS will be very strong as players return and Melbourne is really gaining momentum.

2018-07-17T09:56:50+00:00

Sachit Dassanayake

Roar Rookie


You're joking, right? Right?

2018-07-17T09:49:22+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


It will be a GWS/Melbourne GF. With Freo already 7/9, to predict only one win from the next 6 is a bit Eastern states and cliched. With some stars to return to Freo, Essendon, Hawthorn, WC, Geelong and The Pies can count on one less win than you have ascribed them. That would make Freo finish 13/9. Watch out GWS and Melbourne!

2018-07-17T07:07:11+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


People need to stop comparing Carlton and the Lions Lions have been bad for a lot longer, exist in an interstate market and had the AFL stitch up a deal to pinch one of the best brains and one of the best list managers and the best captain of the last 20 years to all come salvage a key market where both clubs have been terrible since years started with 201 Carlton have received no special treatment at all but unlike Lions won't expect any.

2018-07-17T05:45:59+00:00

Lroy

Guest


Last game of the year will be a tricky one at the Gabba for the Eagles... could be the difference between a top two or top 4 spot for them...so I cant see that they will be taking it easy. Expect a red hot contest, hopefully a dry deck and the fans should see a quality game of footy. Pity Im no longer living in Brisbane. The annual Eagles game at the Gabba was my most anticipated social / sporting event of the year.. Plenty of Sandgropers in SE QLD including a couple I went to primary school with (small world eh?) so should be a good crowd.

2018-07-17T04:10:19+00:00

User

Roar Rookie


is an interesting game, do wce go into preservation mode or with a bye the next week go all guns blazing. Have no doubt fgan will be doing best to keep them focussed on a scalp before mad Monday but....not going to happen, stakes are to high for wce and if a win is difference between a top 2 finish the foot will be firmly on Brisbane's throat early and ruthlessly.

2018-07-17T03:57:14+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Guest


Awesome. NM have to do both ColliewobbIes and WC now.

2018-07-17T03:43:29+00:00

Roger of Sydney

Guest


Dear Pope, Consider it done, I will make the call. GWS are a far better team than Port and probably Melbourne, cant promise the Swans will beat them but there wont be much in it

2018-07-17T03:41:50+00:00

Kangas

Roar Rookie


North will miss the 8. But they have a really good platform to build towards finals from 2019 .

2018-07-17T02:03:02+00:00

DingoGray

Roar Guru


GWS for me have capacity of matching it with anyone. They could do a bulldogs and go all the way with a good three months

2018-07-17T01:26:28+00:00

Doran Smith

Roar Guru


Agree, GWS could win nearly all of the remaining games.

2018-07-17T01:23:23+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Guest


Hey Rog. As a North supporter I'm still getting over last round. If GWS could knock over Port and Melbourne for both of us, and your mob can knock over them, that'd be great.

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