Deciding between Kelly, Cripps and Oliver

By Sam Staunton / Roar Rookie

Ask the football community who have been the best three midfielders in the competition over the last three seasons, and many would agree on three names: Patrick Dangerfield, Dustin Martin and Nat Fyfe.

All three are in the prime of their careers, aged 28, 27 and 26 respectively. The superstar trio has each won one of the past three Brownlow medals.

But there are three ready-made replacements for the podium once these three move into the back ends of their careers.

Josh Kelly, Patrick Cripps and Clayton Oliver.

Kelly, aged 23, may not be as much of a contested ball beast, but he is perhaps already the epitome of class and skill among the AFL’s best midfielders.

His performance against Carlton in Round 20 took the AFL world by storm, and it could well go down as the best individual performance in the 2018 season.

Kelly, however, won’t have the Brownlow medal hanging around his neck this September after missing large parts of the year through injury.

Patrick Cripps just might though.

Without Cripps, the AFL’s worst team would be even more of a disaster than what it already has been this year. The 23-year-old contested bull has almost single-handedly carried Carlton’s midfield this year.

His ability to win the ball and burst out of packs makes him nearly untouchable. Almost no one else in football matches his brute force at the contest.

(Photo by Adam Trafford/AFL Media/Getty Images)

Clayton Oliver, however, is arguably right on par with Cripps. And he’s more than two years younger than both Cripps and Josh Kelly.

Oliver’s last month of football has been a level above his already lofty standards, but his entire 2018 campaign has seen him establish himself as a Brownlow smokey as well.

Fyfe, Danger and Dusty have been the three best for the past few years. Most of us are happy to agree on that. And most of us will agree that Kelly, Cripps and Oliver are next in line. Some say they already are the best.

But who’s number one out of the three? That’s where it becomes such a fun debate.

Say you had the chance to pick one of the three to join your team. Who would you take?

You might say Kelly, but would Cripps be even more dominant in a better team, with more help around him?

And you could definitely argue that while Oliver is a superstar, Cripps and Kelly are slightly ahead of him. But would you take Oliver based on the fact that he’s a lot younger?

Does Oliver have it slightly easier than the others with the AFL’s best ruckman feeding it down his throat at every stoppage?

It’s almost an impossible decision to make. But if I had the chance to pick one to join my team, I’d take the GWS Giant.

Midfield beasts with the ball-winning ability of Cripps and Oliver are extremely hard to come by. But a player with the skilfulness and poise of Josh Kelly are once-in-a-generation type players.

All three players boast a stunning individual performance in 2018.

Josh Kelly’s utter demolition of the miserable Blues, where he collected 41 disposals, delivered the ball inside 50 16 times, and had ten clearances.

Patrick Cripps couldn’t have done anything more against Collingwood in Round 14, accumulating 29 disposals, laying nine tackles, and booting three majors.

Oliver’s 35 disposals, two goals, and seven tackles against Fremantle in Round 16 was spectacular.

(AAP Image/Tony McDonough)

Yet Kelly’s was the best, irrespective of their opponent.

Josh Kelly can play inside, outside, can kick goals and is the Rolls Royce of the AFL. And at this point, I would take him over Cripps and Oliver.

Could that decision change in two years? Absolutely.

Who knows what Clayton Oliver’s potential is if he’s already this good at 21.

Could Patrick Cripps reach even greater heights once Carlton’s young team begins to improve?

Exciting times lie ahead for the three best young midfielders in the AFL. I have no doubt the next eight years will be filled with Josh Kelly, Patrick Cripps and Clayton Oliver Brownlow medals.

Who would you take if you had to choose one?

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2018-08-10T11:54:51+00:00

Sam Staunton

Roar Rookie


Are you talking about Tommy? Cause in my opinion he’s been by far the best midfielder this year. But I was just focusing on the next crop of stars who are yet to hit their prime age.

2018-08-10T10:06:23+00:00

Birdman

Roar Rookie


the guy who will win the midfielder's medal for the best and fairest AFL footballer.. oh yeah not in the conversation apparently - sheesh!

2018-08-10T07:04:26+00:00

Raimond

Roar Guru


The gigantic disparity in talent that surrounds Cripps and Kelly makes it hard to even compare them.

2018-08-10T06:18:06+00:00

Justif01

Guest


I wonder how realistic it would be for the Giants to keep Josh Kelly long term. Deledio, Shaw and Griffen will be all gone by the end of next year so there will be some coin available. Maybe even trade Jon Patton perhaps. Kelly would be better long term investment for GWS I would imagine.

AUTHOR

2018-08-10T05:53:13+00:00

Sam Staunton

Roar Rookie


Yep, that's my order also

AUTHOR

2018-08-10T05:52:07+00:00

Sam Staunton

Roar Rookie


I personally think Kelly could've won it this year had've he played a full season

2018-08-10T05:01:22+00:00

DingoGray

Roar Guru


Josh Kelly smooth mover who if he tidies up the shots on goal he be nearly the complete package. Cripps grunt work is outstanding. He's not far beyond Kelly. But for me and this purely a personal point of view and more a visual thing, for me Kelly just looks like he travelling at different speed. He never seems rushed. Rarely seems to get caught with the ball. That's not to say the others aren't good players. But for me I would be going Kelly 1st, Cripps 2nd & Oliver 3rd (Oliver attitude for me puts him slightly behind the others- again personal trait preference. )

2018-08-10T04:23:01+00:00

Macca

Guest


I am not sure we can put Bontempelli in the comparison because of the position he plays, the bulldogs seem to use him much more as a forward (he averages a goal a game in his career along with 0.8 behinds) but he has only once averaged above 23 possessions (24.1), where only in Cripps second year (not counting the 3 games he played in his first) has he averaged below 24 (23.6). I would love for Bontempelli to chase more midfield time and request a trade to the blues at years end (the chances of that happening are very remote) but I can't help but feel he is being wasted slightly at the bulldogs.

2018-08-10T04:21:55+00:00

dontknowmuchaboutfootball

Guest


Kelly in a heartbeat, given that we've already got Fyfe (and Neale).

2018-08-10T04:14:29+00:00

Brian

Guest


Was thinking of Bont and how we get caught up in short term thinking, labelling guys champions after 1 year. Nothing againt Bont who could come back and be better then Cripps and Oliver next year. I think Kelly another standard above those other 3. I'd say Ablett and Judd are the best 2 mids since the turn of the century. In terms of thoss benchmarks Fyfe and Kelly are the most likely to join those 2 by the end of their careers.

2018-08-10T04:13:06+00:00

Gr8rWeStr

Guest


I think our recruiters got it right with Kelly, absolutely no thought of swapping him for either of the others, including Bont. His disposal by foot is in another class, meaning his metres gained stats leave the others far behind. The other probably do more of the inside grunt work, but Kelly can do that as well when needed. Actually winning a Brownlow is dependent on many factors, including the quality of the other players in your team who complete with you for votes each weak, so its not assured, but his silky skills are eye catching so there's a real chance he will.

2018-08-10T02:49:09+00:00

Piet Mondrian

Roar Rookie


Looking to their future, I can only see Cripps reaching the statues of Dusty, Danger and Fyfe winning a Brownlow, Oliver and Kelly are good but Cripps Brownlow is ultimately inevitable.

2018-08-10T01:18:42+00:00

Macca

Guest


Statisticall Cripps and Oliver are very similar and the discrepancy between things like kick (Cripps slightly in front ) Handballs (Oliver slightly in front) contested possession (Cripps slightly in front) and uncontested possession (Oilver slightly in front) don't really suggest Oilver is well ahead of Cripps on the "outside" The one thing that would support it is metres gained where Oliver is well in front (379 to 255). The area Cripps does seem to have Oliver well covered is marking (4.3 to 3.7 ) and contested marks especially (0.3 to 1.4). The one thing I would say is that Oliver has much more support in the mid field than Cripps does, it will be interesting to see if Cripps can find yet another gear and starts to get more uncontested "outside" possession as he gets more support around him

AUTHOR

2018-08-10T01:16:09+00:00

Sam Staunton

Roar Rookie


Agree that Kelly is the best, but don't think Cripps and Oliver are that far behind

AUTHOR

2018-08-10T01:15:12+00:00

Sam Staunton

Roar Rookie


Bont is miles behind unfortunately.

2018-08-10T00:47:47+00:00

Macdaddy

Guest


Bont has them all covered...

2018-08-10T00:46:07+00:00

AB

Guest


I think its fairly clear, Josh Kelly is the best player in the AFL. He’s a fair way ahead of Cripps and Oliver, and I think he’s already surpassed the other three you mention (Dangerfield, Fyfe and Martin). A fully fit Fyfe may be he’s only competition. That’s nothing against Cripps and Oliver, they are both superstars, I just think Kelly is in a league of his own.

AUTHOR

2018-08-09T22:04:10+00:00

Sam Staunton

Roar Rookie


You're exactly right, and it was pretty much a toss of the coin for me between Kelly and Cripps. And i'd quite probably choose Cripps if he played for GWS or a team of similar calibre.

2018-08-09T21:56:57+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Cripps is a beauty inside but Oliver is everything inside and outside. Oliver, Cripps, Kelly.

2018-08-09T21:47:07+00:00

Col from Brissie

Roar Guru


Al three are stars but because I watch all the Carlton games and only a few GWS/Melbourne games and am completely biased it's Cripps every day of the week. As you say how good could he be in a better side surrounded by the midfields that Oliver and Kelly are.

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