The NRL draw? Meh. Let’s talk coaching winners and losers

By AJ Mithen / Expert

Oh, how we were ready to rant.

NRL draw announcement time is a usually a gold mine of angst, injustice, the Broncos riding a weekly channel 9 Friday night game into the top eight and the Roosters getting a free uber ride to the grand final.

But when the draw came out yesterday I’ll have to admit it was actually pretty good. There’s decent rest between games for teams, a fair mix of top eight and bottom eight matchups based on 2018’s finishing order and challenging matches across the board.

I looked as hard as I could and couldn’t unearth a Roosters conspiracy, either. It’s even tougher to argue about the amount of free to air tv time slots they got because they’re the premiers.

There’s a couple of things which stood out, the first being ‘Magic round’ in Brisbane which will happen in round nine from Friday, May 10 to Sunday, May 12.

Magic round has been scheduled far enough into the year that teams will have shaken off the ring rust, and far enough away from the first State of Origin game on June 5 to avoid a swathe of one-week injuries affecting team selections. (I’m curious to see how the crowd figures for magic round get reported, too)

The second thing to note was the lack of agro in the reactions when the draw landed. Everyone was ready to launch into the badness of it all but apart from some ashen-faced Brisbane fans digesting their first month (Storm, Cowboys, Dragons Roosters), fans seemed to come out happy enough with their lot.

I’m struggling to remember a more reasonable response to the NRL draw, to be honest. The NRL have done this so well we’ve seen some of the best fan ‘stretch complaints’ we’ve seen for a while.

There were your standard complaints around locations, times, and such, but try as they may, the NRL can’t fit each individual supporter’s schedule. They need to work on that.

So reasonable was the draw that the standout complaint came about the length of the document itself.

If this is the best complaint out there, then maybe we have to give due credit to the league for putting a good thing together, start putting in leave requests at work and home and move on to the next thing.

And what a thing it is – a quarter of the league have new head coaches and one team now has two.

Some of rugby league’s worst kept secrets were confirmed when announcements started to filter through that Ivan Cleary was indeed heading to Penrith, replaced at Wests Tigers by 2014 premiership coach Michael Maguire and that Souths and Brisbane were in effect swapping Anthony Seibold and Wayne Bennett.

As an added bonus we even saw Des Hasler signed back to Manly, placing the club in a unique position of having two head coaches on the books.

Des Hasler? Really? If I’m a Sea Eagles fan I guess I’d be happy? He hasn’t been out of the game too long, but I’d really hope his contract says any potential signings will be vetted and handled by the finance team.

(Photo by Brendon Thorne/Getty Images)

Who wins out of all this? It’s hard to tell. Trent Barrett certainly doesn’t. The instant his lawyers can come to an agreement with Manly he’s out as an NRL coach and if they can’t get him paid out, he’s stuck there until July. It’s a uniquely awkward and pathetically managed situation for Manly.

Hasler’s return is bad news for rugby league journalists, now setting their alarms for the inevitable 7am press conferences.

The journo out there who decided to publish the massive story that David Furner was flipping on a contract with Leeds Rhinos to take the head role at South Sydney certainly doesn’t win.

Souths announced Bennett is joining in 2020, but it’s not going to be a surprise if Siebold and Bennett switch one year earlier.

Panthers caretaker Cameron Ciraldo doesn’t win, but I guess he’s had enough time to think about what he wants to do.

Wests Tigers can rightfully be peeved with Ivan Cleary, but they’ve brought in a guy with a better record (56 per cent winning and a premiership against 48 per cent winning).

Ivan Cleary may think he’s won because he gets to coach his son Nathan, but he’s also now back handcuffed to the whims of Phil Gould, who could literally do anything if he’s not satisfied with how things are going.

Of all the changes, Cleary is under the most pressure to deliver. He’ll front up to a hot squad and a well-backed club. There’s no rebuilding to be done, it’s all about winning and Cleary still has some convincing to do in that field.

(Photo: Matt King/Getty Images)

Anthony Seibold wins, sure. But do the Broncos? Seibold is highly regarded and showed with his work pushing the Bunnies back into title contention he’s got the nous. He’ll need to have the same instant impact up north or he’ll be on the hot seat right away.

Brisbane win – they get a quality coach in at a much cheaper clip than Craig Bellamy would have cost and they finally get to push Wayne Bennett out of the plane like they’ve been trying to do all year.

Rabbitohs General Manager of football Shane Richardson politely made it clear he wasn’t thrilled with how Siebold handled things, but like Penrith’s play for Cleary and Barrett’s situation at Manly, that’s life these days in the NRL.

Then there’s Wayne Bennett. Wayne always wins. I’m an unabashed fan of his coaching even though thousands aren’t. When Wayne wins, maybe Souths win too because good players tend to follow him around.

It’s hard to believe we’re still months away from round one and there’s all this excitement going on.

What’s next? Who knows. But I can’t wait to find out.

The Crowd Says:

2018-10-29T13:52:48+00:00

GeorgeO

Roar Rookie


"It takes more than one season for a team and a coach to work it out" Roosters won in 2013 with rookie coach

2018-10-28T23:10:13+00:00

steveng

Roar Rookie


Yes, I'm sort of happy but, for me, Bennett's contract is too short, 2 years is a nothing contract in the NRL as a coach to do anything unless, he's got all the right players and he gets instant successes from his existing players, which, the Bunnies don't have and they are very vulnerable in certain positions. The the sooner we get rid of Seibold the better it will be for all, he's like dead wood being at the Bunnies, we pride ourselves on loyalty and full commitment which Seibold has shown nothing off!!! All the Bunnies fans really want is a good window into the future and this 'musical coaching chairs' is not good and/or stable enough for our club and/or players future, not that these things are a strong point in the NRL 2018 and beyond!

2018-10-27T01:21:41+00:00

ScottWoodward.me

Roar Guru


Hi 40, Cleary has a big start with cattle. Panthers are 12.00 and the Wests Tigers are rated 33.00, but dont let facts get in the way................

2018-10-26T10:49:53+00:00

RM

Guest


Love Bennett and forever thankful for everything he has done for the Broncos - but not at all unhappy to see him depart for Souths. Think back to 2015 when Bennett returned to Brisbane. For a lot of the year, most of the talk was about how the Broncos had a great young list with a few quality experienced players. Plenty of talent but some question marks over the halves. Maybe a year or two off really challenging for the Premiership. Bennett was able to take them all the way to the decider and one tackle away from winning the bloody thing. And then...stagnation. Still making finals, still having better years than most clubs, but not looking any more likely to break the Premiership drought. At the end of 2018 the talk about the Broncos is they have a great young list with a few quality experienced players. Plenty of talent but some question marks over the halves. Maybe a year or two off really challenging for the Premiership...in other words - haven't moved forwards at all in the 4 seasons Bennett has been back in charge. That said, I hope he stays for 2019 and he and Siebold do the swap in 2020. He deserves a final year to hopefully win a final Premiership with the Broncos.

2018-10-26T09:50:50+00:00

John

Guest


That'd be an insult to Trump, and that's saying something.

2018-10-26T06:10:23+00:00

Edward Lewis

Guest


Broncos a better pack than Souths? It's a bold claim.

2018-10-26T05:49:37+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


Good article AJ. Agreed, the draw is quite a good one. I had a peek and very little evidence of the "playing same team n the same month" issues of last year. Coaching dramas of compelling interest, I think Souths have done well and a surprise packet. Maybe forcing Broncos hand before they are ready? Pressure definitely on Cleary and/or Gould.

AUTHOR

2018-10-26T05:47:57+00:00

AJ Mithen

Expert


Jason Demetriou is also probably wondering what the hell just happened...

2018-10-26T05:34:50+00:00

db

Guest


Phil Gould, the Donald Trump of the NRL.

2018-10-26T05:07:32+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


Ivan Cleary is a complete m0r0n. Because really, only a m0r0n would go back to a job where he was fired from...when the person who hired him again is STILL GOING TO BE HIS BOSS! And that's before we even get into a discussion on the phenomenal ego of Phil Gould...

2018-10-26T05:06:05+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Kevvy Walters must be spewing and wondering what he needs to do to get a gig. Paul McGregor’s probably loving it all...

2018-10-26T03:09:29+00:00

Worlds Biggest

Roar Pro


Thanks AJ, has to be the most crazy off season for coach movements in a long, long time. Its a little earlier to proclaim winners and losers in all this. Each Coach has strengths and weaknesses. As a Souths fan, I say welcome Wayne. Siebold has been on the way out for a couple of months it seems.

2018-10-26T02:40:26+00:00

Moth

Roar Rookie


I'd say The Tigers / McGuire have a lot to lose as well. Madge has a roster he can't do much with for the next two to three years thanks to Cleary's horrible recruitment. If he does well then he'll probably walk for a better paying gig which means the Tigers are forced to get another coach and if he doesn't then chances are we are stuck with him. Say what you like about Gus but he's played us like a fiddle. If we were smart, we would have hung on to Cleary for 2019 and had a coach come in fresh for 2020. It's not like we're making the top 4 next year.

2018-10-26T02:34:27+00:00

Moth

Roar Rookie


Canberra say hi.

2018-10-26T02:01:41+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


6 teams all thinking their grand final bound is the "reality", at least for a lot of their fans

AUTHOR

2018-10-26T01:37:55+00:00

AJ Mithen

Expert


Sure Paul, expectations shouldn't be high - but what's the reality going to be?

2018-10-26T01:11:00+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


AJ, The difficulty for all the guys is the same as any new coach has - getting the players to do things they way the coaches want, getting used to new training regimes, perhaps different combinations, etc. In other words, your article focuses on the positives, with the exception of the pressure on Ivan Cleary, but it's entirely possible all could have poor seasons if players struggle with the new coach. Fans of Manly, the Tigers, Souths, Broncos and the Panthers will expect great things, now they've got the "right" coach in place. I'm guessing only two of these sides make the finals in 2019 and those two don't get past the preliminary finals. It takes more than one season for a team and a coach to work it out, so expectations should not be high for these coaches.

2018-10-26T00:30:36+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


Shouldn't really be an issue, most of the squad's core is locked up already. I remember there was a lot of talk that half the roster would follow Hook when he left but that didn't eventuate

2018-10-26T00:29:10+00:00

Jacko

Guest


I think that the NRL should sign 16 coaches and just rotate them to the clubs on a year to year basis with the odd mid year change over just to keep things in the press....

2018-10-26T00:24:04+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


Not unexpected, he was only at the Broncos so he could play under Bennett

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