Can Chiefs get the best out of Rebels reject?

By Will Knight / Expert

Australian rugby is in danger of looking a bit Mickey Mouse if a talented playmaker blossoms under the tutelage of Kiwi coaches this season.

Jack Debreczeni’s second Super Rugby stint at the Melbourne Rebels ended last season when he couldn’t hold onto the five-eighth jersey – with Reece Hodge preferred – and at the age of just 25 his future in Australian rugby looked bleak.

With Quade Cooper Melbourne-bound and no deal done with any other Australian team, Auckland-born Debreczeni signed a two-year contract with Northland to play in the Mitre 10 Cup in New Zealand.

He impressed enough to earn a Super Rugby gig with the Chiefs for this season, and will tonight start at No.10 in their pre-season trial against the Queensland Reds at Ballymore.

Damien McKenzie is the Chiefs’ main man at five-eighth, but given his versatility – as well as Debreczeni’s classy touches for Northland last season that led to Chiefs coach Colin Cooper offering him a contract – it’s not out of the question that the Rebels reject could get more than a few starts at No.10.

Due to the NZRU policy in which All Blacks in a World Cup year are rested for at least two games, the door will certainly be open at some stage.

Given the power of Steve Hansen in a World Cup year, the All Blacks coach may even want to see McKenzie spending a bit of time at fullback as well.

It will be particularly intriguing for Aussie rugby fans to monitor Debreczeni if he does get a decent chunk of game time for the Chiefs as his development was stifled in Australia.

A tall, gifted goal-kicking playmaker with Wallabies potential not many years ago, he hasn’t pushed on.

And of course that happens to many players, and the reasons for their progression stagnating, falling or not moving forward fast enough are varied.

There are many factors that go into making a high-performing rugby professional. Sports science is highly influential and that knowledge usually spreads quickly, but thankfully there’s still no cookie cutter for producing a top-line rugby player.

However, it’s worth noting that Sydney-born Michael Alaalatoa wasn’t picked up by any Australian teams and the young prop has been a strong performer for the Crusaders for three seasons.

And only last season after two solid years at the Waratahs and admittedly after quite a few injuries to fellow New Zealand props, Angus Ta’avao made his All Blacks debut at the age of 28.

Debreczeni was on the so-called pathways program. A stand-out at Trinity Grammar in Sydney, the No.10 was picked for the Australian Schoolboys in 2011.

His silky skills were identified early and after a strong 15-game season at the Rebels in 2015, he was hailed as a future Wallabies five-eighth.

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However after an underwhelming 2017 in Melbourne and perhaps because of the axe hanging over the Rebels, Debreczeni headed for the Japanese Top league with the Honda Heat.

His Rebels return last season started brightly enough but petered out, and he moved on.

There’s been a sharp focus on Australia’s coaches recently, most notably Steve Hansen’s “Mickey Mouse coaching the Wallabies” crack at Michael Cheika, Stephen Larkham’s sacking as Wallabies assistant coach and Brad Thorn’s firm no-excuses approach at the Reds.

And it would be folly to think that Kiwi coaches alone can fix Australian rugby.

Daryl Gibson’s record at the Waratahs is underwhelming. Thorn should be judged after a few more years in Brisbane. Robbie Deans was sacked with a 58.1 per cent winning record as Wallabies coach (although that would be cherished at the moment).

Perhaps it was just being immersed in New Zealand’s provincial rugby system that sparked Debreczeni in what he called “the most competitive environment for rugby players in the world”.

Maybe Debreczeni thrived in the NPC simply because he was behind a formidable Northland pack, and you’d expect most talented five-eighths to flourish that way.

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If he gets some good minutes at the Chiefs, he’ll likely be on the front foot given their strong forwards led by Brodie Retallick, Sam Cane and Nathan Harris.

If Debreczeni does stay on an upward trajectory in New Zealand, it will be a solid slap in the face for Australian rugby.

In recent years, the system has failed to get the best out of Will Skelton and Taqele Naiyaravoro, while Sean McMahon and Nic White are two examples of others that got away early.

However, in this case, Debreczeni wasn’t chasing the big bucks in Europe or Japan.

The development of Debreczeni – the Rebels reject – will be intriguing to watch this Super Rugby season.

The Crowd Says:

2019-02-14T04:13:06+00:00

Danny McGowan

Roar Rookie


Yep Jacko, but Marty out for I don't know how long!

2019-02-11T19:44:48+00:00

Ben

Guest


Parsons has never played for Northland. He plays for Nth Harbour.

2019-02-11T16:48:01+00:00

jack

Roar Rookie


no doubt they will. NZ rugby is about nurturing the mindset and building their internal strength, something that Debreczeni needs . He will flourish with them (imho)

2019-02-11T12:59:53+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


You also said he disappeared and then turned up in NZ last year, which is the whole point I objected to. If playing M10 Cup level is considered “reappearing”, then he hardly disappeared. He was playing a higher level the entire time. Only thing he missed was the 2017 NRC. He never disappeared. Was regularly starting Super Rugby the whole time.

2019-02-11T12:29:15+00:00

Colvin Brown

Roar Guru


No, I said he could become a valued player for the Chiefs. I did not mention Cheika.

2019-02-11T07:14:47+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


I agree. It was a bit of a strange situation. But we don’t know what went on behind closed doors I guess, and I guess we probably won’t ever know...

2019-02-11T07:10:52+00:00

Jacko

Guest


The odd thing about it was that all the controversy seemed to have been sorted out and after a lot of media carry-on it looked to have all settled down and become history.....then he resigned very unexpectedly after the great showing in Brisbane....Sad he left as he was 500% better than cheika will ever be

2019-02-11T07:03:30+00:00

Jacko

Guest


Danny ....Marty mcKenzie plays 10 and the Chiefs have signed Donald ( Beaver) as Falcon replacement

2019-02-10T22:23:59+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


But turning up in Mitre 10 Cup made him a potential contender again? In fairness in Cheika's mind it probably did. He wants anything that he can't have.

2019-02-10T18:49:12+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


Even then, I think the most competent leaders find a way to use their deputies, and listen to their advice even if they eventually ignore it, rather than simply dictating to them...

2019-02-10T12:21:08+00:00

Colvin Brown

Roar Guru


I was referring to how he disappeared as a potential contender.

2019-02-10T11:30:15+00:00

BeastieBoy

Roar Rookie


He is the biggest 5/8 I can remember. Besides your own attitude, to fire up you need good coaching and team support.. If it doesn't work where you are, then move on. Which is what he has done. Good Luck. This article is right. It will be real interesting to see the difference it makes with NZ coaching and Team environment.

2019-02-10T08:35:36+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Good to see that Jake MacIntyre is getting some good game time. Clemont is a step-up from Agen so wish him well. Apart from thrown in the deep end very early, poor Jake also had Nick Frisby or James Tuttle throwing slow "harbour bridge" passes to him, so everything had to be rushed. For a new player into SR it was almost a death wish. Even Quade Cooper in the SR2017 Reds struggled behind those two halfbacks.

2019-02-10T07:55:27+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Well an odd thing to say that a player who started most super rugby games in both 2017 and 2018 disappeared... He was right there if you looked.

2019-02-10T07:25:38+00:00

Colvin Brown

Roar Guru


Charming.

2019-02-10T05:27:43+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Link seemed to work collaboratively with assistants. Cheika appears more inclined to just dictate. Great if he’s right. Dire if he’s not.

2019-02-10T05:01:01+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


The thing is: - Cheika has more of a history of chopping and changing the team, and seems to do it randomly rather than with the strategic view Link has (whether or not it always worked); - Link’s chopping and changing of tactics resulted in far better winning percentages against most tier 1 teams, and even made us competitive in most losses; - Link’s staff were almost certainly more effective than Cheika’s when you look in how he had a large role in hiring of all assistants. Especially when Cheika did things like hired Grey full time after his last season with the Waratahs. It is pretty difficult to see the logic behind what In Brief is saying, and I’m really doing my best to try and work it out, as he/she could be onto something. But I’m yet to see it.

2019-02-10T02:26:11+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


And things like 7 consecutive wins against T1 nation’s...

2019-02-10T02:06:38+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


Fair play, Jacko. I guess I was more referring to RA not 100% backing Link from the outset. If they’d punished the players more and backed Link more then who knows what would have happened.

2019-02-10T02:05:43+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


Yeah, and the keep the same tactics strategy has worked great for Cheika... I’d hate to go back to the way we were under Link. Competitive in virtually every match, and only losing to the top two teams consistently.

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