Get Israel Folau and Alan Joyce across the table

That's a completely separate argument

Ruckin Oaf, Thanks for that advice - the webpage for relevant code of conduct is below. There is no date on it - something of a colossal and major oversight, but we can assume the 24 pages were not drawn up in the last month. There is an introduction by Raelene Castle so its written between her appointment and now. https://www.rugbyau.com/about/codes-and-policies/integrity/code-of-conduct You have to click on the link. It seems to me the relevant parts are page 6, 1.3 , 1.6 and 1.8. Frankly, its debatable whether Folau did breach it. If it was a simple matter then the hearing would not have taken as long as it did and would have been over in a day. What he posted was not bullying and harrassment. it's the bit about maing his employer look bad that is the most likely problem area. I don't know why Raelene Castle is now talking about a social media clause now because 1.7 is exactly that. Michael

no guarantee they will. They sponsor a lot of other sporting sides. It would also demonstrate to Joyce that RA can get sponsorship from the same mob Qantas is aligned with

Stuff the pink dollar!. When Foxtel dishes Rugby in Oz, wonder how long Qantas will remain a sponsor??

Hey Skeek, I can't really see how your voting, sporting or gastronomic preferences in any way shape or form could possibly equate with your sexuality. I voted Liberal last federal election, probably won't this one, might do next one. Don't watch much league but will always tune in for origin, and I'm happy with either BBQ or tomato sauce thanks. My sexual preferences however, well they've been the same since puberty and will remain so until the day I die I reckon. We can’t stop every hurtful word or phrase being uttered.... And ? We can't stop every crime either, would that be a good reason to disband the police force ? Doctors can't save every life - maybe we should stop funding hospitals. There might be some good arguments out there to support homophobia and those who make homophobic comments - but so far I'm yet to see em and this latest effort sure ain't it.

God never changes - how many wives and concubines do we get then ?

How about the walking marriages - they ok ?

Or it's called managing what you can control.

It's called hypocrisy TWAS.

Well said RO. Nice work playing the ball and not the man.

And if you listen to any number of people, you're wrong if you vote coalition, or like rugby league, or don't have sauce on your egg & bacon roll, or whatever. We should stop confusing hurtful comments considered by some, with hate speech. If you want to stop hurtful comments, then stop speech fullstop. Some people are uber-sensitive, about anything, & perhaps it says more about them than anything that is actually said. We can't stop every hurtful word or phrase being uttered, unless we become a totalitarian society, & are forced to to toe the party line. Is that what people want, a totalitarian state?

what homophobia? I dunno maybe the one that says gays are headed to hell gay mafia are running the agenda Yeah there are plenty of gay folk who will admit to their agenda - like this fella The secret gay agenda is to one day be able to say the word “husband” on the train, at the pub, in front of the tradie or in my regional Queensland home town without fear of being bashed or verbally abused. https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/gay-marriage/whats-really-changed-a-year-on-from-the-samesex-marriage-yes-vote-a-lot-but-also-not-much/news-story/897a0053e57bb3f3fb65e844c7d1b721

Morrison is on record stating that he does not believe gay people will go to hell.

Fionn, I think both Qantas (and capital) lost out as this divisive episode pulled rugby and its associated brands such as the Qantas Wallabies through he mud. A distracted and divisive Qantas Wallaby team will play at he 2019 RWC with the smell of the death of IF's career around their neck. Everyone lost in this sorry saga.

The Israel Folau saga illustrates how ineffective it is to punish someone for deeply held religious believes. No Code of Conduct, contract, jail term or even crucifixion will prevent someone from acting on their believes if they think the reward in the afterlife outweighs the pain in the current. To blame IF I think is simplistic and ignore the role others played to crate this lose-lose situation. There was a better way to deal with this by stimulating debate to create mutual understanding and tolerance for different opinions and believes. Some of these believes my be valid or invalid but I still think the best course of action is to discuss the merits of each of them so that society can progress and make up their minds. Neither Folau, Rugby Australia, Qantas and other major sponsors nor the media (that did their best to sensationalise and confuse) promoted a respectful debate so we have not learned much from this sorry episode. Not even Alan Joyce should gain any satisfaction from the role he played in (what is likely to be) the termination of Israel Folau's rugby career during a RWC year. This was just failure of leadership on so many levels.

The Roar seems to have shutdown the Folau discussion. Since last article, there’s been serious doubts raised about Folau’s contract, that Castle is under the pump for botching it. Also, Folau has deleted all images of him in Tah’s/WB’s uniform. Seems strange as Roar was running, a few articles a day up until recently. Labour did target the PM, and he simply replied that he’s Running for PM, not to be the Pope

https://www.qantas.com/travel/airlines/service-dogs/global/en Apparently not. Qantas has a specific policy on this.

For the reason outlined in the comment you responded to. Those are actions you choose to do. Being a homosexual is not something you choose.

Joyce is so inclusive except of course if you need your guide dog, because of a disability, that won't be allowed.

You're right I reckon. It's more about homophobes blaming anyone other than Israel Folau for his hate speech.