Eight talking points from Bledisloe 2

By Oliver Matthews / Expert

Right. So that’s what it feels like to have your hope, optimism and dreams stamped on by 15 angry Kiwis.

Over the past week there has been a growing sense of what could be amongst fans of the Wallabies and perhaps even the players themselves. After the massive win in Perth, maybe, just maybe this was the year when the Bledisloe Cup returned to Australia.

So what on earth happened?

Where did last week’s intensity go?
One of the things that fans loved so much about the performance in Bledisloe 1 was the intensity and accuracy that the Wallabies brought to the game for the full 80 minutes.

They matched the All Blacks shot for shot in the first half and then used their numerical advantage in the second half to dominate and truly kill off the Kiwis.

Surely with some more confidence from a big win and having seen the value of that intensity, the Wallabies would come out of the blocks like Usain Bolt in Eden Park.

But they didn’t. Whether it was the pressure of the occasion or their inability to go to their limits two weeks in a row or something else entirely, the Wallabies couldn’t find those same Perth levels and just couldn’t keep up with the home side.

Given how important the Bledisloe Cup is in the eyes of players and fans alike, it’s concerning that the Wallabies weren’t able to get up for this game.

Now it should be acknowledged that the All Blacks were in one of those moods where it’s almost impossible to stop them.

But you just got the impression that while the Wallabies put up some resistance against the black waves, the capitulation of the Aussies was inevitable.

You never got the feeling that the Wallabies were going to put together 10 to 15 minutes of truly dominant play and force the All Blacks out of their comfort zone.

This doesn’t bode well for the World Cup where the Aussies are going to need at least six out of seven games in just a few weeks – all away from home – to lift the trophy.

(Photo by Renee McKay/Getty Images)

Did someone lose Plan B down the back of the sofa?
It’s been said before and it’ll be said again – but the Wallabies really have to develop a Plan B.

Since all the way back in 2016 when the English whitewashed the Australians in Australia over a three-game series, there have been concerns about how the Wallabies seem to either not have a Plan B or not be able to switch to it when the needs arise.

In Eden Park, it became clear that the same tactics from Perth were not going to work.

Nic White’s sniping play that had caused the Kiwis so many problems last week was being much better policed on Saturday and the forwards were unable to give the backs any decent ball to play with.

Also, not sure if anyone noticed, but it was pouring it down!

Despite this, at no point did the Wallabies seem to adjust their game plan. Actually to be fair, it was more alarming – when they did try and switch tactics and kick more compared to last week, their inability to kick from hand well became evident again.

The All Blacks were able to snuff out the Wallabies Plan A and then, much to their delight, the Wallabies just stuck with the same ineffective approach.

Of course it’s hard to play good rugby when your forwards are struggling but just trying to do the same thing over and over is not far off the definition of insanity.

We need to talk about Kurtley
Kurtley Beale continued to divide opinion amongst rugby fans with his performance over the past two matches. In Perth he was fantastic and people were joking “Israel who?” – but oh, how things change.

This week he had an absolute shocker and boy did the All Blacks make him suffer. As soon as he showed he was having a rough night with the high ball the Kiwis picked on him like they were some schoolyard bully picking on the new kid.

Kick after kick went up and you could almost hear the voice in Kurtley’s brain begging for mercy.

It was also worrying to see how often Beale got caught out of position when in defence. Far too often there was a lot of open grass in behind the Wallabies for the All Blacks to take advantage of and time after time the Aussies found themselves having to run or kick their way out of their own 22.

On his day he can carve teams up but he’s having fewer and fewer of these days and this season has seen him spend far too much time crabbing sideways across the field rather than running direct at the opposition and challenging defences with his fast feet and hands.

Given that the weather was so bad and he was clearly having a tough time with the high-ball you have to wonder whether Michael Cheika started thinking about a new starting full back and having Kurtley come off the bench in the World Cup.

Unfortunately for Cheika, it’s not just his full back who is a point of concern…

(Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

The Wallabies’ back three aren’t good enough yet
Again, it was a tough night for all the Wallabies and the All Blacks were in fine form, but one thing that was evident is that the Wallabies really need genuine wingers to play on the wing.

Reece Hodge is not an international class winger. He’s a hard-working guy who will always give his all but he’s not a winger.

He dropped key ball, he missed more tackles than he made, he was out of position for some All Blacks’ attacks and he was done by George Bridge for pace more than once.

He’s got a great big boot on him but that can’t be the reason why the Wallabies choose a winger.

Also of concern was the way in which the back three don’t seem to communicate as well as they need to, especially in defence.

Too often there were big gaps of grass for the All Blacks to kick into and more than once all three of the back three were up in the defensive line with apparently no thought to tell each other that perhaps one of them should think about dropping back.

Can this back row really dominate an opposition?
The Wallabies have often struggled to decide what their best approach is when it comes to the back row over the past few years.

The Hooper-Pocock debate has been the topic of many a pub debate and, you assume, selection panel meeting. With Pocock still out and potentially not coming back the team have had to look elsewhere and they just haven’t quite found the right combo yet.

Michael Hooper continues to impress with the level of effort he gives to every game but his lack of size really means he can’t break the line close to the ruck – he’s more dangerous out in the wider channels or on the shoulder of a big man.

Isi Naisarani has impressed for sure but isn’t world-class yet and then there’s Lukhan Salakaia-Loto who is going to come under a lot of scrutiny in the coming days.

Salakaia-Loto had a bad game both in defence where he let George Bridge coast through untouched and in attack where he just couldn’t counter the fast, hard-hitting Kiwi defence.

Basically – this back row doesn’t feel like it’s got any real mongrel about it. Other teams aren’t going to be really scared of it and will always fancy that they can target the Wallabies back row.

Where’s the scrum gone?
There were some very concerning scenes at Eden Park for the Wallabies forwards. Even after Dan Coles had gone to the naughty step for pretending to be a Judo champion, the Australian scrum got monstered by a seven-man All Blacks pack.

That is not good! For all the excitement of dazzling moves by the backs, there is nothing more heart-breaking for a team than seeing their big men get absolutely dominated.

The pattern continued throughout the second half where the All Blacks knew that a scrum was a genuine chance of breaking Australian spirits and earning valuable penalties.

This has to stop immediately if the Wallabies want to challenge at the World Cup. They cannot have opposition packs thinking that they are easy to beat up and must come back with some impressive performances in the set-piece.

Tupou needs to get the ball more
Taniela Tupou had some stunning moments in the game once he came off the bench and the Wallabies need to use him more. He’s got an incredible set of hands for a big prop and he’s not slow either.

By the time he came on the game was already decided but his energy really helped lift the Aussie side and he is one of the players who will run head long into defences over and over and over again.

His scrummaging is getting better and given how poor the Aussie scrum was there is clearly a need for some improvement there but this guy is exciting and he can terrorise teams at the World Cup.

(Photo by Jono Searle/Getty Images)

Don’t lose faith just yet
It’s hard to find many positive points when you’ve lost by 36 points and failed to score a single point yourself. What makes it worse is the difference between the two games just seven days apart.

But there are still reasons to keep the faith. Michael Cheika should stick with many of these players and combinations and allow them to keep developing.

Yes it’s perhaps a bit late to say that they are developing when you consider the World Cup is just weeks away but more chopping and changing is not going to help things.

The team who have played the past couple of weeks should be as near as damn it the starting fifteen in the opening games in Japan, and Cheika has to keep faith with these players.

The ones who are currently not playing – Bernard Foley for example – don’t offer anything dramatically better to warrant being brought back in and while they will likely be in the squad for Japan, they haven’t made a good enough case to be in the starting line up.

Nic White is good for the Wallabies and he’s forced Will Genia to up his game. Christian Lealiifano is good for the Wallabies too and is putting pressure on Foley and is able to bring some valuable skills to the backline that have been missing previously.

James O’Connor and Samu Kerevi could become an exciting centre pairing and O’Connor should not be dropped for Tevita Kuridrani.

The Crowd Says:

2019-09-08T14:29:57+00:00

Nova

Roar Rookie


The press shoot themselves in the foot every time. Photoshopping pictures of old men Reid, Williams and Whitelock the week before. So clever but then rivers of egg that are still flowing since that drubbing. Will they ever learn?

2019-08-19T22:06:33+00:00

GJ

Guest


Dear journo please make some suggestions. Here are mine: 1. Hodge at Full Back. Huge boot pretty good under the high ball. Plus he is tall which makes a huge difference. Then play Dane HP on the wing. KB at best a utility back off the bench. Sides like England and SA will destroy KB with constant pressure. 2. Paloto-Nau should be in the starting team once his knee is good. He is a very good scrummager. Hookers make a big difference in the scrum. The other two guys aren’t great there and cannot win if scrum is bad. 3. ARU needs to smell the coffee and appreciate player numbers too small in Aus like SA have. Will Skelton should be in the squad. Players player of the year in the U.K. and had Itoji on the flank. Sarries have him fit, disciplined, offloading balls and dominating rucks. ARU management should be fired for not bringing him in. Aside from Arnold Aus locks don’t have enough mongrel cf SA or England. 4. Hooper is too small and doesn’t make enough of an impact. Players like Dempsey, Samu and Pocock better bets. Also need height in the line out and a more effective ball carrier. 5. Aus is better with the ball in hand or at line out. Exists should be to kick for touch not give ball back to World class NZ back 3. That should be their default when things aren’t going their way. If having a bad day at line out then pick and go in forwards. Currently the team c@@ps itself and try’s too much complicated backline play. 6. More bulk needed at cleanout. See 4 and 3. 7. More focus on the d line in the backs. Probably down to Hodge being out of place and MK being slow to position. Banks might be an option for wing. My two cents. Suggestions always better than criticism dear writer.

2019-08-19T09:40:49+00:00

ScottD

Roar Guru


I don't know that he is a great fullback. For my money that hasn't been demonstrated. I can't think of a single game where he has been exceptional in that role. Good yes, solid yes, exceptional no. And the same can be said about him on the wing. But I think the wing is easier for him to play than fullback which is a very difficult position to play well.

2019-08-19T07:58:35+00:00

Chivas

Roar Rookie


Typical Jacko… still not able to answer any of the questions. Don’t own or take responsibility for what you post and now you think I’m angry at Mo’unga playing well… ok, you are a certifiable joke.

2019-08-19T07:21:09+00:00

Jacko

Guest


Go Chivas...Make more crap up...who cares what you want to make up and post here....You are saying I dont know what I was thinking and what I meant but you do? Keep ranting if that makes you a happy little chappie....the only decent thing you posted is that you are a Waikato and Chiefs fan.....As am I and have been all my life with Waikato and all of their existance with the Chiefs...But that aside do not start telling me what my words are suppossed to mean.....Why are you so angry that Mounga had the best game in a test of his career? And what other choice is there?....You question if I watch the game?....anyone you disagree with doesnt watch the game I guess.....

2019-08-19T07:09:02+00:00

Jacko

Guest


how can it be an observation when it didnt happen to be observed?

2019-08-19T07:07:21+00:00

MitchO

Guest


A bit early to call player of the year. Savea has his hand up but so does BBBB and some other guys around the place whom I haven't seen.

2019-08-19T06:29:54+00:00

Lara

Guest


I apologise for the abbreviations , I did not realise people would get so worked up about. Must be a lot of seniors on this site. Cheers everyone.

2019-08-19T05:46:58+00:00

Shane D

Roar Rookie


I think you were missing Rory Arnold big time. AAA was angling in because of the pressure. He didn’t want to drop the scrum or pop so had to go somewhere.

2019-08-19T05:41:25+00:00

Shane D

Roar Rookie


The main thing for me is that he was consistent. Peyper allowed the Wallabies the same opportunity as the AB’s to slow the ball. The AB’s clean out & moving of bodies was accurate & quick. The clean out efforts from the Wallabies was incredibly inaccurate compared to Perth. How TJ Perenara could survive 2 clean outs in a row was hard to understand & a good example.

2019-08-19T05:34:39+00:00

Shane D

Roar Rookie


Hodge was just demonstrating to Cheika that he does not have the pace to be an international wing. He was simply too flat & that normally comes from a bloke not having enough trust in his speed to maintain depth. The pass wasn’t great but if Hodge has held his depth & taken the ball he was outside his man. One thing I will give Hodge though is he has heart. Compare his chase after being beaten by Bridge when Smith scored to Beales efforts when Reece kicked ahead for his try.

2019-08-19T04:33:17+00:00

Tooly

Roar Rookie


What exactly did the Saint do that excited you. SBW was smiling all game as he dominated Kerevi. Kerevi doesn’t pass the ball to anyone , not to Kuridrani or the Saint. I can live with that as long as we have the solid defence Kuridrani bring . This releases Beale and co at the back. But don’t winge about Kuridrani not running the ball. He doesn’t get it , and it’s not a 13s job to be all over the place . His job is defence and to straighten the attack.

2019-08-19T04:21:35+00:00

Tooly

Roar Rookie


At half time Kurtley had gained 100 metres , our best. After half time he ran straight three times as you advocate and was thumped. Running straight is the job of the 13 and the Saint ran nowhere. I don’t care where he runs as long as it’s into a gap, he draws a defender and gets a pass to someone in the the right position with good hands and pace. The options at 15 are worse all have weaknesses. Lack of ball, skills, defence and mostly speed. Banks would be next best. In the mean time cut Kurtley some slack and let him get his confidence back. What exact

2019-08-19T03:58:38+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


sure and thats why Hodge is the better all round f/b than either of them

2019-08-19T03:57:35+00:00

Seymorebutts

Guest


Eight talking points? I can sum it up in four words; ''normal programming has resumed''.

2019-08-19T03:10:39+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


high ball is the one non negotiable skill for a full back tho peter

2019-08-19T03:10:19+00:00

soapit

Roar Guru


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2019-08-19T02:05:17+00:00

terrykidd

Roar Pro


The players need to shoulder most of the responsibility. We lost in the fundamentals not strategy. We got tactically smashed, it didn’t matter what the strategy was, it was never going to be successful. I don’t believe Cheika instructed the team to go into this game soft, inaccurate and slow at every breakdown, don’t back-up breaks and whatever else you do, be sloppy on catch and pass, a week after winning off the back of executing the fundamentals well. This quote says it all. I don't really blame the backs at all, except Hodge, he was atrocious .... misses way too many tackles and constantly over runs the ball. I blame the forward pack entirely. The only two who can hold their chins up are Hooper and Naisarani. The remainder did not get off the team bus except for maybe Tupou. As the opening paragraph says, you cannot blame Cheika for this shambles and I reckon his after game comments were liberally coated in embarrassment.

2019-08-19T01:00:41+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


Hodge a better f/b than winger though

2019-08-19T00:59:48+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


DHP is as poor as Beale with his one redeeming quality being good under the highball

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