Waratahs' experience counting for not very much at all

By Brett McKay / Expert

Holding a narrow 14-13 lead as they ran into the sheds for halftime, I was happy enough to give the Waratahs the benefit of the doubt and call the one-point margin a reasonable reflection of the first forty minutes against the Chiefs in Wollongong on Friday night.

The Chiefs took the points on offer early before Aaron Cruden missed a third penalty attempt in the 16th minute, and they converted this building pressure into more points five minutes later through winger Shaun Stevenson. At 13-0, things looked ominous.

But to their credit, the Waratahs fought back, sending Kurtley Beale over in the 26th minute and Jack Dempsey out wide in the 32nd minute, with young flyhalf Will Harrison converting both tries. 14 points was a more than solid reply to the Chiefs’ opening, the tight lead a good reward for the Waratahs getting themselves back into the game and converting field position into points.

“What we need to maintain is to keep building up that pressure. We’ve been showing some promise in building the phases, so just keep that going throughout the whole (second) half,” flanker Lachie Swinton told George Gregan on Fox Sports as he walked from the field at the break.

It made reasonable sense in a way that so many halftime interviews just don’t.

But, of course, we all know what happened after halftime.

The Waratahs shelled five tries in twenty minutes – 33 points in all – and basically watched on as the game didn’t so much slip away from them, but rather plummeted off a cliff away from them. The moment Chiefs scrumhalf Brad Weber ran in his second try in as many minutes, for the Chiefs to jump out to a 25-14 lead in the 46th minute, the Waratahs were gone.

(Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

The thing that stood out to me about the nature of that second half performance from the Waratahs is that it wasn’t the young guys with a couple of caps making the crucial errors.

It was the guys who have had more than a few years in a Super Rugby environment and even with the Wallabies. There might be no better example than Beale dropping the ball cold with not a defender near him.

It was pointed out earlier in the season that for all the talk the substantial rebuild the Waratahs were undertaking, they were still taking the field with one of the highest total caps tally in the competition.

In Beale, Rob Simmons and Michael Hooper, the Waratahs also have three of the top four most experienced players in Super Rugby this season.

With Simmons out for the Chiefs game, the Waratahs still took to the field with a combined 904 Super Rugby caps. On the bench, even with three guys on debut, the Tahs could still call on 268 games worth of experience.

And this is a big difference between the Waratahs and Reds this season.

Queensland have one of the least-experienced squads in the competition, but are trying to get away from the ‘young team’ tag themselves because they acknowledge that they are a squad that has played a lot of rugby together as a unit.

And it’s this point of familiarity that has me agreeing with Geoff Parkes, who yesterday suggested that only the Reds were any prospect of clawing their way into the top group of teams in 2020.

Certainly, they are the best of the bottom six teams. For one thing, they’re the only team of the bottom six who still have a positive points differential, their record comparable with the Rebels, Hurricanes, Jaguares, and even the Blues directly above them on the table.

Their three losing bonus points are the most in the competition, and two of them were by less than a try. They haven’t got the wins they perhaps deserve, but they are certainly playing better rugby than the other five teams stuck on just one win.

Reds coach Brad Thorn (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

(For what it’s worth, Queensland’s biggest issue going forward is going to be accumulating enough points to make a charge. Already, their maximum available points are the lowest in the comp, meaning that just winning games won’t be enough for them; they’re already sweating on teams above them to start losing.)

New South Wales don’t have this benefit of the doubt that is still being applied to Queensland. The Waratahs have six guys in their first season of Super Rugby, but have 13 playing at least their fourth season and two more playing their third. 13 of the 23 that faced the Chiefs in Wollongong on Friday night have played 30 or more games (the other nine have played no more than 11).

And this is why errors like those couple of knock-ons from Beale standout. They’re not coming from the young guys.

Kurtley Beale of the Waratahs (Photo by Anthony Au-Yeung/Getty Images)

Only six of the starting XV – Angus Bell, Robbie Abel, Ryan McCauley, Jack Dempsey, Mitch Short, and Karmichael Hunt – didn’t concede a turnover.

Only three – Abel, Tom Staniforth, and Will Harrison – didn’t miss a tackle.

Through the second half, the Waratahs simply had no answer for the Chiefs’ onslaught, and there wasn’t a lot of evidence of senior players leading from the front. The bench impact was token; six of the eight carried the ball, yet only four of them made ground – and none reached double figure metres. Prop Tetera Faulkner has played more than a hundred games of Super Rugby over ten years and his only entry on the stat sheet for Friday night was a single tackle in 27 minutes.

Too many senior Waratahs are providing nothing like the example the genuine young players need. Paul Cully hit more than a few nails in his scything analysis of the Waratahs performance for the Nine Newspapers over the weekend, but none more so than when he wrote, “Wallabies coach Dave Rennie won’t give a stuff for reputations.”

There’s more than enough evidence – goal-kicking aside – to make a case for the Reds still getting their season on track.

Worryingly, after just five games, there’s no such evidence coming out of the very players who should be leading the way for the Waratahs.

The Crowd Says:

2020-03-13T10:51:06+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Not now, but in the 2000s. The only players that would struggle to make it are the players that struggle to make Super Rugby here. It’s a good standard. My point is just that it’s no better than Aus SR teams. It’s lower. As it should be expected to be.

2020-03-13T10:46:20+00:00

jcmasher

Roar Rookie


Absolutely NZ Mitre 10 is lower than Super rugby. But thats the point of it so not an issue. As far as SS goes I doubt very much than any of the players I that over rated competition would make a top NZ club side let alone the Mitre 10. Most SS teams would lose to the top NZ clubs by 50 points so I cant see the players being of interest.

2020-03-13T10:42:46+00:00

jcmasher

Roar Rookie


Bang on mate. Beale is an over rated liability who gloves up more than he ever produces. Time for him to piss off

2020-03-12T06:46:57+00:00

Lano

Roar Guru


Very amusing - clever!!!

2020-03-12T02:29:52+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Adam Ashley-Cooper had 11 test caps in multiple positions prior to Deans. It was Deans that made him into a player with influence.

2020-03-12T02:28:08+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Why did the clubs own those players? How would you like it if you did your apprenticeship somewhere and couldn't get a job elsewhere unless somebody paid a fee your first boss?

2020-03-12T02:27:12+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


He has been made very wealthy from rugby, so he deserves no credit for devoting his life to it.

2020-03-12T02:23:52+00:00

gazza

Roar Rookie


Beale is a nice guy loved by other players. He has devoted his life to rugby so cut him some slack guys. All players have a bad hair day. As a champion he is bound to improve. Playing behind some players who are themselves out of form does not help.

2020-03-12T02:20:46+00:00

gazza

Roar Rookie


Professionalism in rugby has a negative aspect. Players released to play Shute Shield or other club rugby inevitably ask their clubs to pay not only match fees but accommodation , fares etc The majority of those clubs are broke or are running close to the wind financially. Basically the professional Super 12 teams received players from those clubs without transfer fees etc paid to the clubs that coached and developed those players, so wouldn't it be appropriate that such fees and expenses of the clubs to whom the club is released be paid by the professional team.

2020-03-12T02:16:12+00:00

Jason

Guest


I have said for the 3 years Michael Hooper is a liability... he’s an average player who does ok .. but he’s no game winner and no Insprirational captain at all ... look at his record with the wallabies.. terrible .. he’s been their weak point - too small doesn’t do hard stuff .. he’s too showy for kind - god we going to miss Pocock !!!!!

2020-03-12T02:12:33+00:00

Zenn

Roar Rookie


Apologies Peter, my bad...I assume I was interrupted when writing a reply to Fionilkington.

2020-03-12T00:35:48+00:00

Gary

Guest


. " Hooper is the highest ranked Wallabies on international player lists " Well when you never get dropped and play more games then anyone else that happens.

2020-03-11T21:24:30+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


Fionn is Dilkington , not I

2020-03-11T12:23:14+00:00

Mick Gold Coast QLD

Roar Guru


Too funny, and likely accurate. Robbie Deans was obliged to select three of ’em, and to please king maker Two Fathers at all times. His first offence was to not install Li’l Mattie Giteau in his rightful role as captain and he probably still receives the vengeful Faceplant tweets from France. I know little of Rennie but I have been bird-watching Australian rugby for a lifetime and experience tells me he is no more likely to survive than any of his predecessors.

2020-03-11T12:05:44+00:00

Zenn

Roar Rookie


Hi Fionn, Penney is a new coach, the last thing he wants is to get his dressing room offside early in his tenure by alienating senior players who are also the squad's leaders and mentors. He needs 12 months to establish himself with the players.

2020-03-11T11:58:28+00:00

guess

Guest


"When you drop two balls cold, everyone sees that and it's not good, but up until that point he was going pretty well," Penney said, Is he for real? There were so many other things KB did wrong, especially in the crucial moments, like his usual double defending which led to at least two tries, lack of effort and good judgment in other moments. Well if Penney doesn't see a problem, I'm not expecting the solutions from him...

2020-03-11T11:53:17+00:00

Zenn

Roar Rookie


Beale and Simmons were excellent players in their heyday. Hooper is the highest ranked Wallabies on international player lists. In 2018, he and Pocock were the top rated Wallabies. Nick Bishop wrote extensively on the value that the Waratahs Many knowledgeable rugby pundits considered Hunt's 2018 form sufficient to warrant 2019 RWC consideration before his form for the Waratahs deteriorated under Gibson. Dempsey received generally positive reviews before being injured. Notwithstanding the curious use of parentheses in ( They mostly underperformed in gold ) (sic), you fail to provide any evidence to support this broad, unsustainable comment. You appear to consider Cheika as a malevolent charlatan based on scant relevant evidence. Cheika has moved on. It's time his critics did likewise.

2020-03-11T11:49:03+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


No. Because tighthead and loosehead are position specific. They aren’t referred to as tight and loose props.

2020-03-11T11:46:16+00:00

coldturkey

Roar Rookie


“Do you think it’s just a coincidence the game is also referred to as tight and loose though?” :laughing: so TWAS you are suggesting that the tighthead prop should be playing right into the rucks while the loosehead prop is more of a link man standing wide of the rucks? Because of course it has very little to do with how they pack down in the scrum.

2020-03-11T11:44:33+00:00

guess

Guest


If you weren't that busy thinking about his salary, you'd noticed that he was tackled right before that counter ruck, so by the time he came back it was too late. Also of all the right things he did that you turned a blind eye to, you focused on something that isn't even his fault. Unless you're talking about some other counter ruck, then it's just bizarre to accuse a player without getting the facts straight. In any case that's Hooper's haters in a nutshell, don't even need real facts to hate on him, some imaginary stuff is enough.

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