A rebuttal of Alan Jones

By Richard / Roar Rookie

If you’re like me and you read The Australian, then Alan Jones’ weekly stream of consciousness is probably becoming quite tedious.

This week there have been some pretty egregious claims levelled at his usual targets. Unfortunately, unlike this site, The Australian doesn’t encourage a wide range of comments from their readers. A review of the comments section of any of his articles will confirm this.

Alan says a lot of ‘stuff’ – I’m being courteous – in the article, but what gets my focus is the weekly attacks on Scott Johnson, Dave Rennie and the RA admin.

Below is a series of excerpts I have pulled from Jones’ article that I have rebutted and attempted to publish unsuccessfully in The Australian‘s comment section. I did have to be somewhat selective to avoid rewriting his whole piece.

(Photo by Don Arnold/WireImage via Getty Images)

I republish here because I believe this Trumpian propaganda must be challenged in the marketplace of ideas so that these shallow, uninformed, conflicting and boring repetitions can be properly dismantled.

Each of Alan’s points is numbered and my response is below each point. I have not changed anything from the original comment posted. If some of the answers appear terse and short, well, all I can say is that you can only work with the material you have.

At point one Alan starts off by strengthening the foundations around his strawman argument that Rugby Australia’s high-performance coaching unit is a waste of money.

1. “Rugby Australia have ring-fenced the low-performing Wallaby coaching team that chews up around $3 million a year in salaries”
Alan, I know that you know that the new Wallaby coaching team has not even gone into a camp yet let alone played anything that could demonstrate what level they are performing at. I am sure this plays well to your base but it’s nonsensical at best.

At point two, Alan attempts to argue that the $3 million that RA is spending on top-tier international coaches just isn’t really worth it. Below is the core of that argument. It is obvious that point one and two combine into one. Needless to say that these are two separate points in Alan’s world.

This compounds his audience’s sense of grievance, which is much like compounding interest. The grievance grows exponentially in their minds.

2. “Yet a decade-long study by Sam Walker, published in The Wall Street Journal, has discovered that the best teams in history all have one thing in common, a great captain”
Alan, I wonder if your Wallaby team was included in that study. From all reports, it would certainly correlate with the proposition.

In point three, Alan attacks the Tahs’ performance on the weekend. Okay. But the nub of the argument is that the Kiwi coach is the problem with the simplistic solution offered below.

3. “Not so long ago, the Waratahs won the Super Rugby competition under Michael Cheika with a ‘Liverpool attitude’”
About six years ago to be precise. I think we can agree that it was a while ago. Also, I know that you know how Cheika performed overall. Statistically, he had the worst win-loss ratio for any Wallabies coach ever.

Point four is just repetition and inconsistency.

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4. “The heart of the team is the heart of the coach. The Kiwi coach should never have been given the job. Scott Johnson knows how to pick duds”
Alan, the dislike that you have for Scott Johnson is getting pretty petty. Also, I refer to your previous point regarding great teams and coaches. Which way do you want to have it?

Those are the comments The Australian would not publish.

I know my responses will resonate with the majority of this community. My challenge to the community, particularity those who read the The Australian, is to take up the fight here. Much like the Republican party in the USA, all of these poor souls who follow Alan’s words as gospel need some serious re-education. If I was rich and I knew stuff I would start the Lincoln Project equivalent to limit this man’s reputation in the rugby community.

Make no mistake, if you support Dave Rennie and you support Scott Johnson and you support what RA is trying to do to turn things around, then you must support the destruction of these ramblings.

A Chinese proverb goes something like this: a man can die from 1000 paper cuts. The way I see it, it’s either those mentioned above or Alan Jones’ column which will suffer this fate. Go forth and deliver, my Roarers.

The Crowd Says:

2020-08-17T10:48:21+00:00

Ankle-tapped Waterboy

Roar Rookie


[snip] >If I was rich and I knew stuff I would start the Lincoln Project equivalent to limit this man’s reputation in the rugby community. [end snip] The point of the Lincoln Project is to ensure that the Republican Party has a life After Trump. The equivalent here would be that The Australian has a life After Jones. Or maybe After Murdoch. I truly believe that Rupert Murdoch has done more damage to Western civilisation than any other single actor in the past fifty years. Also that the sheer effrontery and chutzpah beggars belief of charging money for a rag that ought to be given away on street corners by the shrill of voice and soft of head. So please, no local Lincoln Project. Just no.

2020-08-07T07:05:47+00:00

Peter Darrow

Roar Guru


QAnon, no you're wrong, just everyday, hard working, intelligent Americans concerned about their country. Which if it comes under left leadership will be destroyed. As with most lefties you believe your opinion is what the majority believe, maybe Clinton, Corbyn and Shorten are not evidence of this. Anyway, enough politics, see what you've done. Take the red pill Richard.

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2020-08-06T12:23:01+00:00

Richard

Roar Rookie


Peter, I really don’t care what you and your Qanno mates get up to in you spare time. This is sports site and I was wrote about a sport matter. I would love to have this conversation face to face but I know what you r type is like and it’s certainly not as tough as you pretend to be in these treads. Stay classy. BLM.

2020-08-06T10:00:51+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Where were they forced? When did the government direct them?

2020-08-06T09:47:46+00:00

Flyman

Roar Rookie


A certain cheese producer were forced to change their name - BLM/Cancel Culture hadn't bothered to research the history of the company, and more is the pity that said company capitulated.

2020-08-06T09:42:42+00:00

Flyman

Roar Rookie


They’re the same mob who want to defund the police - ultimate objective is anarchy, do what you want when you want - no rules applicable.

2020-08-06T06:01:51+00:00

Peter Darrow

Roar Guru


I will quickly address your comments as I don't want to spend too much time on Politics. You may have used metaphors but many people are tired of politics influencing sport. From the Kaepernick knee to indigenous Australians not singing the national anthem. What do I know about what is going on over there? I am in daily contact with approx 300 people from the US in a political group. And I consume news from both left and right media sites. You will be finding it difficult to find the truth there if you are relying on left wing media sites. Am I correct in saying you probably tend to lean left? Maybe your next article could be about the parochial left views of Peter Fitzsimons, just to balance things up? Oh, and just to get back onto sport, isn't Patrick Mahomes a hell of a player??

2020-08-06T05:32:32+00:00

stillmissit

Roar Guru


Sage: Well written but I disagree, if there are people prepared to buy what he writes etc then that's OK with me. I have never been a fan of mass attacks on anyone at any level and I have been on the receiving end of a few real ones.

2020-08-06T05:17:06+00:00

elvis

Roar Rookie


I listened to a Trump speech once, and after reading reports of it in the paper they next day, I could have sworn the reporting was on something else entirely. It gave me in insight into why so many Americans voted for him.

2020-08-06T03:50:24+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


Richard, it's amazing how close Jones & Trump are in thinking & method. Creating chaos is their purpose, to make people think only they have the right answers.

2020-08-06T03:42:02+00:00

Sage

Roar Rookie


Three takeaways. 1 - Don't read the Australian 2 - Don't give Jones any oxygen. I understand the push back concept of holding to account someone who should know better constantly talking down a sport he owes a lot to. It won't change the writers approach especially when they are craving relevance, and it won't change the readers opinion if they are that way inclined. 3 - Enjoy the rich irony of supporting a commentary of not using jibes and then provide collective jibes against "them" and "they" and "their" and "they".

2020-08-06T01:35:50+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Thanks Pete.

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2020-08-06T00:38:14+00:00

Richard

Roar Rookie


Hey Pete, have you ever tried to seat large family gathering like a wedding, there’s politics in it isn’t there? There’s politics in everything, especially sport. Don’t be so naive. First, my references were metaphors and if you look through these comments you can see my standard response to that point. Second, before you tell someone to “do their own thinking” because of what they have “seen on predominantly left wing mainstream media” you should really ask yourself the same question. I mean you’re in Australia and I live in America so what exactly do you know about whats going over here? What sources are you relying on to keep you informed about the facts. I just live here…please enlighten me. This article wasn’t about politics which most people are able recognize pretty easily. Unfortunately there are still a few bricks out there.

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2020-08-06T00:23:53+00:00

Richard

Roar Rookie


If someone could please advise the nexus between this comment and my article that would be great.

AUTHOR

2020-08-06T00:23:02+00:00

Richard

Roar Rookie


Trumpian, really? Yes. Its dark, it dishonest, it divisive, its uniformed...shall I go on.

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2020-08-06T00:20:29+00:00

Richard

Roar Rookie


Thanks for the comment. I would like to think that I have that discerning mind. I agree, a few years ago he was calling out a lot of stuff that needed to be said. Now days I have no idea what his objective is other than to be destructive.

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2020-08-06T00:17:50+00:00

Richard

Roar Rookie


Many do unfortunately and his uniformed views are far too pervasive in the rugby community IMO.

2020-08-05T21:10:12+00:00

Kashmir Pete

Roar Guru


Nice post Ken. Cheers KP

2020-08-05T21:08:27+00:00

Kashmir Pete

Roar Guru


Spruce Read the Oz omments You will find plenty as correct as yourself, battling with the opposite extremity. Your natural home I think. KP

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2020-08-05T14:50:42+00:00

Richard

Roar Rookie


It’s difficult aye. Dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t. I’m more of a fight kinda guy.

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