The Roar’s NRL expert tips and predictions: Semi-finals

By Scott Pryde / Expert

Eight has become six, and this weekend it’s all-knockout footy, with upsets potentially on the horizon in both matches. This is The Roar’s NRL expert tipping for the semi-finals.

Last weekend’s elimination and qualifying finals turned out to be a fairly straightforward week for tipping, with most of the panel landing four our of four.

Unfortunately for AJ and The Barry, they both tipped the Roosters and landed with three. It means you, the Crowd, now have a three-point lead on AJ at the head of affairs, while Mary and David both draw to within three points of AJ.

The Barry and I may be a distant bottom of the table, but we are now equal on points and duking it out to avoid The Roar’s version of the wooden spoon come grand final day, where plenty of points will be on offer as we tip the game, the margin, the Clive Churchill, first try-scorer and the NRLW decider.

With all the favourites getting up last weekend, it means we have been left with the predictable semi-finals.

First, the SCG will be back in action as the Sydney Roosters – who haven’t been able to sell out a reduced capacity as yet – take on the Canberra Raiders in a rematch of last year’s grand final.

It’s the second year in a row the Tricolours play last year’s grand final adversaries during the following finals series, and after belting the Storm last year, they will like their chances against the Green Machine.

The other semi-final is a picture of inconsistency, as Saturday brings us back to the west where the Parramatta Eels host the South Sydney Rabbitohs in a game which is incredibly tough to tip.

Remember to get your tips into the form below by 6pm (AEDT) on Friday to join The Roar’s NRL tipping competition for 2020 and be featured as part of the Crowd’s tips for Week 2 of the finals.

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AJ Mithen

Tips: Raiders, Eels

Well done to all who got a full four last round. Sure, you all went the coward’s way and tipped favourites, but they won, so there you go. Things get very interesting this weekend, with two lower-placed sides a genuine chance of upending the stats and taking a win against a top-four side.

I’ve heard the Roosters are struggling to sell out their modified crowd allocation for the SCG eliminator against the mighty Canberra Raiders. It makes sense – which self-respecting Rooster fan would want to pay top dollar to watch their dishevelled, bedraggled mob capitulate against the people’s team? Trent Robinson was livid last week against the Panthers, and with good reason – he knows his men threw absolutely everything they had into winning that game and getting a week off.

After emptying the tank they have to back up against a chirpy Canberra side who had their problems with Cronulla but sorted themselves out before blowing them away.

Canberra cannot start slowly, because the Roosters won’t let them back. I’m comfortable, though, saying the Raiders will knock up a causal 56 points with thunderous vigour and take the win.

It may not be popular to say this, but aside from a horrible nine minutes in the second half, Parramatta were bloody good last week. You don’t have Melbourne fiendishly stopping play for cramp unless they’re fearful of your momentum, and the Storm had to break out all the tricks to keep the Eels at bay late in the game.

Parra went to sleep at 18-18 for nine minutes and copped 18 unanswered points – and the Bunnies are more than capable of doing that too. This game will be a belter. You all know I love South Sydney. I love Uncle Wayne. But 2020 comes to an end for the cardinal and myrtle this weekend.

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Mary Konstantopoulos

Tips: Roosters, Eels

After their performance last week I’m not sure the Roosters can win the premiership. They have been impressive and certainly have the talent, but there was a 30-minute period in their performance where they couldn’t match the physicality of Penrith.

That said, this week Jake Friend returns, which is a big boost and hopefully means we don’t see Mitch Aubusson playing at hooker. I think the Raiders will give this game a red-hot shake, but I’m going the Roosters. I think they will keep their three-peat dreams alive for one more week.

As a Parramatta fan I’m going down with the ship. The Eels are now without Maika Sivo, and Blake Ferguson is unlikely at 100 per cent and neither is Dylan Brown. On the other side are the Rabbitohs, whose halves pairing isn’t too far off from the competition’s best, Nathan Cleary and Jarome Luai. I am tipping purely out of loyalty for this game and giving the Eels a chance when very few others will.

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David Holden

Tips: Roosters, Rabbitohs

Well, it finally happened. With the Crowd now out of sight, AJ is showing signs of cracking just three weeks out from season’s end. Mary and I are now only three behind, and with some unusual tipping categories coming up in the grand final, there are still enough points on offer if we are good enough.

If you believe the large majority of NRL coaches, the key to winning is focussing on your game and not focussing on the opposition. Footy tipping is the complete reverse.

AJ has tipped the Raiders by 50-plus every week. Surely he picks them again. That’s good enough reason for me to tip the Roosters – well, that and my thought that the Roosters will win.

Trent Robinson would have been rocked to the core over the last fortnight, but he would also have been impressed by the way the Roosters fought back against the Panthers and almost got a miracle win.

The Raiders would have been happy enough with their 12-point win over the Sharks. However, the game momentum swung with the Raiders intercept before halftime and the Jack Wighton quick tap try shortly after the break. In retrospect, the win wasn’t that impressive.

With the potential draw in front of them, I’m not sure the Roosters can win the competition again. But at the SCG this Friday night I think they will keep their season alive.

Around six weeks ago the Rabbits thumped the Eels 38-0 at Bankwest Stadium. Cody Walker ran riot and the Eels looked short on both edges after the Rabbits launched raid after raid.

After conceding 36 points against the Storm last weekend, I’m not sure much has changed since that loss in late August.

The loss of Maika Sivo and possibly Blake Ferguson robs the Eels of two big targets on the wing but also two of Parramatta’s hardest workers out of the red zone. This could impact their go forward on Saturday night.

Although not perfect against the Knights, Souths showed enough to suggest they have further to go in this competition. The Rabbits will progress to the preliminary final.

The Barry

Tips: Roosters, Rabbitohs

Friday brings us the third (and definitely last) grand final rematch of the season. The ledger stands at one convincing win each. In the first game an injury-ravaged Raiders routed the recalcitrant Roosters for revenge. However, Round 17 saw the resurgent Roosters relegate the resolute Raiders to return ruin. Sorry.

It’s not that long ago we were asking how far Canberra could keep going. To their credit, they ground out wins when they needed to but have since changed their attack to the point they’ve won nine from their past 11. The worry? In the last two months they’ve played top four teams only twice and lost both.

The first 20 minutes for the Roosters have been identical in the last fortnight. Cruise to a commanding early lead and then collapse like a marshmallow in a campfire (guess what I’ve been doing!). Maybe after two premierships the fire is burning low, but I still can’t give up on them turning things around and coming good. But I said that last week too!

Broken record time, but it’s not that long ago the Eels looked the complete footy team – back three making massive metres in the early tackles, middle third dominating, halves playing creative footy and attacking threats down both edges. You’d be doing it tough to apply of those descriptions now. Their dummy half still has one of the best off-the-ground passing games I’ve ever seen.

At the same time, Souths looked busted. Their middle third was losing pretty much every battle and relying on their halves and outside backs to get them home.

Latrell Mitchell started finding form and then got busted. Gone.

All of a sudden Wayne Bennett has worked his magic. The middle forwards are playing out of their skins (still a few errors) but, more importantly, Adam Reynolds and Cody Walker are playing like one of the great halves combos, Corey Allen is arguably the form fullback of the comp and Alex Johnston can’t stop scoring tries.

Walker’s performance against the Roosters was one of the greatest individual games I’ve ever seen. He’s playing eyes-up footy better than anyone in the modern game and arguably better than anyone since Cliff Lyons. Like Olive Twist: please sir, I want some more.

I think we’ll get it.

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Scott Pryde

Tips: Roosters, Rabbitohs

I’m not sure where to start this weekend. They are both really tough games to tip.

At home you’d think the Roosters would have too much for the Raiders, but with their inconsistency and sudden struggles for form following the blowout loss to the Rabbitohs and nearly but not quite good enough fall to Penrith last weekend you have to wonder where they are really at.

The Raiders were hardly dominant against Cronulla though, and they aren’t the same team they were at this time last year either.

Still, they have already won once at the SCG this year. I can’t see the Roosters letting that happen twice, so they win in a low-scoring, close-fought tussle.

The other semi-final makes me want to flip a coin and be done with it.

I’m not sure the Eels will have the strike power they need without Maika Sivo. He is immense in starting their sets and scoring tries out wide, so with him on the sideline, it’ll be up to the forwards and Mitchell Moses to pick up the slack.

Can they do it to shut out Souths? I’m not so sure.

I have to tip the Rabbitohs though. I’ve always said any team who plays a qualifying final against the Storm in Week 1 must win. It’s simply too difficult to back up from without a week off.

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Finals W2 AJ Mary David The Barry Scott Crowd
SYD v CAN CAN SYD SYD SYD SYD SYD
PAR v SOU PAR PAR SOU SOU SOU SOU
Last week 3 4 4 3 4 4
Total 118 115 115 108 108 121

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The Crowd Says:

2020-10-12T03:05:16+00:00

Jeremy

Guest


Panthers vs Raiders grand final, you heard it here first.

2020-10-10T03:17:16+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


Maybe he is talking about the six again call by the 2nd referee that caused Canberra to run it on the 6th tackle rather than kicking the match winning field goal. They scrapped the two referees after that catastrophic system fail so it won't happen again. Easts were lucky to win in 2019 and Souths showed how weak their defence is. Keary is a brilliant attacking player but a liability in defence.

2020-10-09T02:33:56+00:00

Walter Black

Guest


Ain't that the truth. The trouble with being premiers is that every other team aims up when playing you. That leads to increased fatigue and increased injuries even if most of those don't actually stop you playing. That is why the week off is so very important. Had the Roosters won last week, I could see them getting to a third GF. As it is, they will be in for another very tough battle again this weekend.

2020-10-09T02:26:33+00:00

Walter Black

Guest


Apart from stating that history tends to support that a bye is a big advantage, where have I used historical stats ? Of course Raiders v Rabbits GF is not ridiculous and I never said it was, All I said was that the Odds are stacked against it and that is a statement that I stand by.

2020-10-09T02:17:08+00:00

Walter Black

Guest


There are several eminent scientists around the world who have suggested that temperature is a governing factor that decides how long this thing can live outside of the human body, a theory that supports why cold stores and meat processing works tend to be "hot spots" for this thing. That being the case, maybe a large part of Victoria's bad luck is that they suffer a real winter unlike most other states. This theory also supports why most of Europe is suddenly going nuts again. The sooner we can get this thing beaten and back to a proper sporting calendar the better (I have to confess to watching AFL last week, a whole 5 minutes before I turned over - wife suggested I should see a psychiatrist).

2020-10-09T01:28:37+00:00

Ben Lewis

Roar Pro


Semi-Finals... the time of year that no top-four team wants any part of. It means a harder path to the grand final, it means an extra week of fatigue, and worst of all it means the possibility of going out in straight sets. Both the Roosters and the Eels will be heavily disappointed with their losses last week; the Roosters being unable to match the Panthers' passion and rabid fans screaming them on, and the Eels taking their foot off the gas for ten minutes and allowing the Storm to run away with the game courtesy of some incredible attacking play and Blake Ferguson living down to his reputation of being a colossal disappointment. With that being said, they'll need to bounce back quickly and not let the losses affect their mental state as they are both playing resurgent sides who have every reason to believe they could make the grand final from outside the top four. The Roosters take on a well oiled green machine in a rematch of the 2019 grand final, although this time without Ben Cummins and hopefully the Roosters' trainers despicable antics. The Eels host the Rabbitohs at the same location they were humiliated at merely a month ago by 38 points to zip, without star winger Maika Sivo and second winger Blake Ferguson. Starting with the Roosters/Raiders match; it's hard to predict exactly how both sides will deal with their performances last week. The Roosters played exceptionally well against the Panthers only to be run down by a point, while the Raiders started sluggishly against a side they were expected to blow off the park. The return of Jake Friend will no doubt be a massive boost for the Chickens, while the Raiders will benefit from having all of their stars back and without the rust that plagued them during the first half of last week's elimination final. Sonny Bill Williams also lines up on the bench for the Tri-Colours, and I would be so unbelievably happy to see Papalli smack him straight back to Toronto. That notwithstanding, both teams are fielding tremendous line-ups. I think the odds on this one are a little harsh against Canberra; $2.75 to pick up the win against $1.47 is really interesting considering the form and momentum of both teams. The Roosters hosting in Sydney would be a benefit to them in theory, were it not for the fact that they lost to a severely depleted Raiders outfit at the same venue earlier in the season. Trent Robinson will no doubt have been exceptionally fired up at training this week and no doubt the Chooks will similarly be firing on all cylinders in a desperate attempt to keep their threepeat aspirations alive. The Raiders meanwhile will have a burning desire to avenge last year's controversial grand final loss and continue their own charge towards making amends for not bringing the trophy down the Hume highway. The Storm awaits at Suncorp the winners of this game, and I think it will be the Raiders. The Raiders' roll just seems a little more impressive compared to the Roosters, and I think their spirit and desire will get the better of the Roosters and send them back to Bondi with their tails between their legs. It won't be a blowout but the Raiders will get the better of a fatigued and injury-plagued Eastern Suburbs. Raiders by 4. Turning to the second game, and the game I have been dreading since about 10:00 pm last Saturday. The Rabbitohs are the deserved favourites here; having demolished the fortress of Bankwest stadium back in the regular season and putting on a clinic in the second half against a disappointing Newcastle side last week. They will fancy their chances against the Eels and they will likely fancy their chances against the Panthers next week should they make it that far. The Eels held their own last week against the Storm to the surprise of many; managing to recapture a spark from the start of the year that they have lost somewhere over the course of the last three months. It wasn't enough to get the better of the Melburnians and earn the week off; some wayward defence in the second half coupled with a few minutes of lowered intensity and Blake Ferguson failing to make a catch that you would expect of a schoolboys side led to the Eels being shoved into the dreaded sudden death semis. Sivo is out, and Fergo is likely to be sitting next to him on the sidelines necessitating a different looking backline from Brad Arthur. It remains to be seen how big an impact this will have, but hopefully the replacements will earn their jerseys and keep us alive. For all the disappointment in losing a game they looked a possibility to win, it is important to remember the backline shuffling that was required after Sivo went down. It's all well and good to say things could have been different had the side remained intact, but it's a point that does have some legitimacy. Either way, al 17 men are going to need to bring the same urgency and intensity they brought to Suncorp and keep it there for the full 80 minutes if they want to knock off the Bunnies and set up a western derby preliminary final in a week's time. Cody Walker is in career-best form and if he can manage the troops the same way he and Adam Reynolds did against the Knights last week, it will be hard to see the Eels matching it with them. Add this to the psychological advantage the Rabbits will have after shredding the edge defence of the Eels a month ago, and you can see why the Rabbitohs are the bookies' favourites. I said last week that I would consider a preliminary final appearance to be a successful season this year and while my head leans towards the Rabbitohs snuffing out that prospect, I'm listening to my heart and tipping a Parramatta win. We simply need it far more and if Brad Arthur can recapture the form we showed in the first 20 minutes against Melbourne, we should be able to hold off the Rabbitohs provided we keep our heads and don't let them get around us on the edges. Against my better judgement, the Eels will prove that they were not just making up the numbers in the top four by besting the Bunnies and moving on to Penrith next week. Eels by 8. TL;DR: Raiders, Eels. Side note; I really wish Grant Atkins was refereeing this week.

2020-10-08T23:24:29+00:00

Nat

Roar Rookie


What? Not so subtle? :stoked:

2020-10-08T23:22:59+00:00

Tom G

Roar Rookie


If form was the determining factor you can’t go past Raiders and Rabbits... that being said it’s sudden death footy and anything can happen. Let’s just hope that the bloke with the whistle, the flags or the bunker of doom have any influence on the results

2020-10-08T21:06:08+00:00

Dan

Guest


You can’t use historical stats this year. As people have continually pointed out it’s unprecedented. The best way to look at it is it doesn’t matter who has been the best team over the whole year, who are the best teams right now. Forget where they finished, what does the recent form say? Based on that you’d have to say a Rabbitohs v Raiders GF is not a ridiculous thought. They are momentum teams and playing through is better for them than a week off

2020-10-08T19:29:38+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


Almost classic Stockholm Syndrome here...

2020-10-08T11:07:41+00:00

Gods Country

Guest


Really couldn’t have been handled any worse . When you look at the outcomes in other states , Chairman Dan has made an absolute cluster F of the whole thing . But the dummies will lap up his propaganda like homeless kittens.

2020-10-08T11:05:41+00:00

Walter Black

Guest


Far from illogical my dear big mig, Firstly any team with a bye at this crucial time of the year has a massive advantage over those teams having to kick the heck out of each other just to get through to the next round and history has proven this to be so. After a none stop season (barring the covid suspension) and one with arguably higher intensity games (because of rule changes), that advantage is even more pronounced this year than ever before. Its also true that teams ending the regular season in the top 4 tend to be stronger teams than those in the bottom half of the eight and so again this supports the view that those "bottom of the eight" are less likely to make it to the big dance. Now multiply that chance by 2 as you need 2 "bottom of the eight" teams to achieve that feat and the odds are very heavily stacked against a Rabbitohs vs Raiders GF as David Predicted. Of course, anything can and often does happen which is why we love our Rugby League but the odds are against it. As for the Broncos winning the spoon or Panthers winning the premiership, neither of those things has one dot of relevance to my argument.

2020-10-08T10:30:58+00:00

Eelsalmighty

Roar Rookie


(semi) Desperate times call for desperate measures, and so on that note I placed a bet on the Bunnies, thereby virtually guaranteeing Parra the win.

2020-10-08T09:32:54+00:00

ppa19696837

Roar Rookie


You mean you hope they can get revenge without the aid of the ref like the GF which they still couldn’t capitalize on!! Or you want more ref assistance just like the grand final but hopefully this time that will capitalize on the refs help? Maybe Soliola will actually take out Keary for the whole game after attacking his legs on a charge down? https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/roosters-were-robbed-in-grand-final-just-like-raiders-refs-boss-20191102-p536vg.html

2020-10-08T09:23:13+00:00

Big Mig

Roar Rookie


What were the odds at the beginning of 2020 that Broncos would win the wooden spoon and Panthers win the Premiership. Your logic of odds is illogical.

2020-10-08T08:18:50+00:00

Succhi

Roar Rookie


I’ll go the green double too. Roosters look tired, especially Keary. And I think Souths have got the slightly better players in important positions.

2020-10-08T05:35:41+00:00

Randy

Roar Rookie


The Raiders will be banking on being fitter and fresher than the Roosters. They have been coming over the top of sides in the final 30 minutes of games and apparently only concede 2 points per game between the 60 and 80 min mark. I wonder if this will be their tactic again? let the roosters come hard in the first 40 and then run over the top of them later in the game. Roosters of course are not the Sharks or Bulldogs or Dragons... If the Roosters get out to a big lead I don't think the Raiders have the execution in attack to run them down. Both games could go either way.

2020-10-08T05:31:00+00:00

DP Schaefer

Roar Rookie


:thumbup: well said!

2020-10-08T05:24:24+00:00

Randy

Roar Rookie


and an absolute BS sinbinning of Simonson

2020-10-08T05:03:52+00:00

Birdy

Roar Rookie


Mary, sorry to jump in on this article, but where is your article on the women's comp? Back to this article, raiders and bunnies 18 + both games.

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