Coach's Corner issue 2: What hope for the Waratahs?

By Nicholas Bishop / Expert

With the Waratahs having shipped over 100 points in the first two rounds of Super Rugby AU, questions understandably revolved around the root causes of their problems and how they might be resolved.

They ranged from the general to the specific.

Zenn asked plaintively, “How can the Waratahs improve?” with Tight-head adding, “Where the hell does Rob Penney go from here?”

Shed raised the issue of recruitment and development: “Interested to know your overall thoughts on the first two performances of the Waratahs, and if they got their recruitment and retentions plans wrong?”

The spectres of a more specific problem were raised by Zenn: “What can the Wallabies do about the shortage of Wallaby available locks, with Tahs locks and Seru [Uru of the Reds] being imported players?”

FEFS pinpointed the lineout drive, an area where the Waratahs really suffered on defence against the Brumbies: “I’ve seen a lot in the press (again) lately about the maul – mostly against (still). The basis of a lot of this is the ‘obstruction’ by players at the front end. What’s the difference between this as a ‘problem’ and the protection given to the ball in a ruck which is accepted?”

Let’s try and wrap these different issues up (hopefully) within one answer. The issue of the Waratahs’ recruitment and development plan over recent years is clearly at the heart of the problems they are experiencing in 2021.

When you recall that New South Wales could have fielded an entire pack of Wallaby internationals, or established Super Rugby forwards (Tom Robertson/Paddy Ryan – Tatafu Polota-Nau/Damien Fitzpatrick – Sekope Kepu – Rob Simmons – Tom Staniforth – Jed Holloway – Michael Hooper – Michael Wells) who have played for them over the last couple of seasons, it is easy to see how catastrophic the losses to their talent base have been.

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There is no veteran leadership in the 2021 side, and only two forwards from the current selection, Angus Bell and Jack Dempsey, would stand a chance of getting into the previous set of forwards.

The shortage of talent is nowhere more evident than at lock, and I want to look at the maul defence in relation to the involvement of the NSW big men in the second row and blindside flanker.

Here is the beginning of the Brumbies’ final lineout drive try:

There is no penetration by any of the Waratahs through the Brumbies’ blocking front, and the Waratah forward with the toughest and most aggressive reputation in the tight exchanges, Lachie Swinton, is defending away from the ball on the blindside corner:

As soon as the drive starts to move forward, he has to retire and re-join from the back, and that is a sure sign of failure for the defensive side. The inability of the Tahs to get on the ball was a recurrent theme throughout the half-minute that the maul lasted, and in the match as a whole:

With Swinton and Sam Caird constantly breaking off from contact and re-joining, there was no resistance to the Brumbies’ onward march to the try-line:

There is a ready point of contrast, in the way the Brumbies handled the same task versus the Force in Round 1:

Brumbies lock Cadeyrn Neville immediately reaches around the receiver, Jeremy Thrush, to get hands on the ball-carrier in the second tier, and he does everything in his power to maintain contact throughout the duration of the drive:

The two snapshots are 15 seconds apart, with the maul going first left, then right – but Neville always stays in contact with the ball-carrier, and rightly gets his reward at the end of the play:

The issue of the lineout drive as a form of organised obstruction is highlighted by the modern practice of backs joining the drive after it crosses the five-metre line, as in the second clip.

Play ahead of the ball is an art in itself in rugby, and it exists in all areas of the game – at the scrum or ruck (after the ball has been hooked or placed), in the use of decoy runners on attacking plays, in support play, in defence of high kicks or on box kick exits. It’s a part and parcel of the game, and it is here to stay.

It’s been a dire start to 2021 for the Waratahs. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Seasoned Roar veterans Mzilikazi and Harry Jones have both asked about the use of box kicks over the past couple of weeks.

“The box kick is here to stay: can you demonstrate by video where it is best used? What are the organisational considerations for the team executing the halfback box kick, so that the best possible outcome from the chasers eventuates?” said Mzilikazi.

The best box-kicker in Australia, by a long way, is Nic White of the Brumbies. I looked at that part of his game after the first match of the 2020 Bledisloe Cup series, illustrating how intelligently he used the wind to manipulate the All Blacks’ backfield defence.

In the first half with the wind against, White hung the ball up in the air to pull the wingers or fullback forward and induce an error:

In the second period, he used the wind behind to go for length and outkick the defensive backfield:

An expert box-kicker will look to either squeeze or stretch the space between the defensive line and backfield, and make good use of the elements on the day.

When the weather does not play a part, White has the knack of placing the ball in the landing zone where the defensive receiver least wants to see it – the five-metre corridor:

Waratahs fullback Jack Maddocks does not know whether to catch, get forced into touch and give up the lineout throw; or leave, and allow the ball to bounce. He chooses the latter, and the result is a big territory gain for the Brumbies.

Nic White: expert box-kicker. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Numpty drew attention to the scrums from the game between the Reds and the Rebels.

“How were the Reds and Rebels approaching scrum time? Spider-cam revealed a stark contrast in how they were packing, with the Reds square and tight and the Rebels props setting very wide with much of their weight on the flankers,” he asked.

It is always one for the scrum connoisseur when the overhead shot is available, and this game was no exception. In fact, the situation was by no means as clear-cut as Numpty implied. Here is the first scrum of the game:

In real-time, it looks like Rebels loosehead prop Cabous Eloff (he of the infamous pink budgie smugglers) is angling in and forcing the scrum across the field. In reality, the Reds’ set-up had a strong influence on Eloff’s alignment:

Before the front rows engage, the Reds’ tighthead, Taniela Tupou, and hooker, Alex Mafi, are positioned to close the space around Rebels hooker Jordan Uelese and pinch in on him. Eloff has to adopt a sharper angle to remain in contact with Tupou.

There is no doubt that this was a Reds tactic to offset the enormous power of Uelese, who is by far the strongest scrummaging hooker in Australia. This became obvious at the Rebels’ next feed, when Uelese simply powered past Tupou and on through Mafi:

Uelese’s presence was sorely missed when he went off for Ed Craig. With all the same front-rowers bar Uelese on the field, the outcome was completely different:

Unlike Uelese, Craig simply cannot resist the pressure of the pinch and is helpless in the power of the vice:

It was a real education in the importance of a strong scrumming presence at hooker in the modern game.

Jordan Uelese on international duty. (Photo by Paul Kane/Getty Images)

Steven Harris asked, “Nick, how is the decision of taking a kick at penalty goal or going for the potential seven points arrived at?”

Most of these decisions are part of a playing policy which is agreed between coaches and players before the opening whistle ever sounds. So there is probably no point in blaming Michael Hooper for making these decisions in the heat of the moment with the Wallabies!

In the cycle before the 2015 World Cup, Ireland in the northern hemisphere and South Africa in the south deliberately began to pass up goal-kicking opportunities in order to exploit the strength of their driving lineouts in the opposition red zone (goal-line out to the 22m). Other South African-coached sides, like the Brumbies under Jake White, quickly followed suit.

Research showed that in certain field positions, the chances of goal-kicking success dropped dramatically. Those zones included any kick from 40 metres out from the goal-line or more, or in the left or right 15-metre zones closer to the goal-line.

So, if we go back to the Brumbies game against the Waratahs as a sample, there were four potential kicks from centre-field on or beyond the 40-metre line, and another three in the wide 15m zones. The Brumbies refused all of them, opting for the driving lineout instead.

Whether to kick for goal or not often divides fan opinion. (Photo by Stu Forster/Getty Images)

JD Kiwi turned attention to the Six Nations, asking, “How did England’s mental skills let them down against Wales and what should Eddie do about it? How does Wales view England and what will that win mean to the people?”

Firstly, the easy part. A win over England at any sport, but especially rugby, always matters to the people of Wales. There is a bounce in the step of every returnee to work on a Monday morning after a win – if they are allowed to return to work, of course!

The failure of England’s mental skills is probably the most worrying takeaway from the loss to Wales for Eddie Jones. It was a game they had to win in order to be in with a chance of retaining the Six Nations championship, but they switched off entirely not once, but twice during the game.

On the first occasion, there was a claim that the referee, Pascal Gauzere, did not allow time for England to reorganize fully after warning England for repeated offences at the breakdown.

If you look at the wide shot, however, just as Gauzère waves time on and Dan Biggar launches a cross-kick out to the left, one half of the England defence is clearly organised:

The defence out to the left is already numbered up and ready, but out to the right it has not moved past the far post en route towards try-scorer Josh Adams. The boxing saying, “Face your opponent, and defend yourself at all times”, is appropriate. England had only themselves to blame.

A different version of the same inconsistency was at the heart of Wales’ third try, a quick tapped penalty taken by scrumhalf Kieran Hardy which you can see on the above highlights reel at 3:45.

Fullback Elliott Daly breaks the cardinal rule and turns his back on the scrumhalf before a shot at goal has been signalled by the ref:

Those are mental breakdowns of the kind that make you wonder whether Eddie Jones still has the power to motivate and develop his charges effectively.

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The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2021-03-08T19:48:40+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Ah. I see what you did there Jez. :happy:

2021-03-08T12:57:37+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


My front row years may have been spent on the right side of the scrum. :stoked:

AUTHOR

2021-03-08T11:24:44+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Cheers Jez. Did a loose-head do you dirt in a previous life? :stoked:

AUTHOR

2021-03-08T11:24:16+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


It's not an issue of strength though Hoy. The loose-head has only one shoulder to push against, so if his opposite number drops inside he has to recourse but to follow him. It is tight-head who basically shapes the scrum.

2021-03-08T03:17:56+00:00

Hoy

Roar Guru


Thanks Jez.

2021-03-08T01:07:07+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Hoy, not driving straight is a penalty purely because it's not something the opposition can do anything about. Sure you can hold my head but my angle is determined by where I place my hips which you can't control. Normally if there is any doubt as to what happened the referee should penalise the loosehead (they are evil and like the liver deserve to be punished) but in the instance Nic has shared here it's very clearly Tupou angling in.

2021-03-08T00:19:57+00:00

Hoy

Roar Guru


Isn't that the fight for the front row to stay straight though? You are either strong enough to hold the man straight, or not? True, if he can't hold Thor, then he automatically, physically, can't help angle in due to that, but then, that should be a penalty against... Well done Thor.

2021-03-07T23:56:18+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


To be fair to Grey, his defence design was convoluted around the structural weaknesses of his head coach’s selections.

2021-03-07T23:47:08+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Perhaps not pedant enough. The original comment, (from a serial axe-grinder) used the term PI, which in common parlance means Pacific Islander. Fiji is a Pacific island, no?

2021-03-07T23:38:56+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other Leg

Roar Guru


Or MacQueen for that matter?

2021-03-07T07:36:00+00:00

Bobbles

Guest


i reckon Fardy and Higginbotham would have been the perfect backrow with Poey. Chekka blew it as he had a personal clash with Higgers and he had another one with Fardy soon after.

AUTHOR

2021-03-07T06:48:51+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Hi Keith. New Zealand sides used to employ 'walk-in' lineouts a few years ago, but only when the oppo was not properly set up and in no position to dispute a quick throw. If they are already set up there is no advantage ofc - plus refs tend to be a lot more starchy about declaring lineout numbers than they used to be, which means you have to be 'set' first. From a youngster's view point, he'll learn more about the mechanics of the lineout if the coach can allow it to set first, then move around.

2021-03-06T19:47:42+00:00

Keith (no longer) of WA

Roar Rookie


Hey Nick... I'm a crusty ex player and not up with the rules or tactics at present. My son is playing and he's a lifter in the line out and the way he is being coached seems a little off to me. Essentially the team is being told to have the jumper stand 3-4 steps outside of the lineout and then on the call run to that forward/middle/rear pod. The effect is that by the time he arrives a) the opposition have seen him run 3 paces to where it's going, b) he is stopping in the lineout from a sprint so is flat footed and not actually jumping as he doesn't have time to do anything more than just straighten his legs. My understanding is that you have to be in the line at the lineout to be considered a participant but I can't for the life of me find anything hard and fast that says if what they are doing is wrong (besides dumb)..... Can you comment on this?

2021-03-06T16:13:07+00:00

The Forcefield

Roar Rookie


Poco, in my experience, 6s and 7s throw decent lineout ball, being usually good with their hand-eye co-rdination. I wouldn't be putting a prop on the sideline to throw, as often needed to add weight to stop the driving maul. I also can't think of any professional team that has used anyone other than the hooker to throw. I think it's a bit like saying a second rower shouldn't jump if they aren't good at it. It just comes with the position, or they don't get to that level. As others have said, JU is a little weak in that department. Nicholas, I'm not sure I agree with your analysis of the Reds v Rebels scrum. The hooker is never blamed for loosing a scrum. Angling in on the front row is a problem for the props to deal with (and I'd argue Toupo was scrummaging illeagally based on the spider cam video). The hooker's job is to hook the ball, and when their foot is in the air in the act of hooking (yes, they still have to hook to secure the ball, even with the usually dubious feed), it always gives the non-feeding scrum a second or two of 8 men v 7 men (though in this instance it was 7 v 7). You can't blame the hooker - that's the job of the bookends, locks, and 8. Also, this was the only scrum that went backwards for the Rebels if I recall, and it was because Toupo came back on after being taken off after an average first half (having been owned a couple of times by the Rebels loosie) fresh and with a point to prove. In that clip, looks like the Rebels 6, 8 and 20 half stand up, and then the locks do as well, and they just kinda give up and let the scrum walk backwards. Very strange really. I guarantee you the match review session wouldn't have blamed the hooker, who was likely hooking for the ball at the point of capitulation. The match stats show the Rebels did well at scrum time overall. The rookie benchie did okay playing most of the game for the injured Wallabies starting hooker. * Scrums won: Rebels 9/10, Reds 1/1 https://www.espn.com/rugby/matchstats?gameId=593074&league=289272

AUTHOR

2021-03-06T07:15:39+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Thanks SMI.

2021-03-06T03:41:58+00:00

Zenn

Roar Rookie


Sorry to be a boring pedant but players of Fijian ancestry are Melanesian whereas as Tongans, Samoans and Maori are Polynesian.

2021-03-05T22:19:42+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Yeah, sure. Agree we want to see improvement but that's all I'm wanting to see. I'm not expecting any wins, just little improvements over the course of the season which reading the comments sounds like we saw some last night.

2021-03-05T22:15:23+00:00

stillmissit

Roar Guru


Nick, Darren Coleman is also a strong contender who never seemed to come into the stage lighting. It is a common theme with us Aussies we do not trust or develop our own and can fawn over anyone from another country. Yet my time working for US companies showed that many Aussies working in the US were very successful.

2021-03-05T22:08:50+00:00

stillmissit

Roar Guru


Jez, agree with part of your statement. Judge Penney at the end of this season ie let's see genuine improvement that warrants keeping him on.

2021-03-05T21:55:14+00:00

Adsa

Roar Rookie


No one tell me to Pierce off 'expletive' knuckle. (Then punching sounds). And the rude started with F.

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