Collingwood's salary cap mystery

By Les Zig / Roar Guru

One of football’s biggest mysteries – well, at least as far as I’m concerned – is how Collingwood tangled up their salary cap as they did.

Given Collingwood’s terrible start to the 2021 home-and-away season, we’ve seen some in the media – such as Gerard Whateley and Kane Cornes – now revisit Collingwood’s 2020 trade debacle, almost like they’re only now putting two (the trade debacle) and two (Collingwood’s current list) together to work out the equation (2+2=5) sucks.

But who’s really asked the hard questions about how the cap got in such a mess?

On Footy Classified, Eddie McGuire claimed that the cap is now in great shape. Could that be because they now have 24 players (including rookies) who’ve played less than 50 games on their list?

Seventeen of those players have played less than seven games. It’s a farcically imbalanced list and, as we see retirements from the likes of older brigade over the next two years, it’s going to get worse.

Eddie McGuire. (Photo by Darrian Traynor/Getty Images)

I can understand and appreciate the bottom dropping out of clubs who’ve sat in long periods of contention, and haven’t had access to early picks.

It’ll inevitably happen to Richmond when the likes of Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Tom Lynch and company retire.

These players are more than champions. They’re special talents. You don’t just replace them with the next rank of draftees.

The same happened to Hawthorn following their three-peat as Luke Hodge, Sam Mitchell, Jarryd Roughead, Jordan Lewis, Brian Lake, and company left the club.

Hawthorn’s attempts to top-up show that you can’t just find replacements anywhere. The same occurred with Brisbane following their three-peat.

It’s even happened to clubs who haven’t experienced premiership success.

Through the 2000s and early 2010s, St Kilda and Western Bulldogs were perennial bridesmaids.

The Dogs were able to finally put together a list that won a flag in 2016. The Saints haven’t been so lucky.

After grand finals in 2009 and 2010, they plummeted from contention, and are still struggling to rebuild.

Collingwood mounted a premiership assault in 2002-2003, fell out of contention in 2004-2005, and then were straight back up into the finals in 2006.

They rebuilt on the run, transitioning from one generation (the Nathan Buckley, Scott Burns, Sav Rocca era) to the next (the Scott Pendlebury, Dane Swan, Travis Cloke era), culminating in flag success in 2010.

(Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

That squad’s suffered some depreciation due to the way the careers of several players, once filled with such promise, either petered out, or imploded.

Dale Thomas was among the best players in the league in 2010-2011, but was never the same after he injured his ankle in 2012. Heritier Lumumba was a brilliant rebounding defender who could play on smalls or talls, but his career tapered away at Melbourne.

Chris Dawes was a good, solid prospect. He didn’t even seem that at Melbourne.

Ben Reid was a stellar centre-half back and a one-time All Australian, but he suffered chronic injuries in the second half of his career.

This is a big list and it’s meant that some of these players aren’t regarded as highly as they might’ve been, or they’re not recognised for how good they were – well, in 2010-11 at least.

But during that period, they were young, exciting talents that you would’ve imagined would go on to have accomplished careers.

Coming out of that era, Collingwood’s salary cap would’ve needed some finagling to fit in these young guns, address the potential of their futures, and work out how Collingwood could best keep them together over an extended period.

(Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

But over Nathan Buckley’s first five years as coach, Collingwood traded out, retired or delisted marquee names from that premiership squad. Also, free agent acquisitions – who would’ve commanded overs because of the very nature of free agency – didn’t work out.

This list includes (but is not limited to):
• 2011: Leigh Brown, Leon Davis
• 2012: Chris Tarrant, Sharrod Wellingham, Chris Dawes
• 2013: Andrew Krakouer, Ben Johnson, Alan Didak, Heath Shaw, Dale Thomas, Darren Jolly
• 2014: Quinten Lynch, Nick Maxwell, Heritier Lumumba, Dayne Beams, Luke Ball
• 2015: Clinton Young
• 2016: Dane Swan, Travis Cloke, Alan Toovey, and Nathan Brown

You have premium names in that group, such as Dane Swan, Travis Cloke, Alan Didak, Dale Thomas, and Heath Shaw.

Players such as Darren Jolly, Dayne Beams, Ben Reid, Luke Ball, etc. also would’ve been on big-to-biggish money.

During this time, Collingwood entered, explored, and set up camp in a recruiting wilderness. The free agents – such as Clint Young, Quinten Lynch, and Jordan Russell – didn’t work out.

Neither did early draft picks, such as Matthew Scharenberg and Nathan Freeman.

Both were part of the draft class that includes Josh Kelly, Marcus Bontempelli, and Dom Sheed. These guys would be on handy contracts.

Collingwood didn’t face that pressure of burgeoning salary demands because their selections didn’t develop to demand those pay increases.

Right around 2016-2017, Collingwood should have had tons of room in the cap. I just can’t see where money would’ve went, outside of Scott Pendlebury and, to a lesser extent, Steele Sidebottom.

(Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

Then, in 2017, Graeme Allan led the trade charge to net the likes of Daniel Wells and Chris Mayne for overs, but that was just two players. Their salaries were big given their profiles at that time, but not big in the context of top-paid players in the league.

Certainly, they weren’t earning as much as the likes of Dane Swan and Travis Cloke (deservedly) would’ve.

From 2017 to 2020, Collingwood finally had young talent blossom into marquee players – notably Brodie Grundy, Darcy Moore, Jordan de Goey and, to a lesser extent, Brayden Maynard.

Jeremy Howe also evolved into an elite intercept defender. Levi Greenwood must’ve been brought in on a decent contract, but definitely not top end.

(Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

But there are still exits that should offer some counterbalance: Jarryd Blair, Alex Fasolo, Sam Murray, Tyson Goldsack, and James Aish. These players would all be on (you’d imagine) middling contracts.

But there was little coming in – Jordan Roughead was one, but given he was struggling to get game time at the Dogs, his contract would’ve been modest. Then, of course, there was Dayne Beams.

Ben Reid’s last seven seasons at the club netted 57 games: 2 (2020), 8 (2019), 6 (2018), 15 (2017), 17 (2016), 5 (2015), and 4 (2014). Yet, allegedly, he was one of the top-paid players at the club in his penultimate year.

That certainly couldn’t have been as a result of a contract commensurate with his output.

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Adam Treloar arrived at Collingwood in 2016, yet we know that his contract was constantly back-ended, until we get to his five-year contract, now worth $950,000 per season.

Looking at that decade, it’s hard to understand where the money went. Lots more quality went out of the club than came into it.

We know Collingwood re-signed the likes of Jaidyn Stephenson, Tom Phillips, and Tom Langdon to contracts you would consider inflated given their standing in the game at that time of their careers.

It really begs the two questions of how long Collingwood has been back-ending contracts, and how many players they’ve signed or re-signed to overs because of this strategy, believing it’s a situation they could continue to massage – until they couldn’t.

That’s another factor worth consideration: what prompted this sudden desire to become financially accountable?

Was it because the AFL was slashing caps across the competition? We can point to that as the motivation, but given Collingwood’s salary cap tango, it feels more like a reason they’re going to hide behind.

Could it be that the coaching brains trust simply decided – as they did previously – this list wouldn’t get them a flag, and this was a time to proactively rebuild, only to be short-changed in trading because of their weak hand?

Did they commit to the exit of players who could’ve been retained if not for damaging those relationships?

As a minor aside, I am also still curious how Jaidyn Stephenson, a pick No. 6, a Norwich Rising Star winner in 2018, was determined to no longer be a fit for a club as it tried to move into the future and rejuvenate the list.

This would be like Carlton deciding to trade out Sam Walsh while continuing to rebuild.

I don’t get any of this.

As much as I try to work it out, I can’t.

I think about it a lot. I’ve heard and read and considered all the counters, all the explanations, all the justifications, but the whole affair reeks; yet hasn’t been investigated the way it should.

There was fire here. Lots of it.

But media just drove by, and are only now idly perusing the ashes – arguably too late to perform the needed forensics.

Supporters commented on it, but let it burn. This was a bushfire and Collingwood somehow managed to convince everybody that it was just a barbecue that ran amok.

Something happened here that drove the club to act immediately, but left them flustered enough that the likes of list manager Ned Guy, then-football manager Geoff Walsh, CEO Mark Anderson, coach Nathan Buckley, and then-president Eddie McGuire, to all come out and offer different versions of why exactly Collingwood did what they did.

Surely if there was a simple universal truth, that’s all we would’ve heard.

Instead, we live in the smoke.

The Crowd Says:

2021-05-23T11:11:31+00:00

krutto

Guest


There seems to be a lot of bad decisions made over the years.

2021-05-08T04:41:32+00:00

Maxy

Roar Rookie


:thumbup:

2021-05-08T04:35:03+00:00

George Apps

Roar Rookie


Thanks for the explanation.

2021-05-05T10:04:07+00:00


I expect WHE to go. Oliver Henry will take his place in the forward line - possibly even this week.

2021-05-05T00:05:13+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Trade was an outright salary dump. Those others wouldn’t have cleared enough cap toom

2021-05-05T00:01:05+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


How exactly is Les ‘bagging his own club’?

2021-05-04T23:26:35+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Clubs can go into points deficit. The points they don’t have this year will come off their first round pick the following year. They will want to pick up points so that doesn’t happen

2021-05-04T21:47:31+00:00

Charlie Keegan

Roar Guru


None I hope. Trust in the club admin needs to be restored before they can start pulling that stuff

2021-05-04T21:46:52+00:00

Charlie Keegan

Roar Guru


Basically what happened with treloar. They kept re-negotiating his deal to pay for players like Mayne, and then Beams. Then he ended up on a five year deal at about 950,000 dollars which was painfully high for the pies so they ousted him after paying him 600k for the first few years of his deal.

2021-05-04T21:41:27+00:00

Maxy

Roar Rookie


If a player signs a 5 year deal say at 700k a year clubs can pay players a different amount each year of that contract,so he might get say 500k his first few years but then his last 2 he would be on 1.2 mill or whatever it is to pay the 3.5 mill contract,they can do it in the first couple of years also thats when you would here heavily frontended contract,it works to balance out salary cap spending

2021-05-04T12:59:18+00:00

okapiman

Roar Rookie


It is impossible without being inner sanctum to advise precisely how Collingwood got there. The 2020 trade period showed the facts. The first fact is that Collingwood was well over 1M in contracted committed salary cap for 2021. In summary Collingwood had to shed over 1M in excess salary to NOT be in breach of the AFL rules. The need to shed over 1M in salary accentuated the desperate trades Collingwood made. However to rub salt into the wound for Collingwood even after shedding Stevenson & Co, Collingwood could still not settle the Treoar deal until the Bulldogs agreed to pay an extra 300k to Collingwood in 2021. So this year the Bulldogs are paying Treloar 900k, and the 1.5M commitment Collingwood has to pay the Bulldogs is amortized over 4 years not 5, not the accepted 300k over 5 years. So Collingwood on average for the next 4 years will pay the bulldogs 375k per year. The second major element not discussed is that Collingwood is 800 points short if Daicos goes No 1 as expected. This pushes all of Collingwoods draft picks to the end of the 2021 draft and leaves Collingwood in deficit for the AFL draft of 2022. So Collingwood must I assume trade players to make up the points deficit. If Collingwood doesn’t trade good players they will not get a decent player (besides Daicos) from the draft for 3 years. The good news for non Collingwood fans is that unless Daicos is G Ablett from day 1, Collingwood has many many years in the wilderness. Bucks or no Bucks. In the 2021 trade – Collingwood I believe has no choice but to trade out key players and then target a free agent (can’t use picks) to “pretend” to Collingwood fans that there is good reason they should sign up for their membership in 2022. The 2021 trade period will be a false dawn for Collingwood fans, they need to wrap some quality around the Daicos’s.

2021-05-04T11:48:48+00:00

Footyguy

Guest


Honestly Hoskin elliott should be traded. Hoskin elliott has been largely mediocre and should not be a starter in the 22 imho. He would be great at somewhere like carlton or hawthorn or essendon or adelaide I just think his time at collingwood is done Hoskin elliott was really good in 2017-2019 And has been treading water since, he just needs to find a spark Hes 28 or 29, he probably won't be part of collingwoods next premiership I can't believe they traded out stephenson when they could have traded out hoskin elliott, jamie elliott, josh thomas all old players that have largely underperformed moreso than stephenson ever did

2021-05-04T11:45:40+00:00

Footyguy

Guest


Brayden sier is perfect trade bait Trade him to hawthorn Clarkson would make him good Or north melbourne Or gold coast Or fremantle to support nat fyfe, cerra and serong and brayshaw

2021-05-04T10:05:07+00:00

Kevo

Roar Rookie


Collingwood have senior players who would be excellent top ups at other clubs vying for a premiership, but at Collingwood current situation they looking like they're either struggling or not far off their used by date. Collectively they look too slow to plug all the yawning gaps. Sidey and Pendles would walk into any team still. Wouldn't Geelong have loved them 6 months ago. But nowhere near their best at Pie land. Howe - still a great player but injury prone. And was big d head with Sidey last year with the great covid underpants mystery. Cox - be handy in a fully firing team but struggling in the 2s Moore - gun! Now is not the time for the CHF experiment. There's no one to kick the ball to him. Pies need to be careful and not make him disillusioned, where he could follow his old man's footsteps. Elliot - handy but injury prone and hasn't done a lot since his injury in 2017. Maynard - down on confidence and mongrel and is being exposed. Mihocek - a courageous 3rd tall forward played out of position mostly. Grundy - great on his day but overall a handy ruckman. DeGoey - has been wanting for emotional maturity since he arrived at the club. Once the court case is behind him he'll be a gun wherever he ends up, hopefully not in jail. Crisp - one of the most consistent performers Hoskin Elliot, Thomas, Mayne, Greenwood, Magden have had their moments but the sun is setting. Sier could be in the above category too, youth may save him. A long way to go before we know if Keane, Cameron or Kelly will be any good. Quaynor and Daicos are showing plenty but the jury is out on the rest of the youngsters. I think play the youth and hopefully our older fellas can get on board with mentoring for the future and not become disillusioned with their premiership window closing.

2021-05-04T07:33:33+00:00

COB

Roar Rookie


Sorry Les that everybody else doesn't share your obsession with Collingwood. I have only been on Roar about 8 months but must have come across 10 very similar articles by you. Most of us football followers and media don't care how Collingwood got into the state they are in. As for comparing Stephenson to Walsh give us a break. And I highly doubt that Aish, Blair and Murray in particular would have been on middling contracts as you stated. Collingwood stuffed up their salary cap. We all know that. Eddie is gone which is good. Now look forward to the development of some of your young players and the acquisition of Nick Daicos and possibly a free as agent. You can rehash past mistakes as many times as you like but that won't change it. You also seem to conveniently ignore how heavily hit by injuries Collingwood were for about 3 or 4 consecutive years. Probably cost you a premiership.

2021-05-04T07:26:38+00:00

Chanon

Roar Rookie


George go ask Ned Guy l’m sure he would explain it better than myself!

2021-05-04T07:11:40+00:00

George Apps

Roar Rookie


What exactly is a back-ended contract?

2021-05-04T06:50:18+00:00

SeektheTruth

Roar Rookie


Correct Kevin. And 10 years as a coach is enough! After ten years coaching, you’d think there would be something positive to show. Instead, disposal efficiency is the worst I’ve seen, player commitment is extremely low, salary cap debacle, top trade picks used like Monopoly money, game plan hasn’t changed, NO forward line, disgraceful handling of racism, constant feeding supporters with gratuitous comments, etc, etc. Buckley has to go but won’t because those in positions of power are weak/incompetent.

2021-05-04T06:43:04+00:00

SeektheTruth

Roar Rookie


I agree but some people at Collingwood need to be held to account. So far, no one has lost their job over this debacle!

2021-05-04T03:32:48+00:00

Kevo

Roar Rookie


Another good piece Les. I think Eddie's under pinning philosophies are you can buy success, you can buy your way out of trouble, and you can also spin (bs, deny) your way out of trouble. Way too may players paid way too much overs. Hoping for short term gain without long term vision, wisdom, integrity, accountability, transparency. Chickens coming home to roost. Obviously Eddie also did a lot of great work for the club and community but about 10 years too long in the job.

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