Where's Klemmer and why Cleary: Two of my greatest gripes ahead of Origin

By Joe Frost / Editor

State of Origin is a wonderful time of year, presenting an opportunity for most footy fans south of the Tweed to be disappointed by a completely different team than the one we cheer for week-in, week-out – and, as they say, change is as good as a holiday.

But change can also be scary and upsetting, so I’m here to offer a bit of comfort by way of consistency.

In the last few years, I’ve had two pretty major issues come interstate-series time and – would you believe it – they’ve both reared their head again ahead of the opening match of 2021.

So here are two of my greatest hits for Origin, digitally remastered with the latest facts and figures.

Nathan Cleary isn’t unproven at this level, he just isn’t up to it
It was somewhat lost in the commotion of the ‘worst Queensland team in history’ securing the 2020 series just who won the Brad Fittler Medal.

I mean, it’s a pretty hollow piece of silverware to receive when you’ve seen Daly Cherry-Evans hoist the major trophy.

Nonetheless, I was stunned – stunned – that Nathan Cleary was declared NSW’s best player.

Credit where credit’s due, he had an absolute blinder in Game 2, but was largely absent in the two matches his team lost.

It can be tough to name the best player in a losing side, but somehow the Blues brains trust decided it was Cleary – their halfback and vice-captain who had one good game out of three, and who failed to demand the ball and win the series after the actual skipper, James Tedesco, was ruled out midway through the decider.

In a nutshell, Cleary didn’t do his job. Yet he was the team’s best player over three matches?

(Photo by Jono Searle/Getty Images)

For the record, with 424 total metres at an average of 141 per game and 224 post-contact – both the most of any forward in the 2020 Origin series – as well as four tackle breaks, prop Daniel Saifiti absolutely did his job and deserved the gong.

Heading into last year’s Game 2, in a piece titled “Nathan Cleary’s protected status in the NSW side has become embarrassing”, I highlighted those famous stats that we Cleary knockers loved to wheel out: “the Blues’ halfback has a grand total of zero tries, zero try assists, zero line breaks and zero line-break assists”, along with the fact his defence in the Origin arena was suspect at best, with an average of 2.83 missed tackles per game.

He proceeded to shut me up with a match for the ages, but a week’s a long time in footy.

So do you know what his stats are in those critical areas for a halfback after three series and eight games? Zero tries, one try assist, one line break, two line-break assists, and 25 missed tackles.

He’s 1-7 for quality games in the Origin arena, yet there were calls heading into this series for Cleary to be made sole captain of his state. It’s madness.

Nathan Cleary has been the form halfback of the NRL for the past two seasons, but he is not good at Origin football. There, I said it.

Maybe, with basically half his club lining up alongside him, he’ll finally play the series we’ve been waiting years to see from him. Regardless, he’ll be here again next year anyway.

I’d say a lack of quality alternatives will keep Cleary being picked time after time, but the truth lies closer to the fact Brad Fittler seemingly has favourites – which brings me to my next point.

Can you tell us what David Klemmer did wrong, Brad?
Big Klem is done in the Origin arena.

We knew he was in strife when he was dropped-not-dropped in 2019 but the end of his playing days were confirmed last year, when the big man played no part in the interstate series.

As for why, well it’s not because of his stats.

Questioning his omission in a piece last year, I noted “his 1531 post-contact metres are the most in the comp, his 45 offloads are good for second, while his 3626 run metres are fifth-most… hard evidence that, as far as props go, Klemmer is still among the truly elite in the competition.”

While there is a narrative that Klemmer has been disappointing in a Newcastle team that haven’t matched the attitude of 2021 this season, his numbers continue to be in the very top echelon.

(Photo by Tony Feder/Getty Images)

From 200 runs in 12 games this season, Klemmer has made 2017 metres – good for an average of 168.1 per game – with 788 being post-contact. There is only one forward ahead on those stats across the entire NRL, Kiwi James Fisher-Harris.

Klemmer continues to punch out huge numbers in the departments that count for prop forwards, with daylight second among his peers for NSW, yet at 27 he’s seemingly finished as a rep player.

So what gives?

The story goes that when recalled for the aforementioned 2019 series, the firebrand came into camp with a chip on his shoulder – a claim Klemmer denies.

“I came in there with the right attitude and I trained hard like I always do,” he wrote for the Newcastle Herald last October.

“Yeah, I was disappointed to miss out initially for Game 3 after being forced out of Game 2 with my wrist injury but when I got called up, I went into camp to train hard and do a job for the Blues. That was my only focus. To lead from the front for the Blues in the decider.”

For his part, Fittler blamed Klemmer’s omission on the form of – of, not for – his club.

“I think Newcastle in general, the last couple of years, have faded at the back end of the year,” Fittler said.

(Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

“Given the Origin series was at the back end of the year this year, we decided to go another way.

“It’s just about now Newcastle going to that next level.”

Fair enough Brad, but you do realise Daniel Saifiti also plays for Newcastle, right? And you did see that Brisbane came dead last, with just one win after the COVID break, yet Payne Haas was picked.

I noticed Jake Trbojevic got a run, despite Manly winning one of their final nine games of the year to finish 13th. Tyson Frizell got a guernsey too, playing in a St George Illawarra side that finished the season winning three of their last ten games.

The Knights faded, sure, but they were a sight better than the Broncos, Sea Eagles and Dragons – both across the year as a whole, as evidenced by the fact they played finals footy, but also in the last few months as they won five of their last ten.

So my question is: what’s really going on?

I suppose with Klemmer copping a two-game suspension for his 79th-minute hit on Jake’s baby brother, this is all hypothetical anyway.

But I am still curious as to what David Klemmer actually did to see him go from being the first prop named for NSW and Australia to seemingly being forcibly retired from the rep arena.

The Crowd Says:

2021-06-10T02:57:33+00:00

GregM

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mate it is online too. Press "reply" to a comment & the reply may end up 15 replies below it.

2021-06-09T17:06:21+00:00

Intoxigamer

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Well... no comment necessary really

2021-06-09T12:51:31+00:00

Ed Gein

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Well, this certainly aged well.

2021-06-08T23:28:11+00:00

Randy

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Stuart did have Daley next to him in most games who was no slouch in origin. That's why i like the Cleary/Luai combination, both play for the same club. I agree Johns was better and could dictate terms (as wally loves to say) better than any half I've seen. Strangely a lot of people put Johns and Fitler as their halves in their all-time NSW team however they actually have a poor record playing in the halves together.

2021-06-08T22:21:21+00:00

jimmmy

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Three series two wins. What the hell do you want from him?

2021-06-08T22:03:24+00:00

Nat

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He's the best half NSW had as evidenced by all his NSW starts.. Like Cleary now, he was in a very dominant, premiership winning team. Although, you may have helped my point. If Pearce wasn't the protected species he was back then, could Reyno /Hodgo had more success outside of just 2014?

2021-06-08T21:51:39+00:00

Nat

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I agree with the premise, Cleary is the best option but at what point does reputation exceed performance? As they saying, winning can cover cracks. Good luck to him, he came into the arena at a time of Qld transition and for all the 'paper' strength of the NSW team they won the 2018 series by goal kicking and the 2019 in the 80th minute. We know what happened last year. Consider the chopping and changing around him in that time, not even the Dally M winner can keep a spot. Was it always everyone else? Your analogy is a bit off. The 8th wasn't deemed good enough, hence he played hooker. He wasn't in line behind a future immortal like Cronk. Lockyer was the best FB in the game, then became the best 5/8.

2021-06-08T21:32:09+00:00

Nat

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I'm not saying Moses is better, I'm saying he's an option. As Joe points out until G2 2020 (5 games), he didn't own any stats either. I can rattle off half a dozen #7 who were never given that grace.

2021-06-08T20:55:06+00:00

The Barry

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Whoops I missed one I think Johns is a far better halfback than Stuart and I think Johns’ highs at Origin exceed Stuart’s, but if you wanted to make a case that Stuart overall performed better than Johns at Origin level, I’m all ears

2021-06-08T13:26:25+00:00

KillaKanga

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:laughing:

2021-06-08T13:09:45+00:00

Don

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And Phillip Sami.

2021-06-08T13:05:02+00:00

Don

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Cam Smith was thinking like he was 33 when he was just 23...

2021-06-08T13:04:49+00:00

Rossi

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He has won 2 from 3 to be fair, and wasn't the first to be outfoxed by the wily old Supercoach

2021-06-08T12:59:00+00:00

Rossi

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When JT first came in to Origin he was criticised for being too passive and letting Lockyer do everything. Cronk had a good few series off the bench before playing halfback for the greatest Origin side ever, and had Slater, JT, Smith with him. Nathan Hindmarsh was criticised as a poor Origin player in his first couple of series but ended up an Origin weapon. Justin Hodges had the worst debut ever and ended up an Origin great. You bang on about Walker and Keary, Keary only played one match but was dreadful despite being in his prime as a 3 time GF winner. Walker also in his prime, too up and down and quiet when it gets tough. Reynolds should have had a good run in the side over Pearce, and I'd be happy with him if say Cleary was in poor form.

2021-06-08T12:57:11+00:00

Mr Right

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Wally Lewis was picked for Qld at the age of 20 in 1979. But it wasn't until he was 23 that people started acknowledging he was a real star. BTW, the Aussie selectors still picked Kenny over him in the 1982 Kangaroos team.

2021-06-08T12:48:01+00:00

Rossi

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"Dude", you need to pick your battles! I don't know what Nathan Cleary ever did to you, but not one comment I've seen agrees that a 23 year old halfback with 2 series wins out of 3 is not up to Origin and shouldn't be selected.

2021-06-08T12:44:35+00:00

Mr Right

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Just remember Craig Bellamy was coaching the Blues against one of greatest origin teams of all time including, Slater, Tate, Hodges, Inglis, Folau, Thurston, Cronk, Price, Cameron Smith, Civoniceva, Thaiday etc. Doesn't matter how good a coach you are, you have to have the cattle to steer them in the right direction.

2021-06-08T12:37:04+00:00

Rossi

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Pearce has never been the best half in the NRL. Hasnwver been as good as Reynolds, even Hodkinson did better than him. Cleary has all the traits you want in a halfback, Pearce had a good running/support game, decent short pass but poor kicking game and game management.

2021-06-08T12:28:16+00:00

Rossi

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The kid was picked ahead of his time with a view to being the long term halfback. He played second fiddle to Jimmy Maloney, and last year did well when NSW forwards did well. Unlike the previous no 7 he actually performed when his forwards laid the platform. You'll be eating your words this series, I'll tell you now this article will not age well whatsoever

2021-06-08T12:26:28+00:00

Mr Right

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Champion players don't always make champion coaches.

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