More Collingwood carnage, no easy answers after Buckley's departure

By Cameron Rose / Expert

The carnage at the Collingwood Football Club continues unabated. They have owned several news cycles since the end of the 2020 season, none of them for positive reasons.

Nathan Buckley had to go, as I wrote at the beginning of May. That much was obvious. You simply don’t get to coach forever, regardless of your status within a club. It was ludicrous that anyone would think otherwise.

It was odd to see respected journalists and footy observers argue the point for Buckley’s contract to continue in recent weeks. Gerard Whateley was almost his PR agent whenever the topic came up on AFL 360, and continued on with that on Tuesday night. One journalist was fawning over Buckley at the press conference yesterday, an embarrassing moment of platitudes.

Because Buckey was so professional in the media, so intelligent, so dignified and respectful, people had forgotten that there comes a moment when your time is simply up. Never had a situation been begging for a clean sweep more than what Collingwood are facing.

If Buckley’s entry into the senior coach role was messy, with Eddie McGuire’s hubris driving premiership-winning Mick Malthouse out of the role to accommodate him, his exit was perfectly smooth.

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Buckley is experienced enough to know, if he removed himself and his emotions from the situation, how the cards were going to fall. And he had intimated at various stages this season that he didn’t necessarily see himself in the role beyond this year or in the longer term.

He had said the opposite of these things too, which betrayed a conflicted mind – we have all had those moments of back-and-forth in our mind when facing a momentous decision.

And from a Collingwood perspective, once it’s over, it’s over. Finish him up immediately. None of this nonsense about coaching out the year, or for another month while they meandered along. A farewell game is acceptable for a long-serving coach and historic figure, and he is getting that accordingly.

The search for a coach can now be full steam ahead. Popular opinion is that only the biggest names will do for such a grand club. Collingwood are no longer the powerhouse they once were – not only are they are no longer the biggest sporting club of any kind in the country, they aren’t even the biggest footy club in their own state.

The Pies have only had 11 full-time senior coaches since 1912, a truly remarkable feat. Nathan Buckley, Mick Malthouse, Tony Shaw, Leigh Matthews, Bob Rose, Tom Hafey, Jock McHale. These are some of the biggest names in the history of the game. The shoes to fill are large. A person of gravitas is required.

The mind immediately goes to Alastair Clarkson and Ross Lyon.

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Clarkson is the most successful premiership coach in the AFL era, still contracted at Hawthorn but with murmurings about Sam Mitchell waiting in the wings. The Hawks have committed numerous failings since the 2015 three-peat, and the time feels right for him to move on.

Lyon, similar to Buckley, hasn’t achieved a premiership as player or coach, but is almost universally respected for his ability to implement a game plan and drive a club to contention. There’s no doubt he would have respect from all quarters the second he walked in the door.

The key to Clarkson and Lyon is they have both the footy and life experience to handle the pressures of Collingwood amid a potential board coup and unprecedented period of stability. All of this with a personality the size of ex-president McGuire mouthing off in his media role too.

But where is the playing list at? Is it an attractive proposition for the next man in the job? After all, this is a team that played finals in 2020.

We generally look five years into the future when assessing these situations. Changes of coach almost always happen with a team down the bottom of the ladder, and it generally takes years to contend from there.

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At the start of the 2026 season, Darcy Moore and Jordan de Goey will be 30, Brodie Grundy, Jack Crisp, Taylor Adams 32, with Brody Mihocek and Jamie Elliott 33 if still going. Scott Pendlebury, Steele Sidebottom, Jeremy Howe and Jordan Roughead will be gone or barely hanging on. That’s their current core.

Who will be in their mid-to-late 20s prime of the current group? Brayden Maynard will be late 20s. Josh Daicos and Isaac Quaynor look like they have what it takes. But there’s precious little else that we can trust right now, despite seeing several green shoots in recent times.

The list assessment and turnover will be fascinating to watch, as it always is in these circumstances. It has already been a blood sport after the Adam Treloar and Jaidyn Stephenson debacle last year, with Collingwood trying to get into the draft. All eyes will be on them again post-season.

Nathan Buckley has had a storied Collingwood career, both as a player and coach. He leaves having gone close but never tasting premiership glory. Hopefully we get to see him in the media, where he can use his penetrating footy mind to make us all smarter.

It does leave the Pies in free fall, and when a club is in this situation it normally takes a decade or more to fully recover. It’s going to be a long road ahead.

The Crowd Says:

2021-06-23T14:28:07+00:00

The Great Poohdini

Guest


Pretty fair assessment of Bucks media cheerleaders. Its actually quiet bizarre considering they’re usually calling for coaches heads. I disagree that we’ll be recovering for a decade. We’ve rebuilt 3 times since 1998 and played off in grand finals not long after each of them. We lost a lot of depth in the last couple of years and not just Stephenson & Treloar. Look at our retirements and delistings and you’ll find a lot of role players who were able to fill gaps and play at a high level. We needed to be injury free just to be competitive this year, such is the state of our depth. Bloodying young kids around quality players is the only way we slowly move back in the direction that we want. Poohdini Out!

2021-06-21T07:06:42+00:00

1dog

Roar Rookie


Are you ok Pete?

2021-06-11T12:17:46+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Williams would sure be loved by the players Mooty

2021-06-11T11:53:35+00:00

Mooty

Roar Rookie


Pete the ideal coach for Collingwood is Mark Williams. Former captain, premiership coach and has put his foot back in the water at Melbourne after some time out. That would suggest he has the desire to be involved again. He was always a passionate Collingwood man when he was there, it only takes a phone call

2021-06-11T09:10:20+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


You’re probably right Mooty and Clarko did say a categorical no to crossing over. Mitchell might just bide his time and take over in 2023.

2021-06-11T09:06:16+00:00

Mooty

Roar Rookie


Pete I feel you are a bit over obsessed with Clarko, always have been. If he breaks his contract to go to Collingwood, then I fear that there are problems at Hawthorn, other than the obvious.

2021-06-11T06:00:07+00:00

Mooty

Roar Rookie


Pete, Collingwood and Lyon would be a good match, both very adept at losing Grand Finals. He has shown over the years that he still coaches in the old fashioned negative way. Would you like to see Collingwood playing like that, kicking 10 goals per game then strangling their opposition. That’s still his game plan. Collingwood can do better

2021-06-10T12:08:00+00:00

Kick to Kick

Roar Rookie


Clarkson has all but definitively said that he will see out his contract at Hawthorn. That takes him out of the loop for either Pies or Blues in 2022. But Sam Mitchell’s contract is up this year and if Clarkson sees out his contract Mitchell is in play. Whichever way it breaks I’d put $s on Mitchell being a senior coach next year, though my unfounded personal opinion is that he’s probably not ready.

2021-06-10T11:39:36+00:00

Blitz

Guest


Simmo was recently extended to 2024. He’s safe!

2021-06-10T10:37:37+00:00

okapiman

Roar Rookie


Pendles is the "class" in Collingwood. Never write off a champion. Plenty in the tank.

2021-06-10T10:10:09+00:00

Chris

Guest


Undoubtedly, Buckley will be paid up till the end of the year and would already know who his replacement/successor is. I don't believe he liked having Graham Wright next to him throughout the season thus far. His facial expressions and body language were very negative. He did not want to feel as if he was being scrutinised. This was McGuire's mistake as this should have happened from the outset. Perhaps therein lies the explanation as to why Malthouse did not accept the appointment given to him in the succession plan.

2021-06-10T10:01:07+00:00

Chris

Guest


No way Jose! Don't want him anywhere near the club! Give me Rhyce Shaw instead.

2021-06-10T09:48:30+00:00

Chris

Guest


Bob Rose's defeats were by far worse-64/66/70!

2021-06-10T09:44:24+00:00

Chris

Guest


Brody Grundy for captain if he doesn't get traded out.

2021-06-10T09:42:50+00:00

nics

Roar Rookie


Ahh yes I recall that. Not a tigers fan but Dusty is a genuine game breaker.

2021-06-10T09:32:47+00:00

Puntroad

Roar Rookie


Not to mention send paddy into the dirt and curl one over the shoulder.

2021-06-10T09:21:48+00:00

Charlie Keegan

Roar Guru


Not captain Jordan de goey?

2021-06-10T08:57:56+00:00


Clark has one problem- Kennett. It seems that Kennett wants to move him on. If Collingwood want Clarkson they should make Mitchell an offer and force Kennett's hand.

2021-06-10T07:17:46+00:00

nics

Roar Rookie


It's not a backhanded compliment at all. Most ball sports are now dominated by athletic, powerful, straight-line-sprinter types. It's nice to see players for whom an instinctive sidestep gives them the time/space to execute a killer pass, while sending fitter/faster/stronger opposition players out for some candy. Compare eg Dusty and Dangerfield. The latter is all run and gun. The former can do that, but also turn out of space and tap to advantage/languidly bite off the cute 30m kick if needed.

2021-06-10T06:48:51+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


If he has the drive, yes he is young enough. Besides normal coaches only last about the same as a president of the USA.

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