Give it a rest haters: Daly Cherry-Evans is awesome

Good player however you can have 2 good players for $1.3 million a year.

The old West Magpies and North Sydney Bears supporters would disagree with you vehemently.

I’m a Manly fan, so judge my following comments with that as a backdrop. I'll be as objective as I can. - DCE did not have a great game in SOO 2. Neither did any of his teammates. Munster, who many ‘experts’ said had to have a blinder for Q’ld to win, had a much poorer game. Fewer tackles, more missed tackles and his ad hoc approach in attack did not work. DCE in a losing side did a lot more - Both DCE and Munster had great SOO series last year, both fantastic in game 3 (which I hate to admit as a NSWelshman) - Q’ld forwards have been totally outplayed buy NSW this SOO series. A lighter and more mobile pack than Q’ld have more than held their own - Again, many so called experts are saying this is the best NSW backline ever. That may be true but too early to say imo, but certainly the most potent I have seen - So Q’ld basically had a forward pack that was outperformed by NSW, and a backline where not 1 Q’ld player close to equalling their NSW counterpart. NSW back 5 far more talented by a country mile - NSW won those critical moments that Q’ld have for years. Why? I don’t know, but perhaps a decade of losing series generally is a good motivator - I don’t understand how any captain could have turned the sinking ship around. DCE communicates a lot and from what I saw did much the same in start in S00 2 - NSW’s game plan back up by superior talent across the park won the day. - The second SOO could have been so much closer. Lok at the influence of Latrell’s intercept for example. That took the wind out of Q’ld’s sails. The freak try saver by Turbo and Too saved another 2 tries - The issue I saw was that of no coherent game plan. At half time Munster spoke up during a Channel 9 interview (Copper Cronk rightly tore him to shreds for saying this in public) that Q’ld were disjointed and that their game plan was not working. This reflects upon the coach and their preparation more than anything - A SOO white wash series is very rare. I believe Queensland have one four such series and NSW 3. Q’ld are likely to lose all 3 this year (fingers crossed lol). That reflects on the cattle they have, not the calibre of their captain. My comments do not even touch his character as I think they are largely irrelevant. Cameron Smith for me was a great influencer who went too far on so many occasions. But Q’ld kept winning so no problem. DCE’s contract kerfuffle with the Titans is nowadays the norm. I don’t think badly of him for that, and Bozo would have done a lot to keep him. So whether you like DC or hate him, I believe his treatment recently is unfair. I believe the hate comes from certain media sections more than the general public, but the general public will blindly follow, particularly Queenslanders, as they look to analyse what is likely to be one of their worst series defeats ever. :silly:

Bit of a mystery the DCE hating - after hardly any thought I think it's two things 1: The hyphenated last name, with Cherry in it, unfairly raised questions about his masculinity 2: His unusual bonce. One of my brothers once described him as having a smack-able head. he's done it tough from the get go.

Here are just some of the player ratings from 2020 Origin series… SOO 1. Daly Cherry-Evans Rating: 8 / Nathan Cleary Rating: 5… SOO 2. Daly Cherry-Evans Rating: 6 / Nathan Cleary Rating: 8… SOO 3 Daly Cherry-Evans Rating: 8 / Nathan Cleary Rating: 6.5… Oh, and your “passenger’ won Man of the Match in game one and ran the most metres for Qld, kicked goals etc…You must not have been “paying attention to what DCE did”…. So clearly, your statements are spurious and at best you’re just another one who dislikes DCE; I’m sure that causes him no end of sleepless nights!

Hi Tim All in all I thought that Cherry-Evans had a great game in the last SOO, the blues ran everything at him all night but he defended like a trojan. He did as good as what he could do with the cattle that he had in the backline, there was no way that Qld could match NSW with the troops available. I actually thought DCE would have been my pick as the best player for Qld on the night

He didn't lead QLD to victory last year the rest of the players did, he just happened to be their captain, he was just as average last year as this year, a passenger benefiting from the rest of the teams hard work. Don't believe me? Have a look at the replays of the 3 SOO games last year, pay attention to what DCE did

I don't think anyone has any doubts about DCE'S talent at club level what most people are pointing out is that at origin level he is very ordinary at best, he just makes up the numbers. He's the Maroon's captain and should be leading the way, instead he looks pedestrian with no influence on the game whatsoever, compare that with how good he is at club level and you think there's two different DCE'S in the NRL.

Obviously a Manly fan.... but this should be written about Parramatta... The reasons for our enmity are clear. At theany ground they are obnoxiously one eyed. Screaming for penalties where there are none vaguely deserved, and then howling with outrage when a blatant offence from one of their boys is punished. They’ll lay into the opposition supporters horribly whenever they are on top, and the BrookvaleEels faithful are the worst winners I’ve witnessed in my 4050 years following the game, and I’ve witnessed both the Bulldogs and Roosters many fans at their ugliest.

Tim, DCE may be the nicest person on the planet, he mows his elderly neighbor's yards, donates big lumps of his pay to charities, and takes toys to kiddies in hospital. Terrific. But none of this is in the slightest relevant to what happens on the field.

Us Manly fans adore DCE, we wouldn't swap him for any other half. It's sad that the rest of the RL community has shunned him, but they're the ones missing out on loving a brilliant player and an even better man.

"...in summary, don’t hate him just don’t rate him at rep level" Yeah, it not as if he lead the second worst QLD side (2021 being the worst) to a series win. Oh, that's right ...he did, didn't he!!!

When it comes to this current (2021) Origin series, you also have to look at another factor as to why Qld are getting rolled. The NSW forwards are completely dominating their Qld counterparts, giving Nathan Cleary and Jerome Luai all the room in the world to work in, while at the same time giving the likes of Tom Trbojevic, James Tedesco and Latrell Mitchell all the room to run, and run rings around the Qld backs they most certainly have. In fact, and its hard to believe, their only blemish in the 2 games so far is that Turbo, yes Tom Trbojevic, missed the tackle on Kurt Capewell that led to Qld's only try of the series in the opening game in Townsville. But the reality is that behind this current Qld pack, even exalted Maroon legends like Wally Lewis, Allan Langer, Darren Lockyer, Johnathan Thurston and Cooper Cronk would have been virtually powerless to stop this current Blues onslaught. DCE has had a very poor series, that can't be denied. But what also can't be denied is that behind a completely dominated forward pack he has still tried his absolute guts out, just with very little to no help from team mates. Certain reporters (including that bald bloke from from Fox League, we know who he is) have trashed DCE's efforts so far while actually giving a free pass to his halves partner Cameron Munster despite that the only two times the Storm pivot has been seen in 160 minutes of football was at halftime in Brisbane when he was interviewed by Lockyer for Ch.9, and when he slid knees first into James Tedesco. Otherwise he has literally been MIA the entire series. The reality is that this is a young crop of Blues who have NSW where Qld were back in 2006-07, on the verge of a dynasty, while Qld is now going through a period where very few of them would actually get a jumper if they were from NSW. Yes that's right, at the moment there are a number of Maroons who are benefitting from the fact that Qld has a smaller talent pool to choose from, because they wouldn't get picked if they weren't from our north eastern state. And that is the hand DCE as halfback and captain of Qld has currently been handed. He's on a hiding to nothing with this current side.

If Qlders are genuinely blaming DCE for their origin performance, they are going to struggle to replace him with a better option for game 3. He shouldn’t be immune to criticism, but Qld were a rabble across the park. I can’t think of one player who got the better of their opposite number.

DCE is good in his own territory and middle of the field however frozes in Opposition 10-20meters therefore most time kills the ball. Can't you all see??

Yes I am a Manly fan - to blame the division of a premiership winning squad on him is a bit ridiculous. That was mostly Des's back ended contracts. Like I said - clubs won't hesitate to shaft players when it's in their interests. I have no problem with any player extracting every single cent out of their careers that they can.

'Cherry Evans' doesn't really have a toff ring to it like 'Huntington Smythe' or something like that though

Would've just been another Pearce - copping all the blame for getting smashed behind a beaten pack and dropped and reinstated periodically.

"4 Pines Park" Tim? What an awful name. People talk about the dilapidated state of the ground now. But Brookvale was hardly an attractive place when I first saw a game there in the late 1970s. It was a cow paddock even then. And yet Manly was a key club in the administrative environment in the 20 years that followed. What happened?

Gday Tim, hate is such a strong word . I wouldn't say i hate DCE but i have little respect for a bloke whose word is worthless and i do hate it when he gets selected for QLD, because for me he isn't up to rep footy standard. Really good club footballer but average at best rep player . He doesn't seem to have a problem directing his forwards at manly like a good half is supposed to but seems to be conspicuously absent when it comes to rep teams . This years QLD team has lacked any sort of direction,structure and appears to have no coherent game plan(in fairness, something that seems,to be a common trait of teams coached by Green ) . One out rucks with no decoys ,multiple players in motion or even simple second man plays shows that there's no direction and no structure to the foundations that the forwards should be laying. This is something that i expect the half to take control of, especially if your half is also captain . The best example of this is the terrible use of Fafita . One of the most promising young edge running forward in the game has been used more as a middle bash forward. Having said all that ,In defense of DCE, having so many first pick players out especially Harry Grant and his ability to get good yards and quick play the balls to get the blues defense on the back foot makes it hard for DCE to implement any sort of game plan? That,and having Green as coach have done no favors for DCE! Green's a coach who last big idea at the cows was to use Hess as a centre and whose whole game plan at the Cows was the continually use of JT13 as a bash forward! Couldn't even work out the benefits of using him as a decoy runner like a bloke who attracts 3-4 defenders means outside players are unmarked or that it get the defensive line second guessing will he or won't he get the ball. So in summary, don't hate him just don't rate him at rep level